We saw this coming two years ago... MASKING FAILED

[sparky]

what does the "doctrine" say the purpose of masks is?

It says it is one component of PPE required Dad

~S~

 

[Papageorgio]

Well, the next time you have an operation, insist the doctor not wear a mask okay.

Thanks in advance.

The study didnt say that, did you read the study? It talked about Covid-19, not surgery, the level of dumb that people like to go is mind numbing.

 

[Papageorgio]

If you ever have surgery INSIST the doctors/nurses in the OR not wear masks or scrub. Hell, make them wear street clothes.

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Oh, and no gloves either.

That is stupid, you ignore a scientific study because the government pumped you wit misinformation? Early on during Covid-19 we were told masking was ineffective in slowing down Covid-19, later on we were told different. The main reason is viral organisms are much smaller than bacteria, thus the virus would still pass through N95 or even surgical masks. It turned into symbolism and the myth was created, it did little if anything, that is why large indoor events were cancelled, masis didn’t help. We need to learn and move on.
Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery This link addresses why surgeons wear masks, it speaks of it protecting the surgeon from infection and keep the patient safe from bacterial infections. Virus infections were not noted, probably because that is not what it was used for. The link also discusses whether wearing masks at all is effective at all for protecting against bacterial infections.
Note the article was written pre-Covid-19.
We need to follow the science, not the propaganda.

 

[Papageorgio]

Comparing rocks to the brains you guys have...it's a 100% match.

Masking works. N95s work. Procedure masks aren't that great but they're better than nothing.

Those are the facts...

Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery

The use of surgical facemasks is ubiquitous in surgical practice. Facemasks have long been thought to confer protection to the patient from wound infection and contamination from the operating surgeon and other members of the surgical staff. More recently, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not once in this article does it mention masks helping in preventing viral infections, let alone bacterial infections.

Then you add a very respectable research group and their scientific study.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

I think I’ll take science over your political sidings.

 

[HeyNorm]

Well, the next time you or one of your kids has a procedure, insist that the surgeon and their team not wear masks or gloves. Got it?

If the surgeon had the coronavirus, the mask wouldn’t help. So what’s your point?

And if you insisted the surgeon wore a mask that stoped the migration of viral infections it would do no good as well because the webbing in the mask would have to be woven so tightly, the surgeon and staff would suffocate.

And dead surgeons don’t perform surgery all that well.

 

[candycorn]

The study didnt say that, did you read the study? It talked about Covid-19, not surgery, the level of dumb that people like to go is mind numbing.

Either masks work or they don't. If you don't think masks work...tell the doctors not to wear them when they cut you open.

 

[candycorn]

Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery

The use of surgical facemasks is ubiquitous in surgical practice. Facemasks have long been thought to confer protection to the patient from wound infection and contamination from the operating surgeon and other members of the surgical staff. More recently, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not once in this article does it mention masks helping in preventing viral infections, let alone bacterial infections.

Then you add a very respectable research group and their scientific study.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

I think I’ll take science over your political sidings.

Feel free to tell your doctors not to wear them during a procedure they're performing on you.

 

[HeyNorm]

Feel free to tell your doctors not to wear them during a procedure they're performing on you.

Why?

 

[Papageorgio]

Either masks work or they don't. If you don't think masks work...tell the doctors not to wear them when they cut you open.

I believe they work for bacteria, not viral, the also protect the surgeon for possible blood squirting, however you only think binary, so your comment is worthless, partisan nutter.

 

[Papageorgio]

Feel free to tell your doctors not to wear them during a procedure they're performing on you.

Again, ignores science, doesn’t read links and remains ignorant to real science. Being a partisan is really a not so smart way to live but you can’t fix stupid. Feel free to wear your masks around Covid-19 infected people, you can’t possibly get it.

 

[Dagosa]

Boy, you are one dumb bunny.

Obviously, “You are one dumb bunny”
is not a quote from the cdc showing they are wrong on anything. So, your post an abject failure and just made up shit you might have heard from Tucker…..who makes up shit all the time.

 

[Dagosa]

I believe they work for bacteria, not viral, the also protect the surgeon for possible blood squirting, however you only think binary, so your comment is worthless, partisan nutter.

They help work for viral because they mitigate the water droplets emitted by breathing, a primary way virus travel through the air. Now, if a high enough load of the virus finds its way into YOUR mask from an infected person, you can more easily get infected. It’s SOURCE protection from a potentially infected person. Hospitals have been doing it successfully for decades…long before covid. .

 

[Dagosa]

No, they aren't. Viral particles are so small they pass right through any mask.

Virus can travel on water droplets emitted by people who actually breathe. The masks are worn by potentially INFECTED, NON SYMPTOMATIC peoples to keep them from spreading a higher concentration of droplets.
Its source protection, foolish.

 

[Dagosa]

Virus can travel on water droplets emitted by people who actually breathe. The masks are worn by potentially INFECTED, NON SYMPTOMATIC peoples to keep them from spreading a higher concentration of droplets.
Its source protection, foolish.

Go ahead. Provide a link showing me wrong. All you have to do is go to the cdc, Johns Hopkins, Mayo Clinic or any medical research facility web site and ask the question, if you can read. It’s still recommended in areas where infection rates are high….

 

[westwall]

Virus can travel on water droplets emitted by people who actually breathe. The masks are worn by potentially INFECTED, NON SYMPTOMATIC peoples to keep them from spreading a higher concentration of droplets.
Its source protection, foolish.

It's no protection. Virus particles are not transported in droplets, they are propelled out, all on their own. We have decades of research that proves this.

You anti science, religious nutjobs ignore science though, it's what you do.

 

[HeyNorm]

It's no protection. Virus particles are not transported in droplets, they are propelled out, all on their own. We have decades of research that proves this.

You anti science, religious nutjobs ignore science though, it's what you do.

No, no, no, they must always be in water droplets so that morons have any semblance of an argument to make, an these water droplets hold the virus at gunpoint so the virus would never leave these droplets, even if the droplets get ripped apart when exiting a mask!

 

[Billy_Bob]

And if you insisted the surgeon wore a mask that stoped the migration of viral infections it would do no good as well because the webbing in the mask would have to be woven so tightly, the surgeon and staff would suffocate.

One of the projects I worked on was Helicopter Operations in a Toxic Environment, Specifically the Apachee. We used compressors to push air through adequate filtration to supply the cabin crew and space from becoming contaminated.

This is also the reason biological labs working with these viruses used compressed air full body suits. They pressurize the air around the body so that any leak keeps the virus from entering the suit (PPE).

These drones don't have a damn clue what lies they are spewing.. Or maybe they do, and it is intentional..

 

[Dagosa]

Again, ignores science, doesn’t read links and remains ignorant to real science. Being a partisan is really a not so smart way to live but you can’t fix stupid. Feel free to wear your masks around Covid-19 infected people, you can’t possibly get it.

Ha ha. It’s not you so have the wear the mask….ITS THE INFECTED PEOPLE WHO SHOULD WEAR THE MASK. If it’s a high infection rate area and many people are not symptomatic, everyone should wear a mask. Otherwise, get vaccinated.

Its called source protection.

 

[Dagosa]

One of the projects I worked on was Helicopter Operations in a Toxic Environment, Specifically the Apachee. We used compressors to push air through adequate filtration to supply the cabin crew and space from becoming contaminated.

This is also the reason biological labs working with these viruses used compressed air full body suits. They pressurize the air around the body so that any leak keeps the virus from entering the suit (PPE).

These drones don't have a damn clue what lies they are spewing.. Or maybe they do, and it is intentional..

They had covid then ? What’s your point ?

 

[HeyNorm]

Ha ha. It’s not you so have the wear the mask….ITS THE INFECTED PEOPLE WHO SHOULD WEAR THE MASK. If it’s a high infection rate area and many people are not symptomatic, everyone should wear a mask. Otherwise, get vaccinated.

Its called source protection.

So a mask you bought at quicky mart for $5.89 is going to provide all the protection that an N95?

You realize how stupid this sounds yet?