Well, Now It’s Out In The Open….

[BluesLegend]

The Democratic REGIME has been indoctrinating students with this crap for decades so nobody is surprised.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You’re not presenting facts. You’re presenting ideology masquerading as fact, and the more important question is why do you need the enemy to be that evil to justify your position?

1. “Most of us remember when Democrats denied being socialist/communist.”

Mainstream Democrats support mixed-market capitalism, not state ownership of all production. Words like “communist” are used here not as accurate descriptions, but as weapons, a way to paint your opponents as inherently un-American. That’s Cold War cosplay, not policy analysis.

2. “Progressives share sympathies with communists.”

Sharing some values, like wanting a safety net or worker protections, doesn’t make someone a communist. By that logic, Dwight Eisenhower, who expanded Social Security and built the interstate highway system, was a Marxist. This “guilt by adjacency” tactic is intellectually lazy and historically dishonest. Kengor’s quote is propaganda, not scholarship. Saying “dupes” doesn’t prove people are dupes. It just assumes your worldview is the only valid one.

3. “Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020 and had it stolen.”

She wasn’t even running in 2020, and in 2016, she won both the popular vote and the delegate count. If your narrative needs fiction to work, that should tell you something. Also, Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a communist. There’s a massive difference, and you know it. You just don’t care, because precision gets in the way of fear.

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing.

5. “Openly Marxist candidates are running and winning under the Democrat banner.”

Yes, a handful of DSA-backed candidates have won local or state elections. That doesn’t mean the party as a whole is Marxist. A few libertarian anarchists also run under the GOP. Should I say that proves Republicans are an anti-government insurgency, or do I owe them more intellectual honesty than that?

Your closer “The Democrat Party is not American.”

Here’s where the mask slips. This isn’t about policy. This is about identity, purity, and exclusion. You’re saying half the country isn’t really American if they disagree with you. That’s not patriotism. That’s factionalism taken to a dangerous place. Historically, every authoritarian movement starts by deciding who really belongs. Calling fellow Americans “comrades” as a slur tells me more about your insecurity than your argument.

If your ideology depends on demonizing tens of millions of citizens as enemies of the nation, maybe it’s not actually about loving America. Maybe it’s about fearing change, and maybe what you’re calling “truth” is just an excuse to stop listening.

So you plan to continue voting for a foreign ideology.


Not too bright, and certainly not an American.

 

[Anomalism]

So you plan to continue voting for a foreign ideology.


Not too bright, and certainly not an American.

Your refusal to engage with my actual arguments says more than any rebuttal could have. This isn’t dialogue. It’s a purity test disguised as patriotism. I offered nuance, precision, and accountability; you responded with a litmus test and a loyalty oath. That’s not debate; it’s tribal gatekeeping.

I made arguments; you made insults.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your refusal to engage with my actual arguments says more than any rebuttal could have. This isn’t dialogue. It’s a purity test disguised as patriotism. I offered nuance, precision, and accountability; you responded with a litmus test and a loyalty oath. That’s not debate; it’s tribal gatekeeping.

I made arguments; you made insults.

So we agree that everything in my OP is true, accurate and correct.




1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”

The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory​

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.

jacobin.com




So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

 

[Anomalism]

So we agree that everything in my OP is true, accurate and correct.




1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”

The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory​

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.

jacobin.com




So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

Transparent gaslighting. You reveal yourself with this post. This isn’t a debate for you; it’s a performance.

No, we don't agree, and you know very well you never actually addressed any of my arguments, so I'll reiterate, but something tells me you still won't engage the substance.

You’re not presenting facts. You’re presenting ideology masquerading as fact, and the more important question is why do you need the enemy to be that evil to justify your position?

1. “Most of us remember when Democrats denied being socialist/communist.”

Mainstream Democrats support mixed-market capitalism, not state ownership of all production. Words like “communist” are used here not as accurate descriptions, but as weapons, a way to paint your opponents as inherently un-American. That’s Cold War cosplay, not policy analysis.

2. “Progressives share sympathies with communists.”

Sharing some values, like wanting a safety net or worker protections, doesn’t make someone a communist. By that logic, Dwight Eisenhower, who expanded Social Security and built the interstate highway system, was a Marxist. This “guilt by adjacency” tactic is intellectually lazy and historically dishonest. Kengor’s quote is propaganda, not scholarship. Saying “dupes” doesn’t prove people are dupes. It just assumes your worldview is the only valid one.

3. “Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020 and had it stolen.”

She wasn’t even running in 2020, and in 2016, she won both the popular vote and the delegate count. If your narrative needs fiction to work, that should tell you something. Also, Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a communist. There’s a massive difference, and you know it. You just don’t care, because precision gets in the way of fear.

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing.

5. “Openly Marxist candidates are running and winning under the Democrat banner.”

Yes, a handful of DSA-backed candidates have won local or state elections. That doesn’t mean the party as a whole is Marxist. A few libertarian anarchists also run under the GOP. Should I say that proves Republicans are an anti-government insurgency, or do I owe them more intellectual honesty than that?

Your closer “The Democrat Party is not American.”

Here’s where the mask slips. This isn’t about policy. This is about identity, purity, and exclusion. You’re saying half the country isn’t really American if they disagree with you. That’s not patriotism. That’s factionalism taken to a dangerous place. Historically, every authoritarian movement starts by deciding who really belongs. Calling fellow Americans “comrades” as a slur tells me more about your insecurity than your argument.

If your ideology depends on demonizing tens of millions of citizens as enemies of the nation, maybe it’s not actually about loving America. Maybe it’s about fearing change, and maybe what you’re calling “truth” is just an excuse to stop listening.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Transparent gaslighting. You reveal yourself with this post. This isn’t a debate for you; it’s a performance.

No, we don't agree, and you know very well you never actually addressed any of my arguments, so I'll reiterate, but something tells me you still won't engage the substance.

You’re not presenting facts. You’re presenting ideology masquerading as fact, and the more important question is why do you need the enemy to be that evil to justify your position?

1. “Most of us remember when Democrats denied being socialist/communist.”

Mainstream Democrats support mixed-market capitalism, not state ownership of all production. Words like “communist” are used here not as accurate descriptions, but as weapons, a way to paint your opponents as inherently un-American. That’s Cold War cosplay, not policy analysis.

2. “Progressives share sympathies with communists.”

Sharing some values, like wanting a safety net or worker protections, doesn’t make someone a communist. By that logic, Dwight Eisenhower, who expanded Social Security and built the interstate highway system, was a Marxist. This “guilt by adjacency” tactic is intellectually lazy and historically dishonest. Kengor’s quote is propaganda, not scholarship. Saying “dupes” doesn’t prove people are dupes. It just assumes your worldview is the only valid one.

3. “Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020 and had it stolen.”

She wasn’t even running in 2020, and in 2016, she won both the popular vote and the delegate count. If your narrative needs fiction to work, that should tell you something. Also, Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a communist. There’s a massive difference, and you know it. You just don’t care, because precision gets in the way of fear.

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing.

5. “Openly Marxist candidates are running and winning under the Democrat banner.”

Yes, a handful of DSA-backed candidates have won local or state elections. That doesn’t mean the party as a whole is Marxist. A few libertarian anarchists also run under the GOP. Should I say that proves Republicans are an anti-government insurgency, or do I owe them more intellectual honesty than that?

Your closer “The Democrat Party is not American.”

Here’s where the mask slips. This isn’t about policy. This is about identity, purity, and exclusion. You’re saying half the country isn’t really American if they disagree with you. That’s not patriotism. That’s factionalism taken to a dangerous place. Historically, every authoritarian movement starts by deciding who really belongs. Calling fellow Americans “comrades” as a slur tells me more about your insecurity than your argument.

If your ideology depends on demonizing tens of millions of citizens as enemies of the nation, maybe it’s not actually about loving America. Maybe it’s about fearing change, and maybe what you’re calling “truth” is just an excuse to stop listening.

Still appears that only your "is not, is nooooottttttttttt!!!" is the problem, but there is nothing in my post that is not true, accurate and correct.


Let's see how much validity to attach to your opinion.......

......who'd you vote for?

 

[Anomalism]

Still appears that only your "is not, is nooooottttttttttt!!!" is the problem, but there is nothing in my post that is not true, accurate and correct.


Let's see how much to attach to your opinion.......

......who'd you vote for?

This is classic deflection + bait. The goal is to shift attention away from my criticism of your methods and pivot to my political identity, so you can either discredit my position based on who I voted for, or didn't vote for, and dodge having to defend the actual content of your post.

No defense of your actual claim.
No rebuttal of the pattern I exposed.
Just an immediate pivot to "who did you vote for?"

This is a propaganda technique. Shift from the claim to the person. It's not an answer; it's a distraction. You’re not here to discuss in good faith. You’re here to disqualify voices so you don’t have to address the argument.

So let’s bring it back...

Which part of your original claim are you willing to stand by under scrutiny, without asking who I voted for?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Transparent gaslighting. You reveal yourself with this post. This isn’t a debate for you; it’s a performance.

No, we don't agree, and you know very well you never actually addressed any of my arguments, so I'll reiterate, but something tells me you still won't engage the substance.

You’re not presenting facts. You’re presenting ideology masquerading as fact, and the more important question is why do you need the enemy to be that evil to justify your position?

1. “Most of us remember when Democrats denied being socialist/communist.”

Mainstream Democrats support mixed-market capitalism, not state ownership of all production. Words like “communist” are used here not as accurate descriptions, but as weapons, a way to paint your opponents as inherently un-American. That’s Cold War cosplay, not policy analysis.

2. “Progressives share sympathies with communists.”

Sharing some values, like wanting a safety net or worker protections, doesn’t make someone a communist. By that logic, Dwight Eisenhower, who expanded Social Security and built the interstate highway system, was a Marxist. This “guilt by adjacency” tactic is intellectually lazy and historically dishonest. Kengor’s quote is propaganda, not scholarship. Saying “dupes” doesn’t prove people are dupes. It just assumes your worldview is the only valid one.

3. “Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020 and had it stolen.”

She wasn’t even running in 2020, and in 2016, she won both the popular vote and the delegate count. If your narrative needs fiction to work, that should tell you something. Also, Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a communist. There’s a massive difference, and you know it. You just don’t care, because precision gets in the way of fear.

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing.

5. “Openly Marxist candidates are running and winning under the Democrat banner.”

Yes, a handful of DSA-backed candidates have won local or state elections. That doesn’t mean the party as a whole is Marxist. A few libertarian anarchists also run under the GOP. Should I say that proves Republicans are an anti-government insurgency, or do I owe them more intellectual honesty than that?

Your closer “The Democrat Party is not American.”

Here’s where the mask slips. This isn’t about policy. This is about identity, purity, and exclusion. You’re saying half the country isn’t really American if they disagree with you. That’s not patriotism. That’s factionalism taken to a dangerous place. Historically, every authoritarian movement starts by deciding who really belongs. Calling fellow Americans “comrades” as a slur tells me more about your insecurity than your argument.

If your ideology depends on demonizing tens of millions of citizens as enemies of the nation, maybe it’s not actually about loving America. Maybe it’s about fearing change, and maybe what you’re calling “truth” is just an excuse to stop listening.

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing."



I never said all Democrats are communists....I said the communist half is taking over the party and fools like you will continue to vote for it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is classic deflection + bait. The goal is to shift attention away from my criticism of your methods and pivot to my political identity, so you can either discredit my position based on who I voted for, or didn't vote for, and dodge having to defend the actual content of your post.

No defense of your actual claim.
No rebuttal of the pattern I exposed.
Just an immediate pivot to "who did you vote for?"

This is a propaganda technique. Shift from the claim to the person. It's not an answer; it's a distraction. You’re not here to discuss in good faith. You’re here to disqualify voices so you don’t have to address the argument.

So let’s bring it back...

Which part of your original claim are you willing to stand by under scrutiny, without asking who I voted for?

Who'd you vote for, sham?

If you voted for this, then Kengor was right about you beieng a dupe:


Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system

 

[Anomalism]

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing."



I never said all Democrats are communists....I said the communist half is taking over the party and fools like you will continue to vote for it.

You’re dodging again. I pointed out that your strategy isn’t to make clear arguments; it’s to smear large groups (like Democrats) using guilt by association, and then deflect when challenged. Now you’re walking it back slightly, but still adding a personal insult ("fools like you") instead of dealing with the actual issue.

Let’s stay focused.

Your original post made a sweeping claim about communists taking over the Democratic party.

What specific evidence do you have for that?
Who exactly are the “communists”?
What power are they exercising that shows a takeover?

If you can’t or won’t answer that with facts, not name-calling or baiting, then it proves the point. This isn’t a good-faith argument. It’s just narrative warfare.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

But isn't it a different ball of wax now? The Chinese Communist system is running ahead of all the competition with their system of communist control within a capitalist system.

Yes, you can say that I praise China's peaceful course! Is that Marxism?

Chinas economy is only where it is right now because it is one of the few things about china that is not communist, the rest of the political and social culture is most assuredly communist/socialist which guarantees its economic regression if not outright collapse...you can count on it.

 

[Anomalism]

Who'd you vote for, sham?

If you voted for this, then Kengor was right about you beieng a dupe:


Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system


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You’re doubling down on the bait, name-calling, and trying to pin me with all the hot-button culture-war terms.

Once again, you refuse to address the actual claim and instead resort to bait and insults. Listing culture-war buzzwords and calling me names doesn’t prove your argument; it only reveals you’re avoiding scrutiny. If you truly believe your original claims about the Democratic Party and communism, back them up with clear, specific evidence instead of insults and deflection
Otherwise, this isn’t debate. It’s just shouting into the void.

 

[SeaMajor7]

You’re dodging again. I pointed out that your strategy isn’t to make clear arguments; it’s to smear large groups (like Democrats) using guilt by association, and then deflect when challenged. Now you’re walking it back slightly, but still adding a personal insult ("fools like you") instead of dealing with the actual issue.

Let’s stay focused.

Your original post made a sweeping claim about communists taking over the Democratic party.

What specific evidence do you have for that?
Who exactly are the “communists”?
What power are they exercising that shows a takeover?

If you can’t or won’t answer that with facts, not name-calling or baiting, then it proves the point. This isn’t a good-faith argument. It’s just narrative warfare.

Yuri Bezmenov warned us about YOU.
You're a demented avenger subverted demoralized zombie. No amount of verifiable information can sway you. Anything that goes against your programming you cannot accept as fact.
It is utterly useless to even try.

 

[Anomalism]

Yuri Bezmenov warned us about YOU.
You're a demented avenger subverted demoralized zombie. No amount of verifiable information can sway you. Anything that goes against your programming you cannot accept as fact.
It is utterly useless to even try.

Ad hominem and projection. Instead of addressing the questions I posed about evidence and specifics, you choose to label me with insults and conspiracy rhetoric. If your goal is honest discussion, answer the questions. If it’s just to dismiss dissent, then that says everything about your willingness to engage.

I’m waiting.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Ad hominem and projection. Instead of addressing the questions I posed about evidence and specifics, you choose to label me with insults and conspiracy rhetoric. If your goal is honest discussion, answer the questions. If it’s just to dismiss dissent, then that says everything about your willingness to engage.

I’m waiting.

Marxism has been infiltrating our edu, media, and governance for a ******* CENTURY.
GTFOH with your INSANE denial.

 

[Anomalism]

Marxism has been infiltrating our edu, media, and governance for a ******* CENTURY.
GTFOH with your INSANE denial.

Another example of escalating emotional rhetoric and broad generalizations designed to overwhelm and shut down critical discussion. This is exactly the kind of sweeping, hyperbolic claim that demands serious evidence, not all-caps shouting and blanket accusations. You're fearmongering, not making an actual argument. Bring facts, not fury.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Another example of escalating emotional rhetoric and broad generalizations designed to overwhelm and shut down critical discussion. This is exactly the kind of sweeping, hyperbolic claim that demands serious evidence, not all-caps shouting and blanket accusations. You're fearmongering, not making an actual argument. Bring facts, not fury.

GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT

 

[Anomalism]

GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT

Another dodge. If you think I’m wrong, explain why with evidence or logic instead of slinging insults.

Is there any actual substance behind your views?

 

[Donald H]

Chinas economy is only where it is right now because it is one of the few things about china that is not communist, the rest of the political and social culture is most assuredly communist/socialist which guarantees its economic regression if not outright collapse...you can count on it.

The majority of the world's countries have already united together in the Brics alliance, with the common purpose of fighting to stop the rise of the 21st. century fascist regime.

Democracy will have to wait.

China has devised a system that's as close to democracy as possible, when fascism once again threatens world war.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The majority of the world's countries have already united together in the Brics alliance, with the common purpose of fighting to stop the rise of the 21st. century fascist regime.

Democracy will have to wait.

China has devised a system that's as close to democracy as possible, when fascism once again threatens world war.

That's some dangerous dumbfuckery right there.
Damn.