Well, Now It’s Out In The Open….

[multivita-man]

I don't have a problem with Mamdani on a personal level. He's probably a decent guy.

I just think he's another example of how deluded one faction of the Democratic party is. Socialist policies are more appealing in larger, more diverse urban centers, but that's not most of the country.

Yes, the government is involved in many areas of the economy. It's always been that way. But FFS, everyone since at least 1949 knows you can't run on socialism.

Call it something else. Compassionate capitalism. Magic Fairy Dust. Whatever. Anything but socialism.

 

[Anomalism]

To prove you a liar again.

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You should stop using terms you don't understand, even though it might leave you mute.

Many words have multiple uses in multiple contexts. If you're actually educated, you know there's nothing wrong with how I used that word, and more importantly, you knew exactly what I meant. You're getting desperate. This is really your angle now? Criticizing the use of a word I didn’t misuse, while still dodging every point I made?

You’re not debating. You’re deflecting. Still zero engagement with any point I made earlier in the thread.

Your own words to another poster are highly ironic given the circumstances, by the way.

"If this is the best you can do, you have simply validated what I wrote."

imawhosure

This person is actually trying to gaslight me about word usage now. They didn't take me up on the challenge either. There is nothing underneath the rhetoric.

 

[DukeU]

This thread is a classic “us vs them” political framing meant to mobilize opposition by painting the other side as existentially dangerous. This framing trades in Cold War fears and identity politics, ‘comrade’ as an insult, for example, to stoke fear rather than advance honest discussion. It creates enemies instead of addressing real policy debates.

Political discourse should focus on policy differences and real-world effects, not alarmist labels and reductive caricatures. It’s possible to critique the party without resorting to fear tactics that shut down dialogue. If the concern is about the influence of socialism or progressivism, have a discussion grounded in facts and ideas, not ad hominem and conspiracy.

 

[BluesLegend]

Even NYC Democrats have become a total clown show. Whatever happened to that party?

 

[Lisa558]

Even NYC Democrats have become a total clown show. Whatever happened to that party?

It’s surreal, isn’t it?

If they made a movie about this extreme degree of decline among Democrats - turning into antisemitic Communists - I’d say it was too unrealistic.

 

[BluesLegend]

It’s surreal, isn’t it?

If they made a movie about this extreme degree of decline among Democrats - turning into antisemitic Communists - I’d say it was too unrealistic.

When Obama forced Hillary to pivot hard left in the 2008 Dem primary, then won the nomination it was all over for Democrats. For decades moderate Dems kept their bat shit crazy left wingers quiet and under control. Obama helped the far left take over the party and purge the moderates. That was the beginning of the end, now that party is circling the drain.

 

[Anomalism]

When Obama forced Hillary to pivot hard left in the 2008 Dem primary, then won the nomination it was all over for Democrats. For decades moderate Dems kept their bat shit crazy left wingers quiet and under control. Obama helped the far left take over the party and purge the moderates. That was the beginning of the end, now that party is circling the drain.

She had to pivot even harder in the 2016 primaries to beat Bernie.

 

[Lisa558]

When Obama forced Hillary to pivot hard left in the 2008 Dem primary, then won the nomination it was all over for Democrats. For decades moderate Dems kept their bat shit crazy left wingers quiet and under control. Obama helped the far left take over the party and purge the moderates. That was the beginning of the end, now that party is circling the drain.

There are foreign adversaries putting up these radical leftists for office. The Communists and the Islamists have really gone far into infiltrating our government by convincing ignorant, gullible Democrats that the bad guys are the good guys, and vice versa.

 

[Lisa558]

When Obama forced Hillary to pivot hard left in the 2008 Dem primary, then won the nomination it was all over for Democrats. For decades moderate Dems kept their bat shit crazy left wingers quiet and under control. Obama helped the far left take over the party and purge the moderates. That was the beginning of the end, now that party is circling the drain.

And P.S. Obama made no secret that his sympathies lied with the Islamists.

 

[Lisa558]

BluesLegend

You think I’m kidding? Look at this leftist Chinese billionaire financing Mondami!

Exclusive | ‘Jews for Zohran’ Mamdani group tied to niece of lefty China-based billionaire

The niece of the China-based billionaire purportedly backing left-wing protest groups in the US spearheaded the “Jews for Zohran’” Mamdani campaign—a bid to give the Israel-bashing candidate …

nypost.com

 

[BluesLegend]

BluesLegend

You think I’m kidding? Look at this leftist Chinese billionaire financing Mondami!

Exclusive | ‘Jews for Zohran’ Mamdani group tied to niece of lefty China-based billionaire

The niece of the China-based billionaire purportedly backing left-wing protest groups in the US spearheaded the “Jews for Zohran’” Mamdani campaign—a bid to give the Israel-bashing candidate …

nypost.com

Well they must really suck at it because we put their WORST NIGHTMARE in the White House!! F around and find out you China MF'ers!

 

[BluesLegend]

And P.S. Obama made no secret that his sympathies lied with the Islamists.

Not only that, Obama made it a habit to bash Americans and point to China as the example we should follow. That guy was a real douchebag.

 

[Lisa558]

Not only that, Obama made it a habit to bash Americans and point to China as the example we should follow. That guy was a real douchebag.

One Big Ass Mistake, America.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Many words have multiple uses in multiple contexts. If you're actually educated, you know there's nothing wrong with how I used that word, and more importantly, you knew exactly what I meant. You're getting desperate. This is really your angle now? Criticizing the use of a word I didn’t misuse, while still dodging every point I made?

You’re not debating. You’re deflecting. Still zero engagement with any point I made earlier in the thread.

Your own words to another poster are highly ironic given the circumstances, by the way.

"If this is the best you can do, you have simply validated what I wrote."

imawhosure

This person is actually trying to gaslight me about word usage now. They didn't take me up on the challenge either. There is nothing underneath the rhetoric.

Of course I'm not debating......there is no debate: I'm stating facts.

You said there is no "substance" in the post.....a lie......are you ready to admit it?





1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”

The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory​

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.

jacobin.com




So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, Roosevelt was a SOCIALIST. He thought he could control/contain Stalin and Communism. He lied, he died, and left it to Truman.

Roosevelt turned the US Socialist during WWII

Government controlled all production, told manufacturers what they could build, who they could hire, what they paid worker, supplies they could get and profit they could make.

Won WWII and turned the US into a global economic superpower

 

[Anomalism]

Of course I'm not debating......there is no debate: I'm stating facts.

You said there is no "substance" in the post.....a lie......are you ready to admit it?





1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”

The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory​

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.

jacobin.com




So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

There is absolutely nothing beneath your rhetoric. That's why this is your third time copy and pasting something I have already responded to, even though you never responded to my points. You're embarrassing yourself.

It's clear at this point that you know you're being dishonest and deflective. I wonder what your motivation is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is absolutely nothing beneath your rhetoric. That's why this is your third time copy and pasting something I have already responded to, even though you never responded to my points. You're embarrassing yourself.

It's clear at this point that you know you're being dishonest and deflective. I wonder what your motivation is.

Liar.

Get lost.

 

[The Duke]

Spoken like a true believer in Marxism.

Donald H may have been Red Guard.
All posts by that one are to benefit China.

 

[Lisa558]

You're onto something with that. America's greedy form of capitalism has cause a reaction that was built for Trump's fascist regime.

Know thy enemy. It's not communism or socialism anymore. America never did succeed in letting go of it's fascist roots.

If you hate America so much and love Communism, why don’t you move to China?

 

[The Duke]

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders were not candidates in the 2020 presidential election.





Was this a poll on this forum? And this was writ large on all of America by you?



Someone needs to give you a lesson on the differences between democratic socialism and communism.

You are an ignorant idiot.

It was 2016.
Democratic Socialism.
You can vote your way into it, but you'll have to shoot your way out of it.
PC is right, we were establishing freedom when the 1st Commies were just getting started.
(French Revolution) and the Democrat party is no longer American.