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We have George Washington's house to prove he was real. We have photos of dead people to prove they were real. The cultists don't even know where the alleged tomb of Jesus was. Never mind that he was real and resurrected.
And we have 24,000 written manuscripts, the first Christian’s who witnessed the miracles and resurrected Christ as described in those texts worshipping Jesus as God, the Babylonian Talmud which recorded Jesus was put to death for sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy which confirm those texts and non-Christian historians that recorded the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

All of which is evidence.
 
We have George Washington's house to prove he was real. We have photos of dead people to prove they were real. The cultists don't even know where the alleged tomb of Jesus was. Never mind that he was real and resurrected.
Do you know what evidence you don’t have? You don’t have any accounts which refute the miracles performed by Christ. You don’t have any accounts which refute Christ wasn’t resurrected. You don’t have any evidence the first Christians didn’t worship Jesus as God. And you don’t have evidence that refutes the Babylonian Talmud’s claim that Jesus was put to death for sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy.
 
I’m skeptical that you were taught that you don’t need evidence to support a belief in graduate school.
When one has belief its called a hypothesis. That leads to research which collects evidence and will prove or fail to prove it as fact.
I clearly stated you dont need evidence to support a belief thats been my point all along.
 
Maybe read the accounts? But does that even matter. The evidence (accounts by non-Christian historians) shows the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God. They didn’t do that because of why he came. They did that because he performed miracles and rose from the dead.

It is 100% accurate that the first Christian’s worshipped Jesus as God.
So?
 
When one has belief its called a hypothesis. That leads to research which collects evidence and will prove or fail to prove it as fact.
I clearly stated you dont need evidence to support a belief thats been my point all along.
Then you must believe things for no good reason at all. I don’t do that. Faith is having complete trust in someone or something. I never put complete trust in someone or something without good reason.

As such I never have a problem correcting the errors of people who believe things for no good reason.
 
And we have 24,000 written manuscripts, the first Christian’s who witnessed the miracles and resurrected Christ as described in those texts worshipping Jesus as God, the Babylonian Talmud which recorded Jesus was put to death for sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy which confirm those texts and non-Christian historians that recorded the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

All of which is evidence.
Manuscripts sounds really fancy but all you have are writings by UNKNOWN people decades and even more than a century later with the only exception being the fraud wannabe apostle Paul and scholars say half of those are not his.
 
Manuscripts sounds really fancy but all you have are writings by UNKNOWN people decades and even more than a century later with the only exception being the fraud wannabe apostle Paul and scholars say half of those are not his.
Coupled with the evidence of the first Christians worshipping Jesus as God, those texts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

That’s called corroborating evidence.
 
Do you know what evidence you don’t have? You don’t have any accounts which refute the miracles performed by Christ. You don’t have any accounts which refute Christ wasn’t resurrected. You don’t have any evidence the first Christians didn’t worship Jesus as God. And you don’t have evidence that refutes the Babylonian Talmud’s claim that Jesus was put to death for sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy.
How could anyone have accounts to refute "miracles" that weren't written about until decades later, and then third hand. What would there be to refute? Someone is supposed to refute something they know nothing about?

PS. Do you have accounts that say Mohammed was not whisked to heaven on a winged creature? If not, why don't you believe those claims?
 
Then you must believe things for no good reason at all. I don’t do that. Faith is having complete trust in someone or something. I never put complete trust in someone or something without good reason.

As such I never have a problem correcting the errors of people who believe things for no good reason.
You have faith because you like the story and want it to be true.
 
How could anyone have accounts to refute "miracles" that weren't written about until decades later, and then third hand. What would there be to refute? Someone is supposed to refute something they know nothing about?

PS. Do you have accounts that say Mohammed was not whisked to heaven on a winged creature? If not, why don't you believe those claims?
Because the evidence shows the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God. That’s how.
 
Coupled with the evidence of the first Christians worshipping Jesus as God, those texts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

That’s called corroborating evidence.
That actually is not true. It wasn't until 325 years later that HUMANS proclaimed that Jesus was not "just" a son by a piece of Wrigley's chewing gum....three flavors in one.

As stories spread, he became more and more important and super human, like some military general who dies in combat and popelike up stories about how he killed hundreds and survived until peace was declared.
 
In what regard? Certainly, writings by unknown decades and centuries after that time doesn't qualify as evidence.
In the regard that 24,000 written manuscripts detailed why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God as recorded by non-Christian historians and collaborated by the Babylonian Talmud.
 
Because the evidence shows the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God. That’s how.
Even if they did, that means nothing. But they didn't. They were cajoled and convinced he was divine by cagey people, like Paul. Many people have been worshiped throughout history, including Mohammed and many emperors and kings. To assert that he was "god" because people in hyper religious times believed that is juvenile.
 
In the regard that 24,000 written manuscripts detailed why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God as recorded by non-Christian historians and collaborated by the Babylonian Talmud.
It is irrelevant. Based on your reasoning that makes Islam true.
 
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That actually is not true. It wasn't until 325 years later that HUMANS proclaimed that Jesus was not "just" a son by a piece of Wrigley's chewing gum....three flavors in one.

As stories spread, he became more and more important and super human, like some military general who dies in combat and popelike up stories about how he killed hundreds and survived until peace was declared.
Every piece of evidence I have presented is 100% true.

The first Christians did worship Jesus as God.

The 24,000 written manuscripts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The Babylonian Talmud confirmed Jesus performed miracles and and made blasphemous claims so he was put to death for sorcery and inciting apostasy.
 
It is irrelevant. Based on your reasoning that makes Islam true.
Incorrect. You are using flawed logic to dismiss the evidence.

The first Christians did worship Jesus as God.

The 24,000 written manuscripts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The Babylonian Talmud confirmed Jesus performed miracles and and made blasphemous claims so he was put to death for sorcery and inciting apostasy.
 
Then you must believe things for no good reason at all. I don’t do that. Faith is having complete trust in someone or something. I never put complete trust in someone or something without good reason.

As such I never have a problem correcting the errors of people who believe things for no good reason.
It isnt reason its emotion that determines your beliefs. Emotions determine what you think you know. Reason in this psychological context is emotion its not rational thought.
 
It isnt reason its emotion that determines your beliefs. Emotions determine what you think you know. Reason in this psychological context is emotion its not rational thought.
And yet my belief that Jesus is God Incarnate is based upon evidence and my belief that God can be known by studying his creation is based upon reason.
 
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