we need to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Medicare For All, my friends

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The means of production is owned and controled by the gov, said many ways but thats it's meaning and without that there is no socialism or communism

very stupid of course: "You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country," Sanders told John Harwood of NBC

Do you really think Sanders only wants government to own and control the means to produce deodorant?????????

Do you know if you are lying to yourself as well as us????????????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

"Democratic socialism, Sanders said, is not tied to any Marxist belief or the abolition of capitalism. “I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,”

He obviously lied rather than come out as a socialist. Do you think Hitler Stalin and Mao told the truth to get elected or supported??

When Elizabeth Warren was hot, Sanders was asked for difference between them. He said, "she has said she is a capitalist to her bones, I am not."

"You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country," Sanders told John Harwood of NBC

In 1980 he was an “elector” in the Socialist Workers Party (founded by communists expelled from Russia for supporting Leon Trotsky).

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Without the means of production owned by the gov there is no socialism of communism

Sanders has said he wants that but often backs up and lies because he knows Americans are freedom loving capitalists and must be transitioned slowly. Is this concept really over your head?? It seems as if you are trying to appear as stupid?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

These haters run on bullshit and lies in fact it is totally clear by their God and leader that without lies and distortions your party couldn't or wouldn't exist .

can you tell us the most obvious lie?? How will you learn if you are afraid to try??

 

[jbander]

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can

yes USA has most expensive socialist health care in world. We should switch to capitalism to reduce prices about 80%. Imagine shopping with your own money, published prices, and providers competing for your business on basis of price and quality?

Got a question for you ace ,when was the last time someone came up to you and said ,you know it would be a good idea if government took over and ran all the businesses in this country and took charge of the sale of all their products. Never happened and it never will happen, Capitalism is the way , even with all it's sins. Only the braindead stupid red necks here this there is communism and socialism in this country, By they way ace without The means of production Marx went this way "The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved." Lenin and Stalin Did much to direct the course of socialism and communism "
"Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs. Communism and socialism are umbrella terms referring to two left-wing schools of economic thought; both oppose capitalism, but socialism predates the "Communist Manifesto," an 1848 pamphlet by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, by a few decades.




In a purely socialist system, all legal production and distribution decisions are made by the government, and individuals rely on the state for everything from food to healthcare. The government determines the output and pricing levels of these goods and services.




Socialists contend that shared ownership of resources and central planning provide a more equal distribution of goods and services and a more equitable society." From the investapedia. You haters out their don't get your own definition of socialism or communism , they already have a definition and that definitions says your definition is complete ignorant stupidity. You don't want to give this one up though , do you , this is your best hate comment. What a fricken hoot.

 

[jbander]

These haters run on bullshit and lies in fact it is totally clear by their God and leader that without lies and distortions your party couldn't or wouldn't exist .

can you tell us the most obvious lie?? How will you learn if you are afraid to try??

Most obvious and stupidest lie is that communism and socialism exist in this country, Now that is brain dead stupid. You will fight to their death to keep this lie , it's your best hate comment.

 

[jbander]

"Democratic socialism, Sanders said, is not tied to any Marxist belief or the abolition of capitalism. “I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,”

He obviously lied rather than come out as a socialist. Do you think Hitler Stalin and Mao told the truth to get elected or supported??

When Elizabeth Warren was hot, Sanders was asked for difference between them. He said, "she has said she is a capitalist to her bones, I am not."

"You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country," Sanders told John Harwood of NBC

In 1980 he was an “elector” in the Socialist Workers Party (founded by communists expelled from Russia for supporting Leon Trotsky).

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

I apreciate you showing your ignorance and rambling , my position is only supported by lies and your hate driven opinions.

 

[jbander]

"Democratic socialism, Sanders said, is not tied to any Marxist belief or the abolition of capitalism. “I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,”

He obviously lied rather than come out as a socialist. Do you think Hitler Stalin and Mao told the truth to get elected or supported??

When Elizabeth Warren was hot, Sanders was asked for difference between them. He said, "she has said she is a capitalist to her bones, I am not."

"You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country," Sanders told John Harwood of NBC

In 1980 he was an “elector” in the Socialist Workers Party (founded by communists expelled from Russia for supporting Leon Trotsky).

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

"Democratic socialism, Sanders said, is not tied to any Marxist belief or the abolition of capitalism. “I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,”

 

[jbander]

"Democratic socialism, Sanders said, is not tied to any Marxist belief or the abolition of capitalism. “I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,”

He obviously lied rather than come out as a socialist. Do you think Hitler Stalin and Mao told the truth to get elected or supported??

When Elizabeth Warren was hot, Sanders was asked for difference between them. He said, "she has said she is a capitalist to her bones, I am not."

"You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country," Sanders told John Harwood of NBC

In 1980 he was an “elector” in the Socialist Workers Party (founded by communists expelled from Russia for supporting Leon Trotsky).

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

"Democratic socialism, Sanders said, is not tied to any Marxist belief or the abolition of capitalism. “I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,”

His words I support 100% and see it as the total diferenece between the Dems and your hate party, HE believes that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,” You haters don't.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can

yes USA has most expensive socialist health care in world. We should switch to capitalism to reduce prices about 80%. Imagine shopping with your own money, published prices, and providers competing for your business on basis of price and quality?

Got a question for you ace ,when was the last time someone came up to you and said ,you know it would be a good idea if government took over and ran all the businesses in this country and took charge of the sale of all their products. Never happened and it never will happen, Capitalism is the way , even with all it's sins. Only the braindead stupid red necks here this there is communism and socialism in this country, By they way ace without The means of production Marx went this way "The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved." Lenin and Stalin Did much to direct the course of socialism and communism "
"Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs. Communism and socialism are umbrella terms referring to two left-wing schools of economic thought; both oppose capitalism, but socialism predates the "Communist Manifesto," an 1848 pamphlet by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, by a few decades.




In a purely socialist system, all legal production and distribution decisions are made by the government, and individuals rely on the state for everything from food to healthcare. The government determines the output and pricing levels of these goods and services.




Socialists contend that shared ownership of resources and central planning provide a more equal distribution of goods and services and a more equitable society." From the investapedia. You haters out their don't get your own definition of socialism or communism , they already have a definition and that definitions says your definition is complete ignorant stupidity. You don't want to give this one up though , do you , this is your best hate comment. What a fricken hoot.

Here’s the answer to your elementary question. The last time someone suggested the government controls the means of production was when Bernie Sanders and AOC, Biden advisors, Open their mouth’s. Do you have any more questions that are as profound as that one?

 

[Dagosa]

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can

yes USA has most expensive socialist health care in world. We should switch to capitalism to reduce prices about 80%. Imagine shopping with your own money, published prices, and providers competing for your business on basis of price and quality?

Got a question for you ace ,when was the last time someone came up to you and said ,you know it would be a good idea if government took over and ran all the businesses in this country and took charge of the sale of all their products. Never happened and it never will happen, Capitalism is the way , even with all it's sins. Only the braindead stupid red necks here this there is communism and socialism in this country, By they way ace without The means of production Marx went this way "The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved." Lenin and Stalin Did much to direct the course of socialism and communism "
"Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs. Communism and socialism are umbrella terms referring to two left-wing schools of economic thought; both oppose capitalism, but socialism predates the "Communist Manifesto," an 1848 pamphlet by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, by a few decades.




In a purely socialist system, all legal production and distribution decisions are made by the government, and individuals rely on the state for everything from food to healthcare. The government determines the output and pricing levels of these goods and services.




Socialists contend that shared ownership of resources and central planning provide a more equal distribution of goods and services and a more equitable society." From the investapedia. You haters out their don't get your own definition of socialism or communism , they already have a definition and that definitions says your definition is complete ignorant stupidity. You don't want to give this one up though , do you , this is your best hate comment. What a fricken hoot.

Got an answer for you ace. Now just shut the fuck up about why we need non profit healthcare dufus. We have non profit for many public services. It’s less expensive with better outcomes.

The United States currently ranks highest in healthcare spending among the developed nations of the world. According to data released by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) in 2018 (the latest for which figures were available), the U.S. rate was a staggering $10,000 per capita.Sep 28, 2019

 

[Dagosa]

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can

yes USA has most expensive socialist health care in world. We should switch to capitalism to reduce prices about 80%. Imagine shopping with your own money, published prices, and providers competing for your business on basis of price and quality?

Got a question for you ace ,when was the last time someone came up to you and said ,you know it would be a good idea if government took over and ran all the businesses in this country and took charge of the sale of all their products. Never happened and it never will happen, Capitalism is the way , even with all it's sins. Only the braindead stupid red necks here this there is communism and socialism in this country, By they way ace without The means of production Marx went this way "The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved." Lenin and Stalin Did much to direct the course of socialism and communism "
"Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs. Communism and socialism are umbrella terms referring to two left-wing schools of economic thought; both oppose capitalism, but socialism predates the "Communist Manifesto," an 1848 pamphlet by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, by a few decades.




In a purely socialist system, all legal production and distribution decisions are made by the government, and individuals rely on the state for everything from food to healthcare. The government determines the output and pricing levels of these goods and services.




Socialists contend that shared ownership of resources and central planning provide a more equal distribution of goods and services and a more equitable society." From the investapedia. You haters out their don't get your own definition of socialism or communism , they already have a definition and that definitions says your definition is complete ignorant stupidity. You don't want to give this one up though , do you , this is your best hate comment. What a fricken hoot.

I have never seen anyone so enamored by fascist dictators then Trump and his minions. You pigeons as so enamored by every “ism” in your name calling, it’s hard to keep up with you. Seriously, when you guys get on your “ism” rants, no one of any consequence is reading it. Marxism, communism, socialism.........and now whine”ism” from Trump and his minions.

 

[jbander]

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can

yes USA has most expensive socialist health care in world. We should switch to capitalism to reduce prices about 80%. Imagine shopping with your own money, published prices, and providers competing for your business on basis of price and quality?

Got a question for you ace ,when was the last time someone came up to you and said ,you know it would be a good idea if government took over and ran all the businesses in this country and took charge of the sale of all their products. Never happened and it never will happen, Capitalism is the way , even with all it's sins. Only the braindead stupid red necks here this there is communism and socialism in this country, By they way ace without The means of production Marx went this way "The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved." Lenin and Stalin Did much to direct the course of socialism and communism "
"Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs. Communism and socialism are umbrella terms referring to two left-wing schools of economic thought; both oppose capitalism, but socialism predates the "Communist Manifesto," an 1848 pamphlet by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, by a few decades.




In a purely socialist system, all legal production and distribution decisions are made by the government, and individuals rely on the state for everything from food to healthcare. The government determines the output and pricing levels of these goods and services.




Socialists contend that shared ownership of resources and central planning provide a more equal distribution of goods and services and a more equitable society." From the investapedia. You haters out their don't get your own definition of socialism or communism , they already have a definition and that definitions says your definition is complete ignorant stupidity. You don't want to give this one up though , do you , this is your best hate comment. What a fricken hoot.

Here’s the answer to your elementary question. The last time someone suggested the government controls the means of production was when Bernie Sanders and AOC, Biden advisors, Open their mouth’s. Do you have any more questions that are as profound as that one?

Heres the question I asked him, he says they want all the means of production in this country to be run and owned by the government ,"Got a question for you ace ,when was the last time someone came up to you and said ,you know it would be a good idea if government took over and ran all the businesses in this country and took charge of the sale of all their products. Never happened and it never will happen, Capitalism is the way , even with all it's sins. Only the braindead stupid red necks here this there is communism and socialism in this country," MAYBE YOU WOULD WANT TO BACK UP YOUR BULLSHIT< THE QUESTION IS RIGHT THERE ACE < AS IT HAS BEEN RIGHT ALONG < THERe IS NO ONE ADVICATING FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND THIS COUNTRY< SAYING THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD OWN AND RUN ALL BUSIBNESSES IN THIS COUNTRY < THIS GUY IS BLITHERING IDIOT< WHO IN NO WAY CAN BACK UP HIS WORDS. I'll tell you what people this hate group is closer to being Nazi's then the democrats are to being socialist.

 

[jbander]

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can

yes USA has most expensive socialist health care in world. We should switch to capitalism to reduce prices about 80%. Imagine shopping with your own money, published prices, and providers competing for your business on basis of price and quality?

Got a question for you ace ,when was the last time someone came up to you and said ,you know it would be a good idea if government took over and ran all the businesses in this country and took charge of the sale of all their products. Never happened and it never will happen, Capitalism is the way , even with all it's sins. Only the braindead stupid red necks here this there is communism and socialism in this country, By they way ace without The means of production Marx went this way "The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved." Lenin and Stalin Did much to direct the course of socialism and communism "
"Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs. Communism and socialism are umbrella terms referring to two left-wing schools of economic thought; both oppose capitalism, but socialism predates the "Communist Manifesto," an 1848 pamphlet by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, by a few decades.




In a purely socialist system, all legal production and distribution decisions are made by the government, and individuals rely on the state for everything from food to healthcare. The government determines the output and pricing levels of these goods and services.




Socialists contend that shared ownership of resources and central planning provide a more equal distribution of goods and services and a more equitable society." From the investapedia. You haters out their don't get your own definition of socialism or communism , they already have a definition and that definitions says your definition is complete ignorant stupidity. You don't want to give this one up though , do you , this is your best hate comment. What a fricken hoot.

Got an answer for you ace. Now just shut the fuck up about why we need non profit healthcare dufus. We have non profit for many public services. It’s less expensive with better outcomes.
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The United States currently ranks highest in healthcare spending among the developed nations of the world. According to data released by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) in 2018 (the latest for which figures were available), the U.S. rate was a staggering $10,000 per capita.Sep 28, 2019

What the hell is this. If that's to me it makes zero sense.

 

[jbander]

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can

yes USA has most expensive socialist health care in world. We should switch to capitalism to reduce prices about 80%. Imagine shopping with your own money, published prices, and providers competing for your business on basis of price and quality?

Got a question for you ace ,when was the last time someone came up to you and said ,you know it would be a good idea if government took over and ran all the businesses in this country and took charge of the sale of all their products. Never happened and it never will happen, Capitalism is the way , even with all it's sins. Only the braindead stupid red necks here this there is communism and socialism in this country, By they way ace without The means of production Marx went this way "The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved." Lenin and Stalin Did much to direct the course of socialism and communism "
"Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs. Communism and socialism are umbrella terms referring to two left-wing schools of economic thought; both oppose capitalism, but socialism predates the "Communist Manifesto," an 1848 pamphlet by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, by a few decades.




In a purely socialist system, all legal production and distribution decisions are made by the government, and individuals rely on the state for everything from food to healthcare. The government determines the output and pricing levels of these goods and services.




Socialists contend that shared ownership of resources and central planning provide a more equal distribution of goods and services and a more equitable society." From the investapedia. You haters out their don't get your own definition of socialism or communism , they already have a definition and that definitions says your definition is complete ignorant stupidity. You don't want to give this one up though , do you , this is your best hate comment. What a fricken hoot.

I have never seen anyone so enamored by fascist dictators then Trump and his minions. You pigeons as so enamored by every “ism” in your name calling, it’s hard to keep up with you. Seriously, when you guys get on your “ism” rants, no one of any consequence is reading it. Marxism, communism, socialism.........and now whine”ism” from Trump and his minions.

Well I looked at the comment you are responding to, it was put together very poorly, that goes with my mind and can't be helped but didn't my comment saying there is no such thing as communism or socialism in this country give it away.

 

[Dick Foster]

whose with me?

I'm not because what we really need to do is end ALL government involvement in healthcare medicare included and make selling healthcare insurance illegal for the RIPoff fraud it really is.
That would put healthcare back to where it was before it was broken and turned into the criminal enterprise that it is today. The costs would come crashing back to earth. And the quality of care would increase because providers would again have to appeal to the patients care and happiness instead of milking some bullshit system that couldn't care less about quality or results in order to pay off.
Any fool can put it together. It's rudimentary cause and effect.

We used to do that. Insurance companies don’t want to insure old people and they were dying everywhere for things like the common cold. The life expectancy for 65 year olds went from 73 before to 84 the decades following. We have added 10 years Of life to retirees around the introduction of Medicare.

Bullshit!. My grand father died at 99 and my father in his nineties too, my great grandmother was over a hundred. This just an example of the kind of smoke that's being blown up your ass and you're just stupid and gullible enough to fall for it. If anything people are likely dying earlier from all of the crap in our diets.

 

[Dick Foster]

whose with me?

I'm not because what we really need to do is end ALL government involvement in healthcare medicare included and make selling healthcare insurance illegal for the RIPoff fraud it really is.
That would put healthcare back to where it was before it was broken and turned into the criminal enterprise that it is today. The costs would come crashing back to earth. And the quality of care would increase because providers would again have to appeal to the patients care and happiness instead of milking some bullshit system that couldn't care less about quality or results in order to pay off.
Any fool can put it together. It's rudimentary cause and effect.

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can sponsor more golf tournaments ?
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Listen stupid, I was actually there when we had 100% private healthcare so don't try blowing that collective smoke up my ass because I'm not buying into it. Not ever. And I highly doubt you've actually seen or experenced anything.
Socialism doesn't not work, has never worked and never will work, not on any level, in any way, not ever. Every single solitary experiment in socialism without exception to date has either failed or is failing as we speak.
Get a friggin clue, dumbass!

 

[Dagosa]

whose with me?

I'm not because what we really need to do is end ALL government involvement in healthcare medicare included and make selling healthcare insurance illegal for the RIPoff fraud it really is.
That would put healthcare back to where it was before it was broken and turned into the criminal enterprise that it is today. The costs would come crashing back to earth. And the quality of care would increase because providers would again have to appeal to the patients care and happiness instead of milking some bullshit system that couldn't care less about quality or results in order to pay off.
Any fool can put it together. It's rudimentary cause and effect.

Every country with universal healthcare has cheaper expenses pe capita and they have better health outcomes. WTF do you want to pay profits to HI companies ? So they can sponsor more golf tournaments ?
View attachment 362506

Listen stupid, I was actually there when we had 100% private healthcare so don't try blowing that collective smoke up my ass because I'm not buying into it. Not ever. And I highly doubt you've actually seen or experenced anything.
Socialism doesn't not work, has never worked and never will work, not on any level, in any way, not ever. Every single solitary experiment in socialism without exception to date has either failed or is failing as we speak.
Get a friggin clue, dumbass!

Socialism doesn’t work ? You’re clueless. Medicare works for the elderly...it always has. It dramatically helped increase the life of those over 65. With just private, more people died.
Socialism.... Scary word. You know what’s scarier ? Bankruptcy....unpaid medical bills are the biggest cause.
now, throw-in fascism so you can be more afraid.


btw, we pay more in healthcare with private insurance then any where else in the world. The US pays more then every other country. You saw the references

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

didn't my comment saying there is no such thing as communism or socialism in this country give it away.

give what away? that you are slow? Yes, but we already know that. And??????????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Socialism doesn’t work ? You’re clueless. Medicare works for the elderly...

OMG!! Totally stupid and liberal! It works if you don't mind paying 4 times more than you should! Ask recipients how'd they'd like to get the same care and get a check each year for $8000 from cutting out the bureaucratic monopolistic socialist waste in the system. How can America survive when this level of intelligence is loose in our electorate????