Well, Now It’s Out In The Open….

[PoliticalChic]

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A low estimate of 20,000,000 by at least half.

"Over the past 100 years the most oppressive ideology in the world has been communism [Marxism]. While the people who lived under it were starved, tortured and murdered, its leaders lived in luxury.
The suppression of ordinary people by their communist rulers far surpasses anything capitalist employers were ever accused of doing. While condemning exploitation, communist dictators turned out to be masters at it.

a. R.J. Rummel estimates that almost 170 million people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments. These are not deaths in war. They are the victims of genocide by the governments in the countries where they lived. Hate on the Left


61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill

 

[PoliticalChic]

The only thing you validated was your DDS. You think everything that's wrong, is because of the democrats. You're like one of those jew conspiracy people, who think Jews are trying to take over the world.

Anything not 100% correct and accurate, you buffoon???


…..so you no longer have to deny it.



1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”

The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory​

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.

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So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

 

[Anomalism]

This thread is a classic “us vs them” political framing meant to mobilize opposition by painting the other side as existentially dangerous. This framing trades in Cold War fears and identity politics, ‘comrade’ as an insult, for example, to stoke fear rather than advance honest discussion. It creates enemies instead of addressing real policy debates.

Political discourse should focus on policy differences and real-world effects, not alarmist labels and reductive caricatures. It’s possible to critique the party without resorting to fear tactics that shut down dialogue. If the concern is about the influence of socialism or progressivism, have a discussion grounded in facts and ideas, not ad hominem and conspiracy.

 

[g5000]

3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders were not candidates in the 2020 presidential election.

4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.

Was this a poll on this forum? And this was writ large on all of America by you?

5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

Someone needs to give you a lesson on the differences between democratic socialism and communism.

You are an ignorant idiot.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You're like one of those jew conspiracy people, who think Jews are trying to take over the world.

No. She is not like today's typical Democrat at all.

 

[Donald H]

"Over the past 100 years the most oppressive ideology in the world has been communism [Marxism]. While the people who lived under it were starved, tortured and murdered, its leaders lived in luxury.
The suppression of ordinary people by their communist rulers far surpasses anything capitalist employers were ever accused of doing. While condemning exploitation, communist dictators turned out to be masters at it.

a. R.J. Rummel estimates that almost 170 million people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments. These are not deaths in war. They are the victims of genocide by the governments in the countries where they lived. Hate on the Left


61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill

As it was in Cuba, communism brought prosperity in spite of US fascist attempts to destroy Cuba's people.

Communism/socialism has been quietly waiting for 80 years for the fascist threat to rise again. It always does. America/Trump looked to the Ukraine's fascist base to guide America's revival of Fascism and neo-Nazi roots. It was always there moldering away beside the bedsheet costumes and the poiny hats of the KKK.

Communism/Marxism/Socialism is once again America's enemy. The hearts and minds of Americans were never really committed to defeating Nazism.

 

[Donald H]

This thread is a classic “us vs them” political framing meant to mobilize opposition by painting the other side as existentially dangerous.

No, Americans have practically succeeded in coming together under the banner of fascism. The resistance is feeble and near non-existent.
No democatic principles can change America's course now!

The rest of the world is already coming together, not to fight fascism this time, but to stand as a defense against America.

 

[j-mac]

Fascism needs to be stopped and the world is already forming an alliance under a Communist banner to stop its spread, once again.

So, you're saying America is the Fascist nation?

Americans' being propagandized to hate communism/socialism, has added extra energy to the budding Fascist regime.

Propagandized to hate Communism/Socialism? Are you freaking kidding me? What's to love about either of those systems?

I don't see any alternative to a a 10 year 4th. Reich.*

Who's the 4th Reich?

Americans need to learn about democracy. The one-party system with the great American pie has always been reserved for the wealthy class.

That's just a bunch of bullshit right there...This lie has been disproven so many times, I am actually shocked you would attempt it...

How could that come to an end in any other way but a fascist regime born out of the ashes?

You'll have to explain what you mean here...

* excepting the chance of a General choosing to fall on his sword.

What General?

Why is it that you're posting in riddles? Can't you just come out and clearly say what you want? Or would that expose you further?

 

[Donald H]

No, Americans have practically succeeded in coming together under the banner of fascism. The resistance is feeble and near non-existent.
No democatic principles can change America's course now!

The rest of the world is already coming together, not to fight fascism this time, but to stand as a defense against America.

Consider that the time to go underground is close, if you decide to resist.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This thread is a classic “us vs them” political framing meant to mobilize opposition by painting the other side as existentially dangerous. This framing trades in Cold War fears and identity politics, ‘comrade’ as an insult, for example, to stoke fear rather than advance honest discussion. It creates enemies instead of addressing real policy debates.

Political discourse should focus on policy differences and real-world effects, not alarmist labels and reductive caricatures. It’s possible to critique the party without resorting to fear tactics that shut down dialogue. If the concern is about the influence of socialism or progressivism, have a discussion grounded in facts and ideas, not ad hominem and conspiracy.

But it is "us vs them," it is Americaism vs communism, you dunce.


I bet you voted for this:


Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders were not candidates in the 2020 presidential election.





Was this a poll on this forum? And this was writ large on all of America by you?



Someone needs to give you a lesson on the differences between democratic socialism and communism.

You are an ignorant idiot.

You're the wiindbag who claimed to be a bomb experts............



I utterly destroyed any credibility you ever enjoyed.....with this picture:



If they thought Ahmed brought a ‘bomb’, why didn’t they evacuate the school? – The Express Tribune Blog





And now you are eligible to change your avi to "1stClassBuffoon"



Do so quickly!

 

[Anomalism]

You're the wiindbag who claimed to be a bomb experts............



I utterly destroyed any credibility you ever enjoyed.....with this picture:



If they thought Ahmed brought a ‘bomb’, why didn’t they evacuate the school? – The Express Tribune Blog





And now you are eligible to change your avi to "1stClassBuffoon"



Do so quickly!

This kind of exchange reveals a deeply polarized, emotionally charged worldview. You're leaning into totalizing language, conspiratorial frameworks, and cultural fear-mongering to flatten political nuance. You’ve just illustrated my point. Rather than talk about actual policy, you’ve listed a bunch of emotionally charged terms and tried to equate every political disagreement with an existential national crisis. This isn’t a conversation.

 

[Moonglow]

nationalizations of industry,

Reports and analysis surrounding Nippon Steel's acquisition of U.S. Steel, which was approved by President Donald Trump in June 2025, have raised questions and comparisons to nationalization, particularly due to the inclusion of a "golden share" in the national security agreement.
Here's a breakdown of the key points:

• Golden Share: As part of the deal, Nippon Steel agreed to grant the U.S. government a "golden share" in the combined company.
• Veto Power: This golden share provides the U.S. government with veto power over crucial decisions related to U.S. Steel's operations, including significant changes to production levels or factory locations, according to Yahoo Finance.
• Trump's Control: While President Trump is in office, he directly controls this power, which reverts to the Treasury and Commerce departments under future administrations.
• Nationalization Debate: Some analysts argue that the golden share grants the U.S. government such significant control over U.S. Steel's strategic decisions that it effectively amounts to a form of nationalization, particularly given Trump's direct control while in office.
• Government's Position: The White House, however, stated that the share is not granted to Trump specifically but to the sitting president, indicating that it's a mechanism to protect national security interests.
• Investment and Security: The agreement also includes commitments from Nippon Steel to invest $11 billion in U.S. Steel by 2028, with potentially more later, and aims to address concerns about foreign investment in a key U.S. industry.

In essence, while Trump did not formally nationalize Nippon Steel (which is a Japanese company acquiring a U.S. company), the "golden share" provision has sparked debate about the level of government control over a private company and its implications for both the future of U.S. Steel and foreign investment in the United States.

 

[Moonglow]

Again, Poly is lying as per usual. What she accuses the Dems of doing is exactly what the MAGATs are doing or have done. She's another Baghdad Bob.

 

[g5000]

You're the wiindbag who claimed to be a bomb experts............



I utterly destroyed any credibility you ever enjoyed.....with this picture:



If they thought Ahmed brought a ‘bomb’, why didn’t they evacuate the school? – The Express Tribune Blog

You do realize your link thoroughly debunks you, right?

This is why you have this pathological obsession over a topic from, what, ten years ago?!?

You can't stand when someone gets the better of you.


Moving on...

Would you like to correct your error about Bernie Sanders getting more votes than Hillary Clinton in 2020? Perhaps you'd like to continue to talk about it for the next ten years.

.

 

[IM2]

More nonsense.

 

[g5000]

More nonsense.

Always.

It's her thing.

I've put a commie under her bed, and a backup in her closet.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This kind of exchange reveals a deeply polarized, emotionally charged worldview. You're leaning into totalizing language, conspiratorial frameworks, and cultural fear-mongering to flatten political nuance. You’ve just illustrated my point. Rather than talk about actual policy, you’ve listed a bunch of emotionally charged terms and tried to equate every political disagreement with an existential national crisis. This isn’t a conversation.

Can you find anything not true, accurate and correct:


1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”

The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory​

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.

jacobin.com




So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Always.

It's her thing.

I've put a commie under her bed, and a backup in her closet.

Beat it, windbag.

 

[Anomalism]

Can you find anything not true, accurate and correct:


1.Most of us are old enough to recall that claims that the Democrat Party is socialist/communist were greeted with vehement denials.



2. About half of the Party’s supporter always came from the interchangeable terms socialist/communist/Progressive/ etc. Professor Kengor said this: "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical. Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century




3. Push came to shove when Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020, and had the nomination outright stolen because the establishment Democrat couldn’t allow Marxism to be their brand.




4. In a recent thread we found that only one Democrat voter said he would reconsider voting Democrat depending on their agenda (Why Are There No Democrat Intellectuals?). Communism is just fine.




5. Openly communist/Marxist candidates are openly running under the Democrat banner, and winning.

“The socialist movement led Zohran Mamdani to victory.

….easily the most important factor in Zohran’s victory is the movement that Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has built in New York City since the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. I want to stress two elements.”

The Socialist Movement Led Zohran Mamdani to Victory​

Pundits have emphasized Zohran Mamdani’s videos and charisma and Andrew Cuomo’s weaknesses in Mamdani’s victory. But easily the most important factor in that victory is the movement that the Democratic Socialists of America have built in New York City.

jacobin.com




So, today’s Democrat Party is not an American party, and if you vote Democrat you are casting aside any American values, heritage, and identity…….comrade.

You’re not presenting facts. You’re presenting ideology masquerading as fact, and the more important question is why do you need the enemy to be that evil to justify your position?

1. “Most of us remember when Democrats denied being socialist/communist.”

Mainstream Democrats support mixed-market capitalism, not state ownership of all production. Words like “communist” are used here not as accurate descriptions, but as weapons, a way to paint your opponents as inherently un-American. That’s Cold War cosplay, not policy analysis.

2. “Progressives share sympathies with communists.”

Sharing some values, like wanting a safety net or worker protections, doesn’t make someone a communist. By that logic, Dwight Eisenhower, who expanded Social Security and built the interstate highway system, was a Marxist. This “guilt by adjacency” tactic is intellectually lazy and historically dishonest. Kengor’s quote is propaganda, not scholarship. Saying “dupes” doesn’t prove people are dupes. It just assumes your worldview is the only valid one.

3. “Communist Bernie got more votes than Hillary in 2020 and had it stolen.”

She wasn’t even running in 2020, and in 2016, she won both the popular vote and the delegate count. If your narrative needs fiction to work, that should tell you something. Also, Bernie is a democratic socialist, not a communist. There’s a massive difference, and you know it. You just don’t care, because precision gets in the way of fear.

4. “Only one Democrat voter said they’d reconsider depending on the agenda.”

That’s not data, it’s anecdote, and if you think your thread proves all Democrats are communists because one anonymous person didn’t express doubt, you’re not arguing; you’re proselytizing.

5. “Openly Marxist candidates are running and winning under the Democrat banner.”

Yes, a handful of DSA-backed candidates have won local or state elections. That doesn’t mean the party as a whole is Marxist. A few libertarian anarchists also run under the GOP. Should I say that proves Republicans are an anti-government insurgency, or do I owe them more intellectual honesty than that?

Your closer “The Democrat Party is not American.”

Here’s where the mask slips. This isn’t about policy. This is about identity, purity, and exclusion. You’re saying half the country isn’t really American if they disagree with you. That’s not patriotism. That’s factionalism taken to a dangerous place. Historically, every authoritarian movement starts by deciding who really belongs. Calling fellow Americans “comrades” as a slur tells me more about your insecurity than your argument.

If your ideology depends on demonizing tens of millions of citizens as enemies of the nation, maybe it’s not actually about loving America. Maybe it’s about fearing change, and maybe what you’re calling “truth” is just an excuse to stop listening.