We'll take the Bedouins in exchange for every Jew to leave the US

[Phoenall]

UN officials urge Israel to halt Bedouin transfer plans

In a joint press release Wednesday, the Humanitarian Coordinator for the occupied Palestinian territory, James W. Rawley, and the Director of UNRWA Operations West Bank, Felipe Sanchez, expressed their "grave concern" about the proposed expulsions.

According to Rawley, "Israeli practices in Area C, including a marked increase of demolitions and confiscations of donor-funded structures in the first quarter of 2015, have compounded an already untenable situation for Bedouin communities."

46 Palestinian Bedouin communities – some 7,000 people – are slated for transfer to three proposed "relocation" sites. In March, the UN Secretary-General expressed concern that the plans "may also be connected with settlement expansion", and noted that "forcible transfer" is "a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention."

The UN agencies contextualise the threatened expulsions with a "backdrop of a discriminatory zoning and planning regime that facilitates the development of illegal Israeli settlements at the expense of Palestinians, for whom it is almost impossible to obtain permits for construction."

HRW denounces Israel expulsion of Bedouins Palestinians - Yahoo News "In the West Bank, Israeli authorities approved less than six percent of Palestinian building permit requests between 2000 and 2012, HRW said."

Demolition and Eviction of Bedouin Citizens of Israel in the Naqab Negev - The Prawer Plan - Adalah

Arab Bedouin citizens of Israel, inhabitants of the Naqab (Negev) desert since the seventh century, are the most vulnerable community in Israel. For over 60 years, the indigenous Arab Bedouin have faced a State policy of displacement, home demolitions and dispossession of their ancestral land. Today, 70,000 Arab Bedouin citizens live in 35 villages that, which either predate the establishment of the State in 1948, or were created by Israeli military order in the early 1950s. The State of Israel considers the villages “unrecognized” and the inhabitants “trespassers on State land,” so it denies these citizens access to State infrastructure like water, electricity, sewage, education, health care and roads. The State deliberately withholds basic services from these villages to “encourage” the Arab Bedouin citizens to give up their ancestral land.

Nothing to do with the UN until they force the arab muslims to stop murdering innocents

HRW is a proven ANTI_SEMITIC organisation, so their reports should be ignored.

 

[Phoenall]

Another article with another point of view:

http://www.newsweek.com/israels-desert-ghetto-243674

Roughly 63 percent of those previously "unrecognized" villages would receive official status under the plan. Over the next five years the central government would spend more than $300 million to provide those communities for the first time with schools, medical centers, paved streets and public utilities. The 37 percent would become state land, the homes marked for demolition and their inhabitants relocated to authorized villages. All those who agreed would receive compensation of up to $25,000 for their former dwelling places and as much as $12,500 for moving.

On top of that, the bill would help dispossessed Bedouin get payment for land that has been seized by the government. Currently more than 13,000 Negev land claims are pending. The bill's supporters contend that it will bring order to the desert, clean up the fetid shantytowns, and bring better lives to the Bedouin. "We cannot supply services to every unauthorized cluster in the desert," says Yossi Maymon of the government's Authority for the Regulating of Bedouin Settlements in the Negev. Every land claim would be settled automatically for half the stated price, no questions asked.

...

More than 40 years ago the warrior-politician Moshe Dayan laid out his vision for the Negev's inhabitants. "We must turn the Bedouin into urban laborers," he urged. "It means that the Bedouin will no longer live on his land with his flocks but will become an urbanite who comes home in the afternoon and puts his slippers on. His children will get used to a father who wears pants, without a dagger, and who does not pick out their nits in public. They will go to school, their hair combed and parted. This will be a revolution, but it can be achieved in two generations. Not by coercion but with direction from the state. This reality that is known as the Bedouin will disappear."

But all these decades later, the Bedouin still refuse to be obliterated. Marouf Saleh is one of the 1,500 or so inhabitants of Al Sir, an unrecognized shantytown within sight of Beer Sheva's skyline. The government's plan is to move Al Sir's people just a few miles away, to a town where Saleh's children already attend school and receive medical care. He glances around at the squalid corrugated-metal shacks of Al Sir. "We don't want to live like this," he says. "We want to build proper kinds of buildings on this land. But I would sleep outside just to keep this land. We're not leaving."

Not so simple a problem. I can understand the difficulty with providing infrastructure to every little community and shanty town. But I also understand the feeling of dispossession and loss of tribal lands these Beduoin must feel. And in the particular case of the OP - it's not a question of infrastructure. They will be moving a new group of people in after they force the Bedouin out. That just isn't right.

You do realise that they are nomads and have no tribal lands, all they have is their camels, donkeys, sheep and goats that eat the vegetation until they break down their tents and move to the next stopping of point.

 

[Coyote]

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Because that land was earmarked for something else, and that is when the Bedouins started to build permanent structures. It is all part of the arab muslim game to demonise the Jews by false information and propaganda. They stopped at that place every time they crossed that part of the Negev, so they altered that to say they had lived there for 50 years. It is not all as cut and dried as you make it out, and they were never legal..

Why don't you look for the information from unbiased sources and let me know, I don't have the time to trawl the internet at the moment due to hospital/doctor/clinic appointments due to deteriorating health.

You seem to be missing the point. The Israeli Army settled them in Umm al-Hiran since the 1950's. They've been there over 50 years. Now, suddenly, the same people who settled them there say it's "illegal" and they have to go so a new batch of people can move in.

I don't think you are the person to be lecturing everyone on unbiased sources, and while I'm sorry to hear about your health situation, you have certainly been spending a lot of time on the internet. Perhaps you don't have any sources - unbiased sources - to support your own claims here.

 

[Coyote]

UN officials urge Israel to halt Bedouin transfer plans

In a joint press release Wednesday, the Humanitarian Coordinator for the occupied Palestinian territory, James W. Rawley, and the Director of UNRWA Operations West Bank, Felipe Sanchez, expressed their "grave concern" about the proposed expulsions.

According to Rawley, "Israeli practices in Area C, including a marked increase of demolitions and confiscations of donor-funded structures in the first quarter of 2015, have compounded an already untenable situation for Bedouin communities."

46 Palestinian Bedouin communities – some 7,000 people – are slated for transfer to three proposed "relocation" sites. In March, the UN Secretary-General expressed concern that the plans "may also be connected with settlement expansion", and noted that "forcible transfer" is "a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention."

The UN agencies contextualise the threatened expulsions with a "backdrop of a discriminatory zoning and planning regime that facilitates the development of illegal Israeli settlements at the expense of Palestinians, for whom it is almost impossible to obtain permits for construction."

HRW denounces Israel expulsion of Bedouins Palestinians - Yahoo News "In the West Bank, Israeli authorities approved less than six percent of Palestinian building permit requests between 2000 and 2012, HRW said."

Demolition and Eviction of Bedouin Citizens of Israel in the Naqab Negev - The Prawer Plan - Adalah

Arab Bedouin citizens of Israel, inhabitants of the Naqab (Negev) desert since the seventh century, are the most vulnerable community in Israel. For over 60 years, the indigenous Arab Bedouin have faced a State policy of displacement, home demolitions and dispossession of their ancestral land. Today, 70,000 Arab Bedouin citizens live in 35 villages that, which either predate the establishment of the State in 1948, or were created by Israeli military order in the early 1950s. The State of Israel considers the villages “unrecognized” and the inhabitants “trespassers on State land,” so it denies these citizens access to State infrastructure like water, electricity, sewage, education, health care and roads. The State deliberately withholds basic services from these villages to “encourage” the Arab Bedouin citizens to give up their ancestral land.

Nothing to do with the UN until they force the arab muslims to stop murdering innocents

HRW is a proven ANTI_SEMITIC organisation, so their reports should be ignored.

Where is the proof they are "anti semitic"?

 

[Coyote]

Another article with another point of view:

http://www.newsweek.com/israels-desert-ghetto-243674

Roughly 63 percent of those previously "unrecognized" villages would receive official status under the plan. Over the next five years the central government would spend more than $300 million to provide those communities for the first time with schools, medical centers, paved streets and public utilities. The 37 percent would become state land, the homes marked for demolition and their inhabitants relocated to authorized villages. All those who agreed would receive compensation of up to $25,000 for their former dwelling places and as much as $12,500 for moving.

On top of that, the bill would help dispossessed Bedouin get payment for land that has been seized by the government. Currently more than 13,000 Negev land claims are pending. The bill's supporters contend that it will bring order to the desert, clean up the fetid shantytowns, and bring better lives to the Bedouin. "We cannot supply services to every unauthorized cluster in the desert," says Yossi Maymon of the government's Authority for the Regulating of Bedouin Settlements in the Negev. Every land claim would be settled automatically for half the stated price, no questions asked.

...

More than 40 years ago the warrior-politician Moshe Dayan laid out his vision for the Negev's inhabitants. "We must turn the Bedouin into urban laborers," he urged. "It means that the Bedouin will no longer live on his land with his flocks but will become an urbanite who comes home in the afternoon and puts his slippers on. His children will get used to a father who wears pants, without a dagger, and who does not pick out their nits in public. They will go to school, their hair combed and parted. This will be a revolution, but it can be achieved in two generations. Not by coercion but with direction from the state. This reality that is known as the Bedouin will disappear."

But all these decades later, the Bedouin still refuse to be obliterated. Marouf Saleh is one of the 1,500 or so inhabitants of Al Sir, an unrecognized shantytown within sight of Beer Sheva's skyline. The government's plan is to move Al Sir's people just a few miles away, to a town where Saleh's children already attend school and receive medical care. He glances around at the squalid corrugated-metal shacks of Al Sir. "We don't want to live like this," he says. "We want to build proper kinds of buildings on this land. But I would sleep outside just to keep this land. We're not leaving."

Not so simple a problem. I can understand the difficulty with providing infrastructure to every little community and shanty town. But I also understand the feeling of dispossession and loss of tribal lands these Beduoin must feel. And in the particular case of the OP - it's not a question of infrastructure. They will be moving a new group of people in after they force the Bedouin out. That just isn't right.

You do realise that they are nomads and have no tribal lands, all they have is their camels, donkeys, sheep and goats that eat the vegetation until they break down their tents and move to the next stopping of point.

Nomad's have tribal lands. They have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern.

 

[Uncensored2008]

By saying that, you're being the very racist you say you hate.

Let's keep the Jews and get rid of such human garbage as the kkk, white supremacists, aryan nation.

Puddly you moron, she hates JOOOOOOOZ, not racists, She loves piles of shit like Guano and you. She is all for all Arab states like SA, Jordan, Syria, Kuwait, et al. But she hate JOOOOZZZZ..

She is a typical democrat, in other words.

 

[Phoenall]

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Because that land was earmarked for something else, and that is when the Bedouins started to build permanent structures. It is all part of the arab muslim game to demonise the Jews by false information and propaganda. They stopped at that place every time they crossed that part of the Negev, so they altered that to say they had lived there for 50 years. It is not all as cut and dried as you make it out, and they were never legal..

Why don't you look for the information from unbiased sources and let me know, I don't have the time to trawl the internet at the moment due to hospital/doctor/clinic appointments due to deteriorating health.

You seem to be missing the point. The Israeli Army settled them in Umm al-Hiran since the 1950's. They've been there over 50 years. Now, suddenly, the same people who settled them there say it's "illegal" and they have to go so a new batch of people can move in.

I don't think you are the person to be lecturing everyone on unbiased sources, and while I'm sorry to hear about your health situation, you have certainly been spending a lot of time on the internet. Perhaps you don't have any sources - unbiased sources - to support your own claims here.

According to who ?

 

[Phoenall]

UN officials urge Israel to halt Bedouin transfer plans

In a joint press release Wednesday, the Humanitarian Coordinator for the occupied Palestinian territory, James W. Rawley, and the Director of UNRWA Operations West Bank, Felipe Sanchez, expressed their "grave concern" about the proposed expulsions.

According to Rawley, "Israeli practices in Area C, including a marked increase of demolitions and confiscations of donor-funded structures in the first quarter of 2015, have compounded an already untenable situation for Bedouin communities."

46 Palestinian Bedouin communities – some 7,000 people – are slated for transfer to three proposed "relocation" sites. In March, the UN Secretary-General expressed concern that the plans "may also be connected with settlement expansion", and noted that "forcible transfer" is "a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention."

The UN agencies contextualise the threatened expulsions with a "backdrop of a discriminatory zoning and planning regime that facilitates the development of illegal Israeli settlements at the expense of Palestinians, for whom it is almost impossible to obtain permits for construction."

HRW denounces Israel expulsion of Bedouins Palestinians - Yahoo News "In the West Bank, Israeli authorities approved less than six percent of Palestinian building permit requests between 2000 and 2012, HRW said."

Demolition and Eviction of Bedouin Citizens of Israel in the Naqab Negev - The Prawer Plan - Adalah

Arab Bedouin citizens of Israel, inhabitants of the Naqab (Negev) desert since the seventh century, are the most vulnerable community in Israel. For over 60 years, the indigenous Arab Bedouin have faced a State policy of displacement, home demolitions and dispossession of their ancestral land. Today, 70,000 Arab Bedouin citizens live in 35 villages that, which either predate the establishment of the State in 1948, or were created by Israeli military order in the early 1950s. The State of Israel considers the villages “unrecognized” and the inhabitants “trespassers on State land,” so it denies these citizens access to State infrastructure like water, electricity, sewage, education, health care and roads. The State deliberately withholds basic services from these villages to “encourage” the Arab Bedouin citizens to give up their ancestral land.

Nothing to do with the UN until they force the arab muslims to stop murdering innocents

HRW is a proven ANTI_SEMITIC organisation, so their reports should be ignored.

Where is the proof they are "anti semitic"?

Criticism of Human Rights Watch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


HRW has been accused of bias against Israeland having an anti-Israeli agenda)[ by general-circulation newspapers, the Israeli government and supporters of Israel Political science professor and former consultant to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs Gerald M. Steinberg of Bar Ilan University, head of NGO Monitor (a pro-Israel NGO),[42] accused HRW of having "a strong anti-Israel bias from the beginning".[43] According to Steinberg, the organization's reports were based primarily on "Palestinian eyewitness testimony": testimony that is "not accurate, objective or credible but serves the political goal of indicting Israel".[44] In a Wall Street Journal opinion piece, law professor David Bernstein called HRW "maniacally anti-Israel".[45][46] Spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu Mark Regev said: "We discovered during the Gaza operation and the Second Lebanon War that these organizations come in with a very strong agenda, and because they claim to have some kind of halo around them, they receive a status that they don't deserve," referring to HRW and Amnesty International allegations of human-rights violations by Israeli forces during those conflicts.[47]

The organization has also been accused of ignoring anti-Semitism or being anti-Semitic itself. In a 2005 speech to the Anti-Defamation League former Spanish Foreign Minister Ana Palacio said, "NGOs like Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International pay little attention to anti-Semitism."[48] The ADL has also suggested that criticism of Israel may be motivated by anti-Semitism.[49] In The New York Sun, ADL national director Abraham Foxman criticized Roth's use of "a classic anti-Semitic stereotype about Jews".[

 

[Phoenall]

Another article with another point of view:

http://www.newsweek.com/israels-desert-ghetto-243674

Roughly 63 percent of those previously "unrecognized" villages would receive official status under the plan. Over the next five years the central government would spend more than $300 million to provide those communities for the first time with schools, medical centers, paved streets and public utilities. The 37 percent would become state land, the homes marked for demolition and their inhabitants relocated to authorized villages. All those who agreed would receive compensation of up to $25,000 for their former dwelling places and as much as $12,500 for moving.

On top of that, the bill would help dispossessed Bedouin get payment for land that has been seized by the government. Currently more than 13,000 Negev land claims are pending. The bill's supporters contend that it will bring order to the desert, clean up the fetid shantytowns, and bring better lives to the Bedouin. "We cannot supply services to every unauthorized cluster in the desert," says Yossi Maymon of the government's Authority for the Regulating of Bedouin Settlements in the Negev. Every land claim would be settled automatically for half the stated price, no questions asked.

...

More than 40 years ago the warrior-politician Moshe Dayan laid out his vision for the Negev's inhabitants. "We must turn the Bedouin into urban laborers," he urged. "It means that the Bedouin will no longer live on his land with his flocks but will become an urbanite who comes home in the afternoon and puts his slippers on. His children will get used to a father who wears pants, without a dagger, and who does not pick out their nits in public. They will go to school, their hair combed and parted. This will be a revolution, but it can be achieved in two generations. Not by coercion but with direction from the state. This reality that is known as the Bedouin will disappear."

But all these decades later, the Bedouin still refuse to be obliterated. Marouf Saleh is one of the 1,500 or so inhabitants of Al Sir, an unrecognized shantytown within sight of Beer Sheva's skyline. The government's plan is to move Al Sir's people just a few miles away, to a town where Saleh's children already attend school and receive medical care. He glances around at the squalid corrugated-metal shacks of Al Sir. "We don't want to live like this," he says. "We want to build proper kinds of buildings on this land. But I would sleep outside just to keep this land. We're not leaving."

Not so simple a problem. I can understand the difficulty with providing infrastructure to every little community and shanty town. But I also understand the feeling of dispossession and loss of tribal lands these Beduoin must feel. And in the particular case of the OP - it's not a question of infrastructure. They will be moving a new group of people in after they force the Bedouin out. That just isn't right.

You do realise that they are nomads and have no tribal lands, all they have is their camels, donkeys, sheep and goats that eat the vegetation until they break down their tents and move to the next stopping of point.

Nomad's have tribal lands. They have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern.

Tramps and Gypsies have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern, but they don't have any tribal lands. Unless you can call their homes they return to tribal lands. It is arab muslim propaganda to elicit a response in their favour, and it looks like it is working. Even the nomads say they don't want to live in squalor and deprivation, but at the same time don't want to leave because they are a thorn in Israel's side. Their village was built illegally and they are being asked to move a short distance still in the area they were allowed to set up camp. They are refusing to move and using non existent rules to hoodwink the gullible

 

[Toro]

Or the Arabs can all move to Jordan and Egypt.

No all the Jews leave the US first, we don't need racist people here . Go to your all Jew state.

No.

Jews are awesome.

 

[Lipush]

Hey if they want a pure Jew state , we want an pure American country and you can't have that with racist here, IE: Jews.

I'm trying to figure out if you are serious or not, and I'm having trouble telling. You are claiming that an entire racial group is composed of racists. Do you not see any irony in that?

Actually I was making a sort of "hyperbole", but I want to really point how the hypocrisy of Israel, how racist they are of even the Ethiopian Jews (black and uneducated) to the Orthodox Jews (who many seculars I have read do not even want to live in the same apt building) with them.

If they want a all Jewish state, then let them be another SA, as that is what they are becoming. On a side note I do have a problem as well with all the jew non profits organizations that really only seem to benefit other jews here and around the world.

The only problem with the Bedouins they are poor, not terrorists or anything, just a poor community. Its good In the US we don't bulldoze poor communities for another group of people more suited to our liking. I do find it funny that its for the "religious " jews.

I can't say how this bothers me, along with their continued demolition of Pal homes for their settlements.

This country is our alley, and its hard to believe it is. There are also Jews in the US, the Pam Geller types that cause nothing but trouble. I am not ignorant of how the Israel lobby and Zionist elite control our government either, they can take their money and move to Israel since most have a dual citizenship anyway.

But your claim and racist bullshit here was against American Jews, and you said they should leave in favor of "real" Americans. "pure" Americans. THAT's the most racist thing I've ever heard.

So yeah, you're a total imbecile, a racist one, that is

What is racist is the state of Israel.

I don't know how to even answer that. You have a developed mind of a 3 year old, so why do i even bother with you...

 

[Lipush]

Going back to the OT - there is merit to the compliant. From the NYT article linked to in the OT:

...Mr. Qian and the other members of some 70 Bedouin families are likely to be evicted soon from their homes in the hamlet of Umm al-Hiran, where they have been living since the 1950s. In their place, the Israeli government plans to build a community with nearly the same name, Hiran — but its expected residents will be religious, Zionist Jews.

The government says Umm al-Hiran is on state-owned land that it would like to develop, and it has fought a long legal battle to have the Bedouin families, about 1,000 people, relocated. This month, the Supreme Court ruled in a 2-1 decision that the families would have to leave. The court gave no date for when evictions could begin, and residents intend to appeal the decision.

The Bedouins say they do not want to leave land on which they have been living for more than half a century after being resettled there by the Israeli military. The government has promised compensation in the form of cash and land elsewhere, but the Bedouins say the decision to move them reflects discriminatory policies.

The land is "state-owned". They want to develop it. Ok. Why don't they develop it for the residents currently there? After all - the Israeli military settled them there in the first place. Or, why not develop up it to be a mixed community?

The policy certainly seems not only discriminatory but something from another era - like the way we used to "re-locate" Native Americans when we decided we wanted their land or decided their "reservation" was suddenly needed for white Christian expansion so we'd move them to yet another reservation (usually crappier).

For advocates of the future Jewish town of Hiran, the evictions are a matter of law and order.

“We are talking about state-owned lands on which people knowingly built on illegally,” said Liad Aviel, a government spokesman on Bedouins. “These people who built illegally on land that belongs to the state need to get off this land.”

But he added: “The court is very humane. They will not be kicked out of their homes without them having a solution.”

How is it "illegal" when the Israeli Military itself settled them there?

But supporters of the Bedouins view moving as acquiescence to a racist policy. The residents of Umm al-Hiran also say that the land the government has offered them in nearby Houra is already crowded and unsuitable for resettlement.

“This is a fight over our existence,” said Talab Abu Arar, a Bedouin member of Israel’s Parliament.

“The Israeli state sings to the world that it is a democratic state of Arabs and Jews,” he said, but “an Arab resident is prevented from his rights, while Jewish residents are given all their rights and more.”

Hassan Jabareen, chief attorney at the Arab legal rights group Adalah, which is representing the village, said that it was the first time the courts had ordered the evacuation of an entire hamlet, and that the reason for doing so — to build a Jewish community — set a dangerous precedent.

It sounds like they are trying to force them into ever more crowded and impoverished "reservations".

Clinton Bailey, an Israeli scholar who has studied the Bedouins for 45 years, said the military had concentrated them into one part of the Negev. Later, when Israel passed an absentee property law in 1953, Bedouins lost the rights to the land they used to live on, which had already been tenuous because most of them did not have deeds, just tribal acknowledgment of their territories, he said.

The Bedouins are the poorest and fastest-growing group in Israel, partly because of large, polygamous families. Some 70,000 Bedouins live in 35 communities that are off Israel’s planning grid, with no running water, power, roads, health care or education.

A $2 billion plan to resolve the Bedouins’ long-contested ownership claims to lands in the Negev was shelved in December 2013. It would have forced thousands of people to relocate, generally to smaller plots of land in government-built towns.

But Umm al-Hiran is unique among the Bedouin communities, its advocates say, because the Supreme Court acknowledged in its May 5 ruling that the residents were not trespassers. The government leased them land there until the 1980s, according to Adalah, the legal group. And Hiran will be built where Umm al-Hiran lies, suggesting that the government could also provide infrastructure for the Bedouins.

Hiran was part of a 2002 government plan to create several Jewish communities in the Negev to populate the sparse region, particularly contentious border areas like Umm al-Hiran, which is just miles from Israel’s de facto border with the West Bank.

The government said Umm al-Hiran’s residents could purchase plots in the future town, but Mr. Qian said they wanted to stay together as a community. He said they had asked to have their community recognized and to have a Jewish community built alongside theirs, but had received no response.

Again. Bedouin are Israeli citizens, yes? They have the same rights?

Do citizens in any normal country have only rights?

 

[Coyote]

Going back to the OT - there is merit to the compliant. From the NYT article linked to in the OT:

...Mr. Qian and the other members of some 70 Bedouin families are likely to be evicted soon from their homes in the hamlet of Umm al-Hiran, where they have been living since the 1950s. In their place, the Israeli government plans to build a community with nearly the same name, Hiran — but its expected residents will be religious, Zionist Jews.

The government says Umm al-Hiran is on state-owned land that it would like to develop, and it has fought a long legal battle to have the Bedouin families, about 1,000 people, relocated. This month, the Supreme Court ruled in a 2-1 decision that the families would have to leave. The court gave no date for when evictions could begin, and residents intend to appeal the decision.

The Bedouins say they do not want to leave land on which they have been living for more than half a century after being resettled there by the Israeli military. The government has promised compensation in the form of cash and land elsewhere, but the Bedouins say the decision to move them reflects discriminatory policies.

The land is "state-owned". They want to develop it. Ok. Why don't they develop it for the residents currently there? After all - the Israeli military settled them there in the first place. Or, why not develop up it to be a mixed community?

The policy certainly seems not only discriminatory but something from another era - like the way we used to "re-locate" Native Americans when we decided we wanted their land or decided their "reservation" was suddenly needed for white Christian expansion so we'd move them to yet another reservation (usually crappier).

For advocates of the future Jewish town of Hiran, the evictions are a matter of law and order.

“We are talking about state-owned lands on which people knowingly built on illegally,” said Liad Aviel, a government spokesman on Bedouins. “These people who built illegally on land that belongs to the state need to get off this land.”

But he added: “The court is very humane. They will not be kicked out of their homes without them having a solution.”

How is it "illegal" when the Israeli Military itself settled them there?

But supporters of the Bedouins view moving as acquiescence to a racist policy. The residents of Umm al-Hiran also say that the land the government has offered them in nearby Houra is already crowded and unsuitable for resettlement.

“This is a fight over our existence,” said Talab Abu Arar, a Bedouin member of Israel’s Parliament.

“The Israeli state sings to the world that it is a democratic state of Arabs and Jews,” he said, but “an Arab resident is prevented from his rights, while Jewish residents are given all their rights and more.”

Hassan Jabareen, chief attorney at the Arab legal rights group Adalah, which is representing the village, said that it was the first time the courts had ordered the evacuation of an entire hamlet, and that the reason for doing so — to build a Jewish community — set a dangerous precedent.

It sounds like they are trying to force them into ever more crowded and impoverished "reservations".

Clinton Bailey, an Israeli scholar who has studied the Bedouins for 45 years, said the military had concentrated them into one part of the Negev. Later, when Israel passed an absentee property law in 1953, Bedouins lost the rights to the land they used to live on, which had already been tenuous because most of them did not have deeds, just tribal acknowledgment of their territories, he said.

The Bedouins are the poorest and fastest-growing group in Israel, partly because of large, polygamous families. Some 70,000 Bedouins live in 35 communities that are off Israel’s planning grid, with no running water, power, roads, health care or education.

A $2 billion plan to resolve the Bedouins’ long-contested ownership claims to lands in the Negev was shelved in December 2013. It would have forced thousands of people to relocate, generally to smaller plots of land in government-built towns.

But Umm al-Hiran is unique among the Bedouin communities, its advocates say, because the Supreme Court acknowledged in its May 5 ruling that the residents were not trespassers. The government leased them land there until the 1980s, according to Adalah, the legal group. And Hiran will be built where Umm al-Hiran lies, suggesting that the government could also provide infrastructure for the Bedouins.

Hiran was part of a 2002 government plan to create several Jewish communities in the Negev to populate the sparse region, particularly contentious border areas like Umm al-Hiran, which is just miles from Israel’s de facto border with the West Bank.

The government said Umm al-Hiran’s residents could purchase plots in the future town, but Mr. Qian said they wanted to stay together as a community. He said they had asked to have their community recognized and to have a Jewish community built alongside theirs, but had received no response.

Again. Bedouin are Israeli citizens, yes? They have the same rights?

Do citizens in any normal country have only rights?

What do you mean?

 

[Coyote]

UN officials urge Israel to halt Bedouin transfer plans

In a joint press release Wednesday, the Humanitarian Coordinator for the occupied Palestinian territory, James W. Rawley, and the Director of UNRWA Operations West Bank, Felipe Sanchez, expressed their "grave concern" about the proposed expulsions.

According to Rawley, "Israeli practices in Area C, including a marked increase of demolitions and confiscations of donor-funded structures in the first quarter of 2015, have compounded an already untenable situation for Bedouin communities."

46 Palestinian Bedouin communities – some 7,000 people – are slated for transfer to three proposed "relocation" sites. In March, the UN Secretary-General expressed concern that the plans "may also be connected with settlement expansion", and noted that "forcible transfer" is "a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention."

The UN agencies contextualise the threatened expulsions with a "backdrop of a discriminatory zoning and planning regime that facilitates the development of illegal Israeli settlements at the expense of Palestinians, for whom it is almost impossible to obtain permits for construction."

HRW denounces Israel expulsion of Bedouins Palestinians - Yahoo News "In the West Bank, Israeli authorities approved less than six percent of Palestinian building permit requests between 2000 and 2012, HRW said."

Demolition and Eviction of Bedouin Citizens of Israel in the Naqab Negev - The Prawer Plan - Adalah

Arab Bedouin citizens of Israel, inhabitants of the Naqab (Negev) desert since the seventh century, are the most vulnerable community in Israel. For over 60 years, the indigenous Arab Bedouin have faced a State policy of displacement, home demolitions and dispossession of their ancestral land. Today, 70,000 Arab Bedouin citizens live in 35 villages that, which either predate the establishment of the State in 1948, or were created by Israeli military order in the early 1950s. The State of Israel considers the villages “unrecognized” and the inhabitants “trespassers on State land,” so it denies these citizens access to State infrastructure like water, electricity, sewage, education, health care and roads. The State deliberately withholds basic services from these villages to “encourage” the Arab Bedouin citizens to give up their ancestral land.

Nothing to do with the UN until they force the arab muslims to stop murdering innocents

HRW is a proven ANTI_SEMITIC organisation, so their reports should be ignored.

Where is the proof they are "anti semitic"?

Criticism of Human Rights Watch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


HRW has been accused of bias against Israeland having an anti-Israeli agenda)[ by general-circulation newspapers, the Israeli government and supporters of Israel Political science professor and former consultant to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs Gerald M. Steinberg of Bar Ilan University, head of NGO Monitor (a pro-Israel NGO),[42] accused HRW of having "a strong anti-Israel bias from the beginning".[43] According to Steinberg, the organization's reports were based primarily on "Palestinian eyewitness testimony": testimony that is "not accurate, objective or credible but serves the political goal of indicting Israel".[44] In a Wall Street Journal opinion piece, law professor David Bernstein called HRW "maniacally anti-Israel".[45][46] Spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu Mark Regev said: "We discovered during the Gaza operation and the Second Lebanon War that these organizations come in with a very strong agenda, and because they claim to have some kind of halo around them, they receive a status that they don't deserve," referring to HRW and Amnesty International allegations of human-rights violations by Israeli forces during those conflicts.[47]

The organization has also been accused of ignoring anti-Semitism or being anti-Semitic itself. In a 2005 speech to the Anti-Defamation League former Spanish Foreign Minister Ana Palacio said, "NGOs like Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International pay little attention to anti-Semitism."[48] The ADL has also suggested that criticism of Israel may be motivated by anti-Semitism.[49] In The New York Sun, ADL national director Abraham Foxman criticized Roth's use of "a classic anti-Semitic stereotype about Jews".[

Being accused of it doesn't mean they are. Afterall, Israel gets accused of apartheid practices.

 

[Coyote]

Another article with another point of view:

http://www.newsweek.com/israels-desert-ghetto-243674

Roughly 63 percent of those previously "unrecognized" villages would receive official status under the plan. Over the next five years the central government would spend more than $300 million to provide those communities for the first time with schools, medical centers, paved streets and public utilities. The 37 percent would become state land, the homes marked for demolition and their inhabitants relocated to authorized villages. All those who agreed would receive compensation of up to $25,000 for their former dwelling places and as much as $12,500 for moving.

On top of that, the bill would help dispossessed Bedouin get payment for land that has been seized by the government. Currently more than 13,000 Negev land claims are pending. The bill's supporters contend that it will bring order to the desert, clean up the fetid shantytowns, and bring better lives to the Bedouin. "We cannot supply services to every unauthorized cluster in the desert," says Yossi Maymon of the government's Authority for the Regulating of Bedouin Settlements in the Negev. Every land claim would be settled automatically for half the stated price, no questions asked.

...

More than 40 years ago the warrior-politician Moshe Dayan laid out his vision for the Negev's inhabitants. "We must turn the Bedouin into urban laborers," he urged. "It means that the Bedouin will no longer live on his land with his flocks but will become an urbanite who comes home in the afternoon and puts his slippers on. His children will get used to a father who wears pants, without a dagger, and who does not pick out their nits in public. They will go to school, their hair combed and parted. This will be a revolution, but it can be achieved in two generations. Not by coercion but with direction from the state. This reality that is known as the Bedouin will disappear."

But all these decades later, the Bedouin still refuse to be obliterated. Marouf Saleh is one of the 1,500 or so inhabitants of Al Sir, an unrecognized shantytown within sight of Beer Sheva's skyline. The government's plan is to move Al Sir's people just a few miles away, to a town where Saleh's children already attend school and receive medical care. He glances around at the squalid corrugated-metal shacks of Al Sir. "We don't want to live like this," he says. "We want to build proper kinds of buildings on this land. But I would sleep outside just to keep this land. We're not leaving."

Not so simple a problem. I can understand the difficulty with providing infrastructure to every little community and shanty town. But I also understand the feeling of dispossession and loss of tribal lands these Beduoin must feel. And in the particular case of the OP - it's not a question of infrastructure. They will be moving a new group of people in after they force the Bedouin out. That just isn't right.

You do realise that they are nomads and have no tribal lands, all they have is their camels, donkeys, sheep and goats that eat the vegetation until they break down their tents and move to the next stopping of point.

Nomad's have tribal lands. They have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern.

Tramps and Gypsies have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern, but they don't have any tribal lands. Unless you can call their homes they return to tribal lands. It is arab muslim propaganda to elicit a response in their favour, and it looks like it is working. Even the nomads say they don't want to live in squalor and deprivation, but at the same time don't want to leave because they are a thorn in Israel's side. Their village was built illegally and they are being asked to move a short distance still in the area they were allowed to set up camp. They are refusing to move and using non existent rules to hoodwink the gullible

Well, these folks were settled (legally) by the IDF in that place in the 1950's. Now, suddenly, their settlement is "illegal" for them but "legal" for the Jews that want to take it over.

Why not allow them to stay and live in the new village with the new infrastructure etc?

 

[Coyote]

Hey if they want a pure Jew state , we want an pure American country and you can't have that with racist here, IE: Jews.

I'm trying to figure out if you are serious or not, and I'm having trouble telling. You are claiming that an entire racial group is composed of racists. Do you not see any irony in that?

Actually I was making a sort of "hyperbole", but I want to really point how the hypocrisy of Israel, how racist they are of even the Ethiopian Jews (black and uneducated) to the Orthodox Jews (who many seculars I have read do not even want to live in the same apt building) with them.

If they want a all Jewish state, then let them be another SA, as that is what they are becoming. On a side note I do have a problem as well with all the jew non profits organizations that really only seem to benefit other jews here and around the world.

The only problem with the Bedouins they are poor, not terrorists or anything, just a poor community. Its good In the US we don't bulldoze poor communities for another group of people more suited to our liking. I do find it funny that its for the "religious " jews.

I can't say how this bothers me, along with their continued demolition of Pal homes for their settlements.

This country is our alley, and its hard to believe it is. There are also Jews in the US, the Pam Geller types that cause nothing but trouble. I am not ignorant of how the Israel lobby and Zionist elite control our government either, they can take their money and move to Israel since most have a dual citizenship anyway.

But your claim and racist bullshit here was against American Jews, and you said they should leave in favor of "real" Americans. "pure" Americans. THAT's the most racist thing I've ever heard.

So yeah, you're a total imbecile, a racist one, that is

What is racist is the state of Israel.

I don't know how to even answer that. You have a developed mind of a 3 year old, so why do i even bother with you...

Penelope takes an issue concerning Israeli policy and uses it to create an anti-semitic and conspiracy-theory fueled rant against Jews in entirety that is at odds with the article she posted. The article is just a vehicle for her nonsense. I don't think she really cares about the Bedouins or she wouldn't be throwing all that other stuff in.

 

[Phoenall]

UN officials urge Israel to halt Bedouin transfer plans

In a joint press release Wednesday, the Humanitarian Coordinator for the occupied Palestinian territory, James W. Rawley, and the Director of UNRWA Operations West Bank, Felipe Sanchez, expressed their "grave concern" about the proposed expulsions.

According to Rawley, "Israeli practices in Area C, including a marked increase of demolitions and confiscations of donor-funded structures in the first quarter of 2015, have compounded an already untenable situation for Bedouin communities."

46 Palestinian Bedouin communities – some 7,000 people – are slated for transfer to three proposed "relocation" sites. In March, the UN Secretary-General expressed concern that the plans "may also be connected with settlement expansion", and noted that "forcible transfer" is "a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention."

The UN agencies contextualise the threatened expulsions with a "backdrop of a discriminatory zoning and planning regime that facilitates the development of illegal Israeli settlements at the expense of Palestinians, for whom it is almost impossible to obtain permits for construction."

HRW denounces Israel expulsion of Bedouins Palestinians - Yahoo News "In the West Bank, Israeli authorities approved less than six percent of Palestinian building permit requests between 2000 and 2012, HRW said."

Demolition and Eviction of Bedouin Citizens of Israel in the Naqab Negev - The Prawer Plan - Adalah

Arab Bedouin citizens of Israel, inhabitants of the Naqab (Negev) desert since the seventh century, are the most vulnerable community in Israel. For over 60 years, the indigenous Arab Bedouin have faced a State policy of displacement, home demolitions and dispossession of their ancestral land. Today, 70,000 Arab Bedouin citizens live in 35 villages that, which either predate the establishment of the State in 1948, or were created by Israeli military order in the early 1950s. The State of Israel considers the villages “unrecognized” and the inhabitants “trespassers on State land,” so it denies these citizens access to State infrastructure like water, electricity, sewage, education, health care and roads. The State deliberately withholds basic services from these villages to “encourage” the Arab Bedouin citizens to give up their ancestral land.

Nothing to do with the UN until they force the arab muslims to stop murdering innocents

HRW is a proven ANTI_SEMITIC organisation, so their reports should be ignored.

Where is the proof they are "anti semitic"?

Criticism of Human Rights Watch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


HRW has been accused of bias against Israeland having an anti-Israeli agenda)[ by general-circulation newspapers, the Israeli government and supporters of Israel Political science professor and former consultant to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs Gerald M. Steinberg of Bar Ilan University, head of NGO Monitor (a pro-Israel NGO),[42] accused HRW of having "a strong anti-Israel bias from the beginning".[43] According to Steinberg, the organization's reports were based primarily on "Palestinian eyewitness testimony": testimony that is "not accurate, objective or credible but serves the political goal of indicting Israel".[44] In a Wall Street Journal opinion piece, law professor David Bernstein called HRW "maniacally anti-Israel".[45][46] Spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu Mark Regev said: "We discovered during the Gaza operation and the Second Lebanon War that these organizations come in with a very strong agenda, and because they claim to have some kind of halo around them, they receive a status that they don't deserve," referring to HRW and Amnesty International allegations of human-rights violations by Israeli forces during those conflicts.[47]

The organization has also been accused of ignoring anti-Semitism or being anti-Semitic itself. In a 2005 speech to the Anti-Defamation League former Spanish Foreign Minister Ana Palacio said, "NGOs like Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International pay little attention to anti-Semitism."[48] The ADL has also suggested that criticism of Israel may be motivated by anti-Semitism.[49] In The New York Sun, ADL national director Abraham Foxman criticized Roth's use of "a classic anti-Semitic stereotype about Jews".[

Being accused of it doesn't mean they are. Afterall, Israel gets accused of apartheid practices.

How many posters claim that Israel is apartheid and point to the military control in the west bank as the reason. The detractors of HRW point to the actions and words for the evidence of bias against the Jews. Even one of their founders stated they were biased. But when the evidence is produced then you cant say that they are only accused of anti-Semitism, they are proven anti-semites

 

[Phoenall]

Another article with another point of view:

http://www.newsweek.com/israels-desert-ghetto-243674

Roughly 63 percent of those previously "unrecognized" villages would receive official status under the plan. Over the next five years the central government would spend more than $300 million to provide those communities for the first time with schools, medical centers, paved streets and public utilities. The 37 percent would become state land, the homes marked for demolition and their inhabitants relocated to authorized villages. All those who agreed would receive compensation of up to $25,000 for their former dwelling places and as much as $12,500 for moving.

On top of that, the bill would help dispossessed Bedouin get payment for land that has been seized by the government. Currently more than 13,000 Negev land claims are pending. The bill's supporters contend that it will bring order to the desert, clean up the fetid shantytowns, and bring better lives to the Bedouin. "We cannot supply services to every unauthorized cluster in the desert," says Yossi Maymon of the government's Authority for the Regulating of Bedouin Settlements in the Negev. Every land claim would be settled automatically for half the stated price, no questions asked.

...

More than 40 years ago the warrior-politician Moshe Dayan laid out his vision for the Negev's inhabitants. "We must turn the Bedouin into urban laborers," he urged. "It means that the Bedouin will no longer live on his land with his flocks but will become an urbanite who comes home in the afternoon and puts his slippers on. His children will get used to a father who wears pants, without a dagger, and who does not pick out their nits in public. They will go to school, their hair combed and parted. This will be a revolution, but it can be achieved in two generations. Not by coercion but with direction from the state. This reality that is known as the Bedouin will disappear."

But all these decades later, the Bedouin still refuse to be obliterated. Marouf Saleh is one of the 1,500 or so inhabitants of Al Sir, an unrecognized shantytown within sight of Beer Sheva's skyline. The government's plan is to move Al Sir's people just a few miles away, to a town where Saleh's children already attend school and receive medical care. He glances around at the squalid corrugated-metal shacks of Al Sir. "We don't want to live like this," he says. "We want to build proper kinds of buildings on this land. But I would sleep outside just to keep this land. We're not leaving."

Not so simple a problem. I can understand the difficulty with providing infrastructure to every little community and shanty town. But I also understand the feeling of dispossession and loss of tribal lands these Beduoin must feel. And in the particular case of the OP - it's not a question of infrastructure. They will be moving a new group of people in after they force the Bedouin out. That just isn't right.

You do realise that they are nomads and have no tribal lands, all they have is their camels, donkeys, sheep and goats that eat the vegetation until they break down their tents and move to the next stopping of point.

Nomad's have tribal lands. They have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern.

Tramps and Gypsies have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern, but they don't have any tribal lands. Unless you can call their homes they return to tribal lands. It is arab muslim propaganda to elicit a response in their favour, and it looks like it is working. Even the nomads say they don't want to live in squalor and deprivation, but at the same time don't want to leave because they are a thorn in Israel's side. Their village was built illegally and they are being asked to move a short distance still in the area they were allowed to set up camp. They are refusing to move and using non existent rules to hoodwink the gullible

Well, these folks were settled (legally) by the IDF in that place in the 1950's. Now, suddenly, their settlement is "illegal" for them but "legal" for the Jews that want to take it over.

Why not allow them to stay and live in the new village with the new infrastructure etc?

WHO SAID THIS, has Israel come forward and said we gave them that land to build unsafe housing on. Or was it simply a stopping point on their migration around the M.E. Don't forget arab muslims make false claims all the time, and just shrug when found out. They have been offered land to rent or buy, and this is what sticks in their throats, as long as the build to code. Would you like a shanty town to spring up next to you, the stench of untreated sewage alone would have you demanding it be removed.

 

[Lipush]

Going back to the OT - there is merit to the compliant. From the NYT article linked to in the OT:

...Mr. Qian and the other members of some 70 Bedouin families are likely to be evicted soon from their homes in the hamlet of Umm al-Hiran, where they have been living since the 1950s. In their place, the Israeli government plans to build a community with nearly the same name, Hiran — but its expected residents will be religious, Zionist Jews.

The government says Umm al-Hiran is on state-owned land that it would like to develop, and it has fought a long legal battle to have the Bedouin families, about 1,000 people, relocated. This month, the Supreme Court ruled in a 2-1 decision that the families would have to leave. The court gave no date for when evictions could begin, and residents intend to appeal the decision.

The Bedouins say they do not want to leave land on which they have been living for more than half a century after being resettled there by the Israeli military. The government has promised compensation in the form of cash and land elsewhere, but the Bedouins say the decision to move them reflects discriminatory policies.

The land is "state-owned". They want to develop it. Ok. Why don't they develop it for the residents currently there? After all - the Israeli military settled them there in the first place. Or, why not develop up it to be a mixed community?

The policy certainly seems not only discriminatory but something from another era - like the way we used to "re-locate" Native Americans when we decided we wanted their land or decided their "reservation" was suddenly needed for white Christian expansion so we'd move them to yet another reservation (usually crappier).

For advocates of the future Jewish town of Hiran, the evictions are a matter of law and order.

“We are talking about state-owned lands on which people knowingly built on illegally,” said Liad Aviel, a government spokesman on Bedouins. “These people who built illegally on land that belongs to the state need to get off this land.”

But he added: “The court is very humane. They will not be kicked out of their homes without them having a solution.”

How is it "illegal" when the Israeli Military itself settled them there?

But supporters of the Bedouins view moving as acquiescence to a racist policy. The residents of Umm al-Hiran also say that the land the government has offered them in nearby Houra is already crowded and unsuitable for resettlement.

“This is a fight over our existence,” said Talab Abu Arar, a Bedouin member of Israel’s Parliament.

“The Israeli state sings to the world that it is a democratic state of Arabs and Jews,” he said, but “an Arab resident is prevented from his rights, while Jewish residents are given all their rights and more.”

Hassan Jabareen, chief attorney at the Arab legal rights group Adalah, which is representing the village, said that it was the first time the courts had ordered the evacuation of an entire hamlet, and that the reason for doing so — to build a Jewish community — set a dangerous precedent.

It sounds like they are trying to force them into ever more crowded and impoverished "reservations".

Clinton Bailey, an Israeli scholar who has studied the Bedouins for 45 years, said the military had concentrated them into one part of the Negev. Later, when Israel passed an absentee property law in 1953, Bedouins lost the rights to the land they used to live on, which had already been tenuous because most of them did not have deeds, just tribal acknowledgment of their territories, he said.

The Bedouins are the poorest and fastest-growing group in Israel, partly because of large, polygamous families. Some 70,000 Bedouins live in 35 communities that are off Israel’s planning grid, with no running water, power, roads, health care or education.

A $2 billion plan to resolve the Bedouins’ long-contested ownership claims to lands in the Negev was shelved in December 2013. It would have forced thousands of people to relocate, generally to smaller plots of land in government-built towns.

But Umm al-Hiran is unique among the Bedouin communities, its advocates say, because the Supreme Court acknowledged in its May 5 ruling that the residents were not trespassers. The government leased them land there until the 1980s, according to Adalah, the legal group. And Hiran will be built where Umm al-Hiran lies, suggesting that the government could also provide infrastructure for the Bedouins.

Hiran was part of a 2002 government plan to create several Jewish communities in the Negev to populate the sparse region, particularly contentious border areas like Umm al-Hiran, which is just miles from Israel’s de facto border with the West Bank.

The government said Umm al-Hiran’s residents could purchase plots in the future town, but Mr. Qian said they wanted to stay together as a community. He said they had asked to have their community recognized and to have a Jewish community built alongside theirs, but had received no response.

Again. Bedouin are Israeli citizens, yes? They have the same rights?

Do citizens in any normal country have only rights?

What do you mean?

I mean, do people have only RIGHTS in a normal state, or do they also have duties?

 

[Coyote]

Another article with another point of view:

http://www.newsweek.com/israels-desert-ghetto-243674

Not so simple a problem. I can understand the difficulty with providing infrastructure to every little community and shanty town. But I also understand the feeling of dispossession and loss of tribal lands these Beduoin must feel. And in the particular case of the OP - it's not a question of infrastructure. They will be moving a new group of people in after they force the Bedouin out. That just isn't right.

You do realise that they are nomads and have no tribal lands, all they have is their camels, donkeys, sheep and goats that eat the vegetation until they break down their tents and move to the next stopping of point.

Nomad's have tribal lands. They have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern.

Tramps and Gypsies have regular routes through regular territories in a seasonal pattern, but they don't have any tribal lands. Unless you can call their homes they return to tribal lands. It is arab muslim propaganda to elicit a response in their favour, and it looks like it is working. Even the nomads say they don't want to live in squalor and deprivation, but at the same time don't want to leave because they are a thorn in Israel's side. Their village was built illegally and they are being asked to move a short distance still in the area they were allowed to set up camp. They are refusing to move and using non existent rules to hoodwink the gullible

Well, these folks were settled (legally) by the IDF in that place in the 1950's. Now, suddenly, their settlement is "illegal" for them but "legal" for the Jews that want to take it over.

Why not allow them to stay and live in the new village with the new infrastructure etc?

WHO SAID THIS, has Israel come forward and said we gave them that land to build unsafe housing on. Or was it simply a stopping point on their migration around the M.E. Don't forget arab muslims make false claims all the time, and just shrug when found out. They have been offered land to rent or buy, and this is what sticks in their throats, as long as the build to code. Would you like a shanty town to spring up next to you, the stench of untreated sewage alone would have you demanding it be removed.

For the first question - numerous articles and sources have stated they were settled there by the Israeli military in the 1950's. "Settled" emplies a settlement, not a stopping point in a migration - settlement imposed by the millitary.

As far as the infrastructure - they're clearly intending to supply infrastructure to the new group of "settlers" who are to replace them. Why can't they do that for the existing inhabitants? It also goes back to the same old argument - arab Israeli citizens are routinely denied legitimacy for their villages, denied permits for infrastructure or expansion which are almost always granted for Jewish communities.