We will benefit from this

[postman]

Their economy was dying because of Chavez and Maduro, period.

If only you could read.

 

[OldFlame]

The "lesser of two evils" is just something evil, stupid people say.

You talk about living in reality, when all you do is spout fantasies.

You'd rather see the collapse of the country before your so-called 'standards' were violated.

 

[postman]

Why did we switch topics, were we not talking about the US 'running' Venezuela?

Words are meaningless. Actions matter.

Words from the president of the United States are meaningless now?

That's how low America has sunk under Trump.

The bully pulpit, has turned into the bullyshit.

 

[OldFlame]

If only you could read.

I read quite well.

The fact that you blame the US solely for the current situation in Venezuela is all I need to know about you to know what you are.

 

[postman]

Period.
Exclamation point!
Because they're Communists.
And Communism NEVER works.

Then why is China heading to be the biggest economy in the world?

 

[OldFlame]

Words from the president of the United States are meaningless now?

That's now low America has sunk under Trump.

His 'word' said temporarily, but you conveniently want to eliminate that part, why is that?

 

[Bitterhook]

Wow, 'war for oil' is about the only worn-out mantra the opposition can grasp, regardless of the fact we aren't at war, and we did a lot more to protect our interests in our hemisphere while crippling any plans or interests Russia, China, Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah had in Venezuela.

I guess it all depends on which ball you want to chase, and whether or not you would prefer your federal government handling International Affairs as part of the 18 enumerated powers identified in the US Constitution, or dragging grandmas at local school board meetings off for questioning regarding their objections to the approved agenda, which should be none of the federal governments business to start with.

 

[postman]

I read quite well.

The fact that you blame the US solely for the current situation in Venezuela is all I need to know about you to know what you are.

Taking the fact that Chavez and Maduro are no longer there. The only thing holding them back are those factors still in place.

 

[CowboyTed]

Yes. I love that the US oil companies will get their stolen property back and modernize it.

How are you lefties going to fuel airplanes with butterfly jizz?

Thing is, their stuff is gone... IT isn't there anymore....

Oil companies aren't going to want to invest in unstable political climate only to be thrown out by the next Venezuela government...

Democrats aren't going to OK that money, in reality I don't think Congress would pass that today...

Oil Companies don't want the risk.... BTW, they weren't told about the plan for them to take it on...

Military did their job, professional. Exact, on the money.

It is now coming apparent that this whole idea was half baked from the WH Admin... Now we know they have no plan... They sent in special forces on a highly dangerous mission we no ******* clue about the upside...

Oil companies want to give it a pass... Trump is going to try and get US taxpayers to pick up the bill and not many have the appetite for another Iraq...

So I think there is a real possibility that they try Madero but effectively nothing will change.. Madero might even get off, he is guilty of many crimes but I don't see the evidence of his crimes in US...

 

[Lockback]

They why is China heading to be the biggest economy in the world?

Just look at you: Defending Communism.
China has learned that pure Commie doesn't work and have opened things up a bit, although it's still a state-run economy and probably the most authoritarian regime on Earth, aside from North Korea.
There's one big difference between China and, say, Portland: China wouldn't put up with the crime. They'd kill the Bad Guys. Which is why crime is practically non-existent there.
That's decidedly not the case here.
But thanks for defending Communism. It's always nice to see people reveal their real selves.

 

[TNHarley]

You talk about living in reality, when all you do is spout fantasies.

You'd rather see the collapse of the country before your so-called 'standards' were violated.

I already said i agree that duopoly voters are too stupid to wake up. What more do you want?

 

[OldFlame]

If only you could read.

Tell me which of these brought about the collapse of Venezuela?

Sanctions on Venezuela primarily target its crucial oil sector and government officials, blocking access to U.S. financial markets, freezing assets, restricting oil/debt transactions (especially with state oil company PDVSA), banning arms sales, and imposing travel bans, all aimed at pressuring the Maduro regime over human rights and democratic issues, though specific licenses offer temporary relief for oil trade incentives. These measures also target individuals involved in corruption, drug trafficking (like the Cartel de los Soles), and election interference, including Maduro's family, with recent efforts focusing on sanctions evasion tactics like "ghost fleets" and digital assets.

Key Areas of Sanctions:

• Oil & Finance: Prohibitions on U.S. entities from engaging with Venezuela's oil sector (PDVSA), purchasing its debt, and accessing U.S. financial markets.
• Individual Sanctions: Asset freezes and visa bans for officials, their associates, and family members linked to corruption, human rights abuses, and undermining democracy.
• Arms Embargo: A ban on all commercial arms sales to Venezuela.
• Terrorism & Drug Trafficking: Designations for groups like the Cartel de los Soles (Soles Cartel) and Tren de Aragua, imposing related financial restrictions.

Recent Developments & Evasion:

• Temporary Relief: In 2024, the Biden administration offered some sanctions relief (licenses) to encourage free elections, which were later revoked after the agreement wasn't fully met.
• Increased Enforcement: Recent actions target "ghost ships" and shipping companies involved in sanctions evasion, aiming to block illicit oil shipments.
• Digital Assets: The U.S. is also focusing on seizing digital assets (like stablecoins) used by the regime to circumvent sanctions.

EU Sanctions:

• The EU's sanctions are more limited, focusing on travel bans, asset freezes, and an arms embargo on individuals connected to the regime, rather than broad economic restrictions like the U.S..

 

[postman]

His 'word' said temporarily, but you conveniently want to eliminate that part, why is that?

We were in Vietnam "temporarily".
We were in Iraq "temporarily"
We were in Afghanistan "temporarily"

We will be running Venezuela "temporarily".

 

[Nostra]

And Google says - Lyndon B. Johnson (1964)

Percentage of popular vote: 61.1%
Popular vote: 43,128,958
Electoral vote: 486

There were approx 190 million Americans in 1964. 43 isn’t a majority of 191, Simp.

This is where he changes his story……

 

[berg80]

Thank gawd our president is America first! Because repaying oil companies for rebuilding another countries infrastructure will benefit us greatly! Using tax payers so oil companies can make more billions is the american way. And by gawd it is America first! America voted for this!

MSN

"A tremendous amount of money will have to be spent, and the oil companies will spend it, and then they’ll get reimbursed by us, or through revenue," he said.

The Great Unraveling Has Begun​

President Trump’s decision to launch a secretive predawn military operation in Venezuela to grab President Nicolás Maduro is a blatant assault on the international legal order. The action threatens to end an era of historic peace and return us to a world in which might makes right. The cost will be paid in human lives.

Last year marked the 80th anniversary of the 1945 United Nations Charter, a document signed by 51 nations at the close of World War II. The signatories pledged to act “to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war.” The great powers have not gone to war with one another since, and no U.N. member state has disappeared as a result of conquest.

But over the past decade, that peace has begun to unravel. Today, it is on the precipice of collapsing altogether. If that happens, the consequences will be catastrophic. We can already see the devastating cost: According to my calculations, from 1989 to 2014, battle-related deaths from cross-border conflicts averaged less than 15,000 a year. Beginning in 2014, the average has risen to over 100,000 a year. As states increasingly disregard limits on the lawful use of force, this may be just the beginning of a deadly new era of conflict.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/06/opinion/peace-conflict-war.html

As it turns out, "America First" is a euphemism for "the rest of the world can go **** itself."

 

[CowboyTed]

IRONY OVERLOAD

A lot of people know their history and they don't want another Iraq... Even the Oil Companies don't want another Iraq...

Oil is at $60/barrel... Not economical... This is about business...

 

[Godboy]

Im glad you are glad you will probably be paying for it. Very patriotic of you.

Paying for what? Lower gas prices? Whatever they spend to get oil rigs running again will come back 10 fold in gas and shipping price reductions. EVERYTHING will get cheaper from having low gas prices.

 

[OldFlame]

Taking the fact that Chavez and Maduro are no longer there. The only thing holding them back are those factors still in place.

Are you serious? Maduro has been gone for 5 days, you expect to see results already? Are you nuts?

 

[postman]

Tell me which of these brought about the collapse of Venezuela?

We're not talking about how it fell.
But what's stopping it from getting back on it's feet.

 

[Lockback]

Thing is, their stuff is gone... IT isn't there anymore....

Oil companies aren't going to want to invest in unstable political climate only to be thrown out by the next Venezuela government...

Democrats aren't going to OK that money, in reality I don't think Congress would pass that today...

Oil Companies don't want the risk.... BTW, they weren't told about the plan for them to take it on...

Military did their job, professional. Exact, on the money.

It is now coming apparent that this whole idea was half baked from the WH Admin... Now we know they have no plan... They sent in special forces on a highly dangerous mission we no ******* clue about the upside...

Oil companies want to give it a pass... Trump is going to try and get US taxpayers to pick up the bill and not many have the appetite for another Iraq...

So I think there is a real possibility that they try Madero but effectively nothing will change.. Madero might even get off, he is guilty of many crimes but I don't see the evidence of his crimes in US...

1) It's MADURO, not Madero
2) How do you know we have no plan? Did CNN tell you that? The New York Times? MSNOW? Please share with the class.