We’re Going to Defend Taiwan?

[Big Bend Texas]

Prove it.

He can't because it never happened.

 

[Mac-7]

Yes NATO dearly wants to and has constantly tried to put nukes on Russia's border.

Thats insane

Russia has nothing that NATO wants

 

[Rigby5]

You are fabricating BS. Anything other than gold will burn if the temperature is high enough. Even the upholstery and stuffing of couches and chairs is flammable and burns very hot because most of it is petroleum.

There were thousands of tons of wood used for furniture, tables, desks, chairs, and cladding walls in many of those offices.

How does that stuff end up in the basement? The fires only burned on a few floors and the entire building collapsed in both cases.

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

Have you ever looked into commercial building codes?
Here are the NYC fire codes, and wooden furniture is not allowed unless fire retardant treated.
Paper has to be in metal file containers.
Etc.

Chapter 8 Interior Furnishings, Decorations and Scenery: Interior Furnishings, Decorations and Scenery, NYC Fire Code 2014 | UpCodes

UpCodes offers a consolidated resource of construction and building code grouped by jurisdiction

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Chapter 8 Interior Furnishings, Decorations and Scenery

Section 801 General

801.1 Scope

This chapter shall govern furnishings, decorative vegetation, decorations and scenery in buildings and structures.

801.2 General

The furnishings, decorative vegetation, decorations and scenery governed by this chapter shall be designed, stored, handled and used in accordance with this chapter.

801.3 Flame-Retardant Treatments

When a material or item is treated with a flame-retardant chemical to meet the requirements of this chapter for a flame-resistant material, such chemical and its method of application shall be approved. Flame-retardant treatments shall be maintained so as to retain the effectiveness of the treatment under conditions encountered in actual use.

801.4 Fire-Retardant Coating

When a material or item is coated with a fire-retardant coating to meet the requirements of this chapter for a flame-resistant material, such coating and its method of application shall be approved. Flame-retardant coatings shall be maintained so as to retain the effectiveness of the coating under conditions encountered in actual use.

801.5 Prohibited Decorative Vegetation, Decorations and Scenery

It shall be unlawful in Group A, E and I occupancies to store or use decorative vegetation, decorations or scenery that consists of or is coated with pyroxylin or similarly hazardous base.
...}

 

[Rigby5]

No they aren't, they become wicks when soaked with fuel and again, with enough heat everything but gold will burn.

Wrong.
Nothing flammable is legal in high rise buildings in NYC.

 

[Rigby5]

Thats insane

Russia has nothing that NATO wants

Russia has lots of oil, and NATO has always attacked anyone they could with oil.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Have you ever looked into commercial building codes?
Here are the NYC fire codes, and wooden furniture is not allowed unless fire retardant treated.
Paper has to be in metal file containers.
Etc.

Chapter 8 Interior Furnishings, Decorations and Scenery: Interior Furnishings, Decorations and Scenery, NYC Fire Code 2014 | UpCodes

UpCodes offers a consolidated resource of construction and building code grouped by jurisdiction

up.codes

{...
Chapter 8 Interior Furnishings, Decorations and Scenery

Section 801 General

801.1 Scope

This chapter shall govern furnishings, decorative vegetation, decorations and scenery in buildings and structures.

801.2 General

The furnishings, decorative vegetation, decorations and scenery governed by this chapter shall be designed, stored, handled and used in accordance with this chapter.

801.3 Flame-Retardant Treatments

When a material or item is treated with a flame-retardant chemical to meet the requirements of this chapter for a flame-resistant material, such chemical and its method of application shall be approved. Flame-retardant treatments shall be maintained so as to retain the effectiveness of the treatment under conditions encountered in actual use.

801.4 Fire-Retardant Coating

When a material or item is coated with a fire-retardant coating to meet the requirements of this chapter for a flame-resistant material, such coating and its method of application shall be approved. Flame-retardant coatings shall be maintained so as to retain the effectiveness of the coating under conditions encountered in actual use.

801.5 Prohibited Decorative Vegetation, Decorations and Scenery

It shall be unlawful in Group A, E and I occupancies to store or use decorative vegetation, decorations or scenery that consists of or is coated with pyroxylin or similarly hazardous base.
...}

Retardants do not fireproof anything, the slow burn rates and raise ignition rates and those codes were all revised post 9-11.

The Twin Towers didn't even have sprinkler systems because their construction predated mandatory sprinkler systems.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Russia has lots of oil, and NATO has always attacked anyone they could with oil.

You're just lying again. Stop.

NATO has never launched a war of conquest period much less for oil, stop lying.

 

[Mac-7]

Russia has lots of oil, and NATO has always attacked anyone they could with oil.

Thats delusional

 

[Dayton3]

Russia has lots of oil, and NATO has always attacked anyone they could with oil.

Meaningless as NATO has attacked very few nations.

In fact, NATOs first military operation was against Serbia which I'm pretty sure had no or negligible oil

 

[Rigby5]

Retardants do not fireproof anything, the slow burn rates and raise ignition rates and those codes were all revised post 9-11.

The Twin Towers didn't even have sprinkler systems because their construction predated mandatory sprinkler systems.

Yes retardants do fireproof. And no, all multi story buildings in all cities have always had similar fire codes.
The only question is how well they were observed?
The Twin Towers had sprinklers and they were mandatory since the late 1800s.
{...
Check your local fire codes to understand the fire sprinkler system requirements. When did Fire Sprinklers Become Mandatory? The backbone of fire sprinkler regulations that are now known as NFPA 13 goes back to the late 1800s when a group of professionals gathered to discuss fire in New York City.
...}
The system was just taken out by the crash.

 

[Rigby5]

You're just lying again. Stop.

NATO has never launched a war of conquest period much less for oil, stop lying.

Oh, so then why did so many NATO nations attack Saddam, Qaddafi, etc.?
If I remember right, Clinton even had NATO allies in Somalia.
Our NATO allies were even in Vietnam, one of the most evil wars in history.

 

[Rigby5]

Meaningless as NATO has attacked very few nations.

In fact, NATOs first military operation was against Serbia which I'm pretty sure had no or negligible oil

So you don't think that maybe NATO attacked Serbia in order to appease some Islamic nations who had oil?

 

[Dayton3]

So you don't think that maybe NATO attacked Serbia in order to appease some Islamic nations who had oil?

Don't be ridiculous.

Muslims have proven notoriously ungrafetful.

 

[gipper]

I loathe Joe Biden. Dont' know why you are babbling such idiocy. .

Yet you support his crazed warmongering. Like many cons you’re terribly confused. Even your beloved fat orange man wants peace, but not you.

This from a smart con…
During some of the coldest days of the Cold War, U.S. presidents like Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan sought to find common ground on which to stand with Russia to avoid conflict.

Ike invited the "Butcher of Budapest," Nikita Khrushchev, for a 12-day U.S. visit in 1959. Nixon initiated a "detente" with Leonid Brezhnev, who had ordered the Warsaw Pact to crush the "Prague Spring" in 1968. Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev negotiated the dismantling of an entire class of nuclear weapons in the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty.

Given the hostility Putin has generated by his invasion of Ukraine, Western leaders may be unable to bring Russia in from the cold. But if we isolate Russia, push it out of the West, Moscow has only one direction in which to go — east, to China.

In 230 years, the United States has never gone to war with Russia. Not with the Romanovs nor with the Stalinists, not with the Cold War Communists nor with the Putinists.

U.S. vital interests dictate that we maintain that tradition.
Quo Vadis, Mother Russia?

 

[gipper]

Ukraine did not put NATO nukes in its territory

As for your other complaints there are international courts for that

Once they joined NATO, nothing stops them from putting nukes on their border with Russia. Don’t you think Putin considered this?

 

[gipper]

Dayton3 Mac-7
Neocon boys can answer this question please?

Are those 22 R congresspersons who voted against Joe’s massive gift to the war machine and escalation of war RINOs?

 

[Mac-7]

Once they joined NATO, nothing stops them from putting nukes on their border with Russia. Don’t you think Putin considered this?

Once they joined NATO, nothing stops them from putting nukes on their border with Russia. Don’t you think Putin considered this?

I think you are throwing crap against the wall to see if anything sticks

 

[Mac-7]

Dayton3 Mac-7
Neocon boys can answer this question please?

Are those 22 R congresspersons who voted against Joe’s massive gift to the war machine and escalation of war RINOs?

See post #377

 

[gipper]

I think you are throwing crap against the wall to see if anything sticks

Logic seems like that to baby killing neocons.

 

[Mac-7]

Logic seems like that to baby killing neocons.

There is no logic to your crazy babbling