We need to change tipping culture

[AZrailwhale]

10%??? I frequent the Golden Corral buffet on N. Division in Spokane Wa.

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As can be seen in the link above the GC is a typical buffet, like no dining @ Ankeny's on the Rid-Path Roof under the stars type atmosphere. A typical all one can eat breakfast/lunch costs me roughly $13.50 with coffee & cream. I leave a $5.00 tip for the waiter/waitress in question which seems a fair tip to me despite the fact that I fetch my own plates of food . At 10% of 13.50 = $1.35 for a tip to me if I was a waiter that would be like a slap in the face. One must remember that there remains an "interface" between waiter/waitress & customer meaning there is a chance to enhance the all critical RESPECT/ADMIRATION between fellow Americans.

For what I am paid hourly a five dollar tip comes up to somewhere around 12/13 minutes of pay. As far as I can see it if I can't afford a decent tip to an employed fellow American doing his/her best to make sure I am having a relaxing/quality time then I should pass on the buffet & just make my own chow @ home.

What does a server do at a buffet to deserve a tip? You get your own food, your own utensils and your own drinks. All the server does is to buss tables.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What does a server do at a buffet to deserve a tip? You get your own food, your own utensils and your own drinks. All the server does is to buss tables.

Not at my Golden Corral.

 

[Oddball]

How bout we do this?
No tips above 10 percent. A tip is just a nice addition to the meal to acknowledge a pleasant server or service above and beyond normal. Tip based on the performance of the server, not the price of the meal.
Server does not work harder to deliver a prime steak or a burger and fries

But tipping culture is out of hand. Tips start at 20 percent and it is the customer responsible for the livelihood of the server. Leaving a bad tip is taking food out of the mouths of their family. I am already paying for the food, restaurant rent, advertising, insurance, taxes…….why am I expected to pay the salary of someone who works for YOU?

******* stiff

 

[Muhammed]

Their employers should reward them

They already do. You should too, ungrateful bastard.

 

[longly]

I realize not everyone is as well off as I am. I'm not saying I'm rich, but I'm doing okay, and I know people in my neighborhood who aren't. However, I have a very modest nature. When we go out, we almost never choose a sit-down restaurant. I usually go to places like Popeyes or Burger King, and I always tip the person at the window—just a dollar. But I figure if everyone who could afford it did the same, it would help that person at least a little, maybe even quite a bit. It's the kind of thing I believe God wants us to do, so I try to do it.

 

[rightwinger]

They already do. You should too, ungrateful bastard.

Employers have shifted the paying of servers to the patrons
A tip should be a small thank-you
You shouldn’t be shamed because your tip has to pay their bills

 

[braalian]

When did tipping cashiers become a thing?

Wait staff? Sure. Delivery guys? Of course.
But tipping the kid at the cash register in a fast food joint is going too far

 

[braalian]

They already do. You should too, ungrateful bastard.

Reward them with what? Shit wages?

 

[rightwinger]

When did tipping cashiers become a thing?

Wait staff? Sure. Delivery guys? Of course.
But tipping the kid at the cash register in a fast food joint is going too far

I never minded throwing my change into a jar
But when you pay by card and it prompts you to tip 20 percent it becomes absurd

 

[rightwinger]

Another thing I don’t get is tipping the owner
Small, family owned business where the owner brings your food.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Why can’t they just pay a decent wage, raise the prices of their meals accordingly, and relieve us of having to do a lot of higher math after a lavish meal?

I agree about the decent wages, but raising the price is where your train jumps the track in my opinion when food is already getting so expensive.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[petro]

It has got out of control.
Even the local gas station has a tip jar where you get your propane tank refilled.
Gimme a break.

 

[petro]

Just wait...
It's only a matter of time...

 

[Foxfyre]

Why can’t they just pay a decent wage, raise the prices of their meals accordingly, and relieve us of having to do a lot of higher math after a lavish meal?

So what difference does it make to you? If you're paying pretty much the same amount anyway, why not just keep our tipping culture to encourage wait staff to actually provide good service in order to earn their income. Give me good service, make my dining experience pleasant, and you get a good tip. If you don't, not so much.

With no tip, we have no way to show our appreciation for good service. And there is no incentive for the lazy or indifferent to provide it beyond doing just enough to keep from being fired.

 

[Foxfyre]

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My American in-laws of Japanese descent went to Japan for some business. They dined in a restaurant and, forgetting that tipping is not customary, left their usual generous tip on the table. The restaurant owner came chasing after them when they left, to return the money they left on the table.

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Different country. Different culture. I generally take a pretty pragmatic view to these things. Tipping is common and expected in Canada and Mexico too. In Italy and France tipping is neither mandatory nor expected, but is allowed and appreciated for exceptional service. But you're right, tipping is not allowed in Japan.

We usually spend some time with the hotel concierge to get a sense of etiquette protocol and what is and is not expected when we don't already know. How much does the bellboy or valet expect as a tip, if any, etc.

Sure I suppose it would be convenient to live in a country without a tipping culture, but we don't here in the USA and I accept that as okay.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Different country. Different culture. I generally take a pretty pragmatic view to these things. Tipping is common and expected in Canada and Mexico too. In Italy and France tipping is neither mandatory nor expected, but is allowed and appreciated for exceptional service. But you're right, tipping is not allowed in Japan.

We usually spend some time with the hotel concierge to get a sense of etiquette protocol and what is and is not expected when we don't already know. How much does the bellboy or valet expect as a tip, if any, etc.

Sure I suppose it would be convenient to live in a country without a tipping culture, but we don't here in the USA and I accept that as okay.

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Great idea to rely on the concierge for such information.

I have never been one who traveled internationally, except to Canada and one trip to Northern England. I don't recall tipping protocol in England because my hosts treated for all meals out and hotel stays.


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[marvin martian]

Why should I be concerned if the servers children are eating that night?

I'm sure you're not.

 

[Foxfyre]

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Great idea to rely on the concierge for such information.

I have never been one who traveled internationally, except to Canada and one trip to Northern England. I don't recall tipping protocol in England because my hosts treated for all meals out and hotel stays.


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According to family who were in London recently, tipping is common and expected there but generally in somewhat lower amounts than what we Americans expect to tip. The tip is automatically included some places.

The hotel concierge in Vancouver valiantly tried to teach us the ins and outs of Canadian money but was unsuccessful LOL. We just trusted folks to charge us accurately. We probably overtipped a lot though.

At a blackjack table in Vegas one time, an Italian couple spoke pretty good English but were having a terrible time figuring out American money and translating that to the chips. A Japanese couple at the same table spoke pretty much no English but they had the money down just great.

Understanding currency is sort of important with tipping protocol but I guess we accept when we don't so oh well.

 

[MayorQuimby]

TIP ~ To Insure Promptness.

That's sad.

Whatever job I work at, I don't need a tip to be quick/prompt. It's called pride in your work.

I tip as a reward and because G-d demands I give charitably when I can.

God stfu you Toronto *****.

.I tip generously when the service warrants it, and not at all when the service sucks.

I only tip as an insurance that they won't spit in my food. Its how bad the tipping culture has become.

And I have been to a couple of places where, if you do not tip generously, you are not asked to come back.

I knew of a few places like that. Indeed I am never going back, and the bitter taste they left in my mouth, is still lingering to this day.

Are you serious?.... servers take minimum wage jobs so they survive on tips... if I get a great server I give them 25% minimum... at the club I give up to 30% because I see them work their butts off... something that is foreign to you no doubt...

Tipping should be voluntary. One should not be guilt-tripped or shamed into tipping.

A bad, indifferent, surly waiter doesn't get a 20% tip from us. He/she is lucky to get that 10%.

A bad server gets 0% tip from me, and maybe a nice big helping of complaint to the manager if I am having a bad case of PMS that day.

If eating out is important enough, but you don't want to leave a tip, that is why God invented fast food.

Tipping should be voluntary. One should not be guilt-tripped or shamed into tipping.

Our son is one of those really lavish tippers and whenever they go to a restaurant they usually frequent, the staff falls all over themselves trying to get them to a table they will be working. And they get lavish service.

Which the servers ought to be ashamed about. They need the incentive of a tip in order to want to do a good job.

I agree, but as it stands the servers rely on our tips.

If a server cannot survive on the wage she makes, she should get a better job, instead of trying to guilt-trip people into sustaining her.

She knew about the shit wage when she took the job.

They already do. You should too, ungrateful bastard.

It is totally the responsibility of a restaurant patron to make sure that servers can live.

I'm sure you're not.

And he shouldn't. Why should he care whether some random stranger's children might have food to eat or not, when all he wants to do is go out and have a nice meal?

 

[Rambunctious]

That's sad.

Whatever job I work at, I don't need a tip to be quick/prompt. It's called pride in your work.


God stfu you Toronto *****.


I only tip as an insurance that they won't spit in my food. Its how bad the tipping culture has become.




I knew of a few places like that. Indeed I am never going back, and the bitter taste they left in my mouth, is still lingering to this day.


Tipping should be voluntary. One should not be guilt-tripped or shamed into tipping.





A bad server gets 0% tip from me, and maybe a nice big helping of complaint to the manager if I am having a bad case of PMS that day.


Tipping should be voluntary. One should not be guilt-tripped or shamed into tipping.




Which the servers ought to be ashamed about. They need the incentive of a tip in order to want to do a good job.



If a server cannot survive on the wage she makes, she should get a better job, instead of trying to guilt-trip people into sustaining her.

She knew about the shit wage when she took the job.



It is totally the responsibility of a restaurant patron to make sure that servers can live.



And he shouldn't. Why should he care whether some random stranger's children might have food to eat or not, when all he wants to do is go out and have a nice meal?

Tipping in many restaurants is not voluntary... its added to your bill especially when you have a large group of people... If you are not willing to tip the waitstaff then eat at home... this isn't 1955...