Welp fellas/ladies, the writting is on the wall and even Trump is seeing it.

[hunarcy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-2024-rematch/2020/11/21/58ce87ac-2a8d-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

Time to chin up and formulate a plan to win the midterms and 2024.

All the teeth gnashing in the world won't solve anything except make you look as foolish as the left did after Trump took office.

1. Urban outreach
2. Term limits
3. Election reforms
4. Immigration reforms
5. A REAL plan to deal with the illegals living here now
6. College & Student Loan regulations/reforms
7. National vocational program
8. Social media stripped of their government protections or plans to label them protected speech public squares.

Plenty of ideas to work on and create REAL roadmaps to achieve. Granted without the House and presidency these are likely DOA right now BUT that doesn't eliminate us from the responsibility of both trying and laying out a plan for future implementation.

Stomping our feet solves nothing and real problems require work.

The left didn't do what Trumpers did.

I agree. They didn't act like adults at all. They put on their pussy hats and VOWED to RESIST. They made up lies about Russia. They convinced each other that the only choice was to HATE. They focused so much on their hate that they didn't even notice that MORE people voted for Biden than voted for the very popular Obama. However, shouldn't that make us wonder...?

 

[XponentialChaos]

I do. What exactly is your point?

You said reality scares Trump supporters, I was just pointing out you're no different, that's all. Carry on.

Not sure what this has to do with accepting the reality that Trump lost.

 

[basquebromance]

He lost the white male vote!!!! It’s not the machines! It’s idiot-boy Jared.

 

[Toro]

A SERIOUS vocational plan.
There is no reason to push every high-school child towards a traditional college when EVERYONE knows not every child needs or is capable of going to or finishing college.

I agree with this.

And a marketing plan to raise the status of the trades.

There's too many college educated people who look down on people without a college education.

In Germany, tradespeople are seen as professional. That should happen here.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is a lie – there was no ‘cheating.’

This is a lie. It was massive.

There was no ‘cheating’ anyone who claims otherwise is a liar.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is a lie – there was no ‘cheating.’

Dems are trying to pull off the biggest election fraud in history

Another lie.

At least conservatives are consistent at being dishonest.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

A SERIOUS vocational plan.
There is no reason to push every high-school child towards a traditional college when EVERYONE knows not every child needs or is capable of going to or finishing college.

I agree with this.

And a marketing plan to raise the status of the trades.

There's too many college educated people who look down on people without a college education.

In Germany, tradespeople are seen as professional. That should happen here.

There are several "trades" that pay more than many college grads make. And without all the massive debt!

Nothing wrong with physical or specialized labor jobs.

Hard work is gratifying and can help build character. Yours truly withstanding of course...

 

[DukeU]

What do you mean how so?? A law restricts gay people from getting married, that’s your position. A law sets regulations around voting like voter ID. Those are regulations. Those are what conservatives promote. I understand you have reasons for them, but that doesn’t take away the fact that you are calling for state regulations over Liberty, individual rights and personal responsibility

Marriage and individual rights are two different things. Marriage rights never restricted anyone from getting married. Marriage use to have a distinct definition, it no longer does.

Voting laws protect against fraud, supposedly, If you are a citizen of this country who has no restrictions placed on yourself from crime, etc. you have a right to vote. Do you not think voter ID is a good idea? How about ID to board a plane, drive a car, buy alcohol?

 

[DukeU]

There was no ‘cheating’ anyone who claims otherwise is a liar.

Liar.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

We need to use this theft of a presidential election to push for election reform in America....and Trump needs to go after the thieves even after he is forced out by them.....never stop....

So very true.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Well, maybe conservatives can find their footing and offer some fresh ideas

They're are no good fresh ideas. We live in the greatest, most free, most diverse, country on earth due to the "old" ideas of the Constitution. Liberty, Individual rights, freedom, property rights, etc. These are the greatest ideas man has ever come up with.

There are no "fresh ideas" that haven't been tried, they have all failed.

Well spoken,this would be the greatest country to live in if the constitution was actually followed by politicians but the reality is the constitution has not existed for decades now.it has been spat on and burned by by both parties for decades now with our politicians never held accountable for their actions,it’s sick how the American people let this happen.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

This is a lie – there was no ‘cheating.’

This is a lie. It was massive.

 

[Orangecat]

Well, maybe conservatives can find their footing and offer some fresh ideas (not just the same old recycled garbage).

Like socialism? That was a fresh idea 200+ years ago.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What do you mean how so?? A law restricts gay people from getting married, that’s your position. A law sets regulations around voting like voter ID. Those are regulations. Those are what conservatives promote. I understand you have reasons for them, but that doesn’t take away the fact that you are calling for state regulations over Liberty, individual rights and personal responsibility

Marriage and individual rights are two different things. Marriage rights never restricted anyone from getting married. Marriage use to have a distinct definition, it no longer does.

Voting laws protect against fraud, supposedly, If you are a citizen of this country who has no restrictions placed on yourself from crime, etc. you have a right to vote. Do you not think voter ID is a good idea? How about ID to board a plane, drive a car, buy alcohol?

Wrong.

The 14th Amendment affords residents of the states the right to due process and equal protection of the law. To deny same-sex couples access to marriage law they’re eligible to participate in violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment (see, Obergefell v. Hodges (2015)).

Photo ID laws are an unwarranted, needless restriction on the right to vote – particularly with regard to ‘fraud,’ which is virtually non-existent.

Because ‘fraud’ through identity theft is so exceeding rare, voter ID laws constitute government overreach and excess.

The Myth of Voter Fraud

Extensive research reveals that fraud is very rare. Yet repeated, false allegations of fraud can make it harder for millions of eligible Americans to participate in elections.

www.brennancenter.org

Seeking to deny same-sex couples access to marriage law, compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law, and violating the voting rights of citizens are all examples of conservative authoritarianism, of the right’s advocacy of more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty, and of conservatives’ desire to compel conformity and silence dissent.

 

[DukeU]

Gotta call it like I see it, sad to say.

 

[DukeU]

Like socialism? That was a fresh idea 200+ years ago.

And the democrats prove over and over what a terrible idea it is. People are leaving their utopias in droves.

 

[Billiejeens]

False

Third Circuit Court of appeals

Case # 20-3371


Appellant's amended motion for emergency expedited review is granted at the direction of the court.

Step 1.

The third circuit just rejected Trumps claims.

Step 2

 

[Circe]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-2024-rematch/2020/11/21/58ce87ac-2a8d-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html

Time to chin up and formulate a plan to win the midterms and 2024.

All the teeth gnashing in the world won't solve anything except make you look as foolish as the left did after Trump took office.

1. Urban outreach
2. Term limits
3. Election reforms
4. Immigration reforms
5. A REAL plan to deal with the illegals living here now
6. College & Student Loan regulations/reforms
7. National vocational program
8. Social media stripped of their government protections or plans to label them protected speech public squares.

Plenty of ideas to work on and create REAL roadmaps to achieve. Granted without the House and presidency these are likely DOA right now BUT that doesn't eliminate us from the responsibility of both trying and laying out a plan for future implementation.

Stomping our feet solves nothing and real problems require work.

You do that ----- we'll just wait you out and then undo it all.

I think it's good Trump worked so hard to fight the vote fraud --- it will be educational for the people wanting to cheat the next time. They may fear people looking very hard at the voting to make sure it's honest. Appeasement always, always results in an increase in the bad behavior.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Time to chin up and formulate a plan to win the midterms and 2024.

Those of us who aren't crazy knew this on November 4th.

 

[DukeU]

Photo ID laws are an unwarranted, needless restriction on the right to vote – particularly with regard to ‘fraud,’ which is virtually non-existent.

Great, let's get rid of photo IDs period. If it's unwarranted to vote, it's unwarranted everywhere.

Seeking to deny same-sex couples access to marriage law, compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law, and violating the voting rights of citizens are all examples of conservative authoritarianism, of the right’s advocacy of more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty, and of conservatives’ desire to compel conformity and silence dissent.

But, you have no problem forcing someone who don't agree with same sex marriage to marry them right?!?