We Have the Right to Assemble and Freedom of Religion - Unlawful Arrest of Preacher

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Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa................... so much for that non judging 'eh suzy Q? again - you give false equivalencies.

Jackboots Karen is fine with cultish religions as long as the Talking Points Spitters tell her they're kinda groovy and okay. JW are somehow okay even though she won't get birthdays or holidays...or blood transfusions. Which is very unscientific but Karen is not one to ask any questions

^^^ full tilt cray cray ^^^

 

[SweetSue92]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

you still didn't answer the factual articles i posted, chicken shit. oh - why not start calling me 'boomer' too - cause that would carry as much weight as 'karen'.

It doesn't matter what factual articles you posted. I have my own factual articles I posted which don't hide your hypocrisy. If the health and wellbeing of others supersede the individual rights of Americans outlined it the Constitution, and this is your stance, then don't be a total hypocrite. Live by it.

lol... no you don't. soooooooooo............. guess that means you have nuthin' to show but yer hurt feelins'.

You think that individuals' rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, should be set aside for the health and wellbeing of others. Well goody, I have a whole long list of stuff you must attend to. Starting with not eating milk, soy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, shellfish and eggs in public. Or wearing fragrances.

 

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People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

you still didn't answer the factual articles i posted, chicken shit. oh - why not start calling me 'boomer' too - cause that would carry as much weight as 'karen'.

It doesn't matter what factual articles you posted. I have my own factual articles I posted which don't hide your hypocrisy. If the health and wellbeing of others supersede the individual rights of Americans outlined it the Constitution, and this is your stance, then don't be a total hypocrite. Live by it.

lol... no you don't. soooooooooo............. guess that means you have nuthin' to show but yer hurt feelins'.

You think that individuals' rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, should be set aside for the health and wellbeing of others. Well goody, I have a whole long list of stuff you must attend to. Starting with not eating milk, soy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, shellfish and eggs in public. Or wearing fragrances.

false equivalency.

 

[SweetSue92]

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa................... so much for that non judging 'eh suzy Q? again - you give false equivalencies.

Jackboots Karen is fine with cultish religions as long as the Talking Points Spitters tell her they're kinda groovy and okay. JW are somehow okay even though she won't get birthdays or holidays...or blood transfusions. Which is very unscientific but Karen is not one to ask any questions

^^^ full tilt cray cray ^^^

Jackboots Karen, your Jehovah's Witness cult of cool people are facing a Grand Jury of sexual abuse cover up not seen since the Catholic Church. So, of course you think they're "cool"

Grand jury investigators are ‘dead serious’ about revealing sexual-abuse cover-ups among Jehovah’s Witnesses

Former Jehovah’s Witnesses who have testified before a state grand jury say investigators are seeking to shatter the wall of secrecy around the religion’s leaders and their response to sex abuse complaints.

www.inquirer.com

 

[SweetSue92]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

you still didn't answer the factual articles i posted, chicken shit. oh - why not start calling me 'boomer' too - cause that would carry as much weight as 'karen'.

It doesn't matter what factual articles you posted. I have my own factual articles I posted which don't hide your hypocrisy. If the health and wellbeing of others supersede the individual rights of Americans outlined it the Constitution, and this is your stance, then don't be a total hypocrite. Live by it.

lol... no you don't. soooooooooo............. guess that means you have nuthin' to show but yer hurt feelins'.

You think that individuals' rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, should be set aside for the health and wellbeing of others. Well goody, I have a whole long list of stuff you must attend to. Starting with not eating milk, soy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, shellfish and eggs in public. Or wearing fragrances.

false equivalency.

Just saying it does not make it so, dearheart.

 

[playtime]

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa................... so much for that non judging 'eh suzy Q? again - you give false equivalencies.

Jackboots Karen is fine with cultish religions as long as the Talking Points Spitters tell her they're kinda groovy and okay. JW are somehow okay even though she won't get birthdays or holidays...or blood transfusions. Which is very unscientific but Karen is not one to ask any questions

^^^ full tilt cray cray ^^^

Jackboots Karen, your Jehovah's Witness cult of cool people are facing a Grand Jury of sexual abuse cover up not seen since the Catholic Church. So, of course you think they're "cool"

Grand jury investigators are ‘dead serious’ about revealing sexual-abuse cover-ups among Jehovah’s Witnesses

Former Jehovah’s Witnesses who have testified before a state grand jury say investigators are seeking to shatter the wall of secrecy around the religion’s leaders and their response to sex abuse complaints.

www.inquirer.com

uh-huh. your BP must be outa control. i know sick pedophiles come in all flavors.

got any more deflections?

 

[playtime]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

you still didn't answer the factual articles i posted, chicken shit. oh - why not start calling me 'boomer' too - cause that would carry as much weight as 'karen'.

It doesn't matter what factual articles you posted. I have my own factual articles I posted which don't hide your hypocrisy. If the health and wellbeing of others supersede the individual rights of Americans outlined it the Constitution, and this is your stance, then don't be a total hypocrite. Live by it.

lol... no you don't. soooooooooo............. guess that means you have nuthin' to show but yer hurt feelins'.

You think that individuals' rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, should be set aside for the health and wellbeing of others. Well goody, I have a whole long list of stuff you must attend to. Starting with not eating milk, soy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, shellfish and eggs in public. Or wearing fragrances.

false equivalency.

Just saying it does not make it so, dearheart.

except this time it applies.

 

[SweetSue92]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

you still didn't answer the factual articles i posted, chicken shit. oh - why not start calling me 'boomer' too - cause that would carry as much weight as 'karen'.

It doesn't matter what factual articles you posted. I have my own factual articles I posted which don't hide your hypocrisy. If the health and wellbeing of others supersede the individual rights of Americans outlined it the Constitution, and this is your stance, then don't be a total hypocrite. Live by it.

lol... no you don't. soooooooooo............. guess that means you have nuthin' to show but yer hurt feelins'.

You think that individuals' rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, should be set aside for the health and wellbeing of others. Well goody, I have a whole long list of stuff you must attend to. Starting with not eating milk, soy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, shellfish and eggs in public. Or wearing fragrances.

false equivalency.

Just saying it does not make it so, dearheart.

except this time it applies.

Just saying it is not an argument. Frankly, you're not smart enough to make the argument. I got it.

 

[playtime]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

you still didn't answer the factual articles i posted, chicken shit. oh - why not start calling me 'boomer' too - cause that would carry as much weight as 'karen'.

It doesn't matter what factual articles you posted. I have my own factual articles I posted which don't hide your hypocrisy. If the health and wellbeing of others supersede the individual rights of Americans outlined it the Constitution, and this is your stance, then don't be a total hypocrite. Live by it.

lol... no you don't. soooooooooo............. guess that means you have nuthin' to show but yer hurt feelins'.

You think that individuals' rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, should be set aside for the health and wellbeing of others. Well goody, I have a whole long list of stuff you must attend to. Starting with not eating milk, soy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, shellfish and eggs in public. Or wearing fragrances.

false equivalency.

Just saying it does not make it so, dearheart.

except this time it applies.

Just saying it is not an argument. Frankly, you're not smart enough to make the argument. I got it.

i got that you refuse to reply to the 2 articles i posted that completely blows yer reasoning right outa the water cause you know it & i know it.

& i ceratinly got the other diatribe you spew is just your desperation shining thru.

 

[SweetSue92]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

you still didn't answer the factual articles i posted, chicken shit. oh - why not start calling me 'boomer' too - cause that would carry as much weight as 'karen'.

It doesn't matter what factual articles you posted. I have my own factual articles I posted which don't hide your hypocrisy. If the health and wellbeing of others supersede the individual rights of Americans outlined it the Constitution, and this is your stance, then don't be a total hypocrite. Live by it.

lol... no you don't. soooooooooo............. guess that means you have nuthin' to show but yer hurt feelins'.

You think that individuals' rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, should be set aside for the health and wellbeing of others. Well goody, I have a whole long list of stuff you must attend to. Starting with not eating milk, soy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, shellfish and eggs in public. Or wearing fragrances.

false equivalency.

Just saying it does not make it so, dearheart.

except this time it applies.

Just saying it is not an argument. Frankly, you're not smart enough to make the argument. I got it.

i got that you refuse to reply to the 2 articles i posted that completely blows yer reasoning right outa the water cause you know it & i know it.

& i ceratinly got the other diatribe you spew is just your desperation shining thru.

Yeah, the reasoning is, people should give up their fundamental, constitutionally guaranteed rights because they might carry or pass on a virus that might impact others.

Okay.

You should give up your right to liberty (5th Amendment) because some people cannot tolerate smells and certain foods. There are a lot of these people and a lot of people die.

 

[playtime]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

you still didn't answer the factual articles i posted, chicken shit. oh - why not start calling me 'boomer' too - cause that would carry as much weight as 'karen'.

It doesn't matter what factual articles you posted. I have my own factual articles I posted which don't hide your hypocrisy. If the health and wellbeing of others supersede the individual rights of Americans outlined it the Constitution, and this is your stance, then don't be a total hypocrite. Live by it.

lol... no you don't. soooooooooo............. guess that means you have nuthin' to show but yer hurt feelins'.

You think that individuals' rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, should be set aside for the health and wellbeing of others. Well goody, I have a whole long list of stuff you must attend to. Starting with not eating milk, soy, wheat, peanuts, tree nuts, and fish, shellfish and eggs in public. Or wearing fragrances.

false equivalency.

Just saying it does not make it so, dearheart.

except this time it applies.

Just saying it is not an argument. Frankly, you're not smart enough to make the argument. I got it.

i got that you refuse to reply to the 2 articles i posted that completely blows yer reasoning right outa the water cause you know it & i know it.

& i ceratinly got the other diatribe you spew is just your desperation shining thru.

Yeah, the reasoning is, people should give up their fundamental, constitutionally guaranteed rights because they might carry or pass on a virus that might impact others.

Okay.

You should give up your right to liberty (5th Amendment) because some people cannot tolerate smells and certain foods. There are a lot of these people and a lot of people die.

^

 

[Newtonian]

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

I take it you do not like my religion. You did not actually respond to my post wherein I showed that we (Jehovah's Witnesses) have stopped public meetings and stopped door to door witnessing and that the Bible teaches us to obey Governmental authorities (Romans 13:1-5).

If you really want to discuss the dangers of blood transfusions, including the risk of transmitting diseases (e.g. Aids) - shouldn't that be on a separated thread? I will just post briefly on the gold standard of bloodless medical procedures (e.g. surgery) which shows the mortality rate is lower for those who choose procedures that exclude blood transfusions:

Blood Conservation in Surgery: Current Concepts and Practice | International Surgery

internationalsurgery.org

Excerpt:

" Bloodless medicine and surgery programs represent the gold standard in blood conservation. Blood conservation is evidence based, and it results in faster recovery, lower morbidity, lower mortality, shorter hospital stay, lower cost, and better patient (and physician) satisfaction while avoiding the hazards of allogeneic blood transfusion. Blood conservation is thus the current standard of care."

 

[SweetSue92]

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

I take it you do not like my religion. You did not actually respond to my post wherein I showed that we (Jehovah's Witnesses) have stopped public meetings and stopped door to door witnessing and that the Bible teaches us to obey Governmental authorities (Romans 13:1-5).

If you really want to discuss the dangers of blood transfusions, including the risk of transmitting diseases (e.g. Aids) - shouldn't that be on a separated thread? I will just post briefly on the gold standard of bloodless medical procedures (e.g. surgery) which shows the mortality rate is lower for those who choose procedures that exclude blood transfusions:

Blood Conservation in Surgery: Current Concepts and Practice | International Surgery

internationalsurgery.org

Excerpt:

" Bloodless medicine and surgery programs represent the gold standard in blood conservation. Blood conservation is evidence based, and it results in faster recovery, lower morbidity, lower mortality, shorter hospital stay, lower cost, and better patient (and physician) satisfaction while avoiding the hazards of allogeneic blood transfusion. Blood conservation is thus the current standard of care."

I have nothing against you personally, but I find it ironic that you are criticizing some churches who may choose to meet at this time when your own churches denies their own members life-saving blood transfusions. You can freely choose your own religion; that's the beauty of being American. But your church is not above reproach.

 

[Newtonian]

Reposting the link from "International Surgery" referenced above:

Blood Conservation in Surgery: Current Concepts and Practice | International Surgery

internationalsurgery.org

In wordpad format:

Blood Conservation in Surgery: Current Concepts and Practice | International Surgery

internationalsurgery.org

In written form - international surgery.org

/doi/full/10.9738/1257.1

 

[hadit]

Cult leaders have often been prosecuted for requiring their followers to do illegal or dangerous things.

Was this pastor "requiring" anyone to attend? If you believe he was, could you be so good as to cite the source for that belief?

 

[Newtonian]

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

I take it you do not like my religion. You did not actually respond to my post wherein I showed that we (Jehovah's Witnesses) have stopped public meetings and stopped door to door witnessing and that the Bible teaches us to obey Governmental authorities (Romans 13:1-5).

If you really want to discuss the dangers of blood transfusions, including the risk of transmitting diseases (e.g. Aids) - shouldn't that be on a separated thread? I will just post briefly on the gold standard of bloodless medical procedures (e.g. surgery) which shows the mortality rate is lower for those who choose procedures that exclude blood transfusions:

Blood Conservation in Surgery: Current Concepts and Practice | International Surgery

internationalsurgery.org

Excerpt:

" Bloodless medicine and surgery programs represent the gold standard in blood conservation. Blood conservation is evidence based, and it results in faster recovery, lower morbidity, lower mortality, shorter hospital stay, lower cost, and better patient (and physician) satisfaction while avoiding the hazards of allogeneic blood transfusion. Blood conservation is thus the current standard of care."

I have nothing against you personally, but I find it ironic that you are criticizing some churches who may choose to meet at this time when your own churches denies their own members life-saving blood transfusions. You can freely choose your own religion; that's the beauty of being American. But your church is not above reproach.

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Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

I take it you do not like my religion. You did not actually respond to my post wherein I showed that we (Jehovah's Witnesses) have stopped public meetings and stopped door to door witnessing and that the Bible teaches us to obey Governmental authorities (Romans 13:1-5).

If you really want to discuss the dangers of blood transfusions, including the risk of transmitting diseases (e.g. Aids) - shouldn't that be on a separated thread? I will just post briefly on the gold standard of bloodless medical procedures (e.g. surgery) which shows the mortality rate is lower for those who choose procedures that exclude blood transfusions:

Blood Conservation in Surgery: Current Concepts and Practice | International Surgery

internationalsurgery.org

Excerpt:

" Bloodless medicine and surgery programs represent the gold standard in blood conservation. Blood conservation is evidence based, and it results in faster recovery, lower morbidity, lower mortality, shorter hospital stay, lower cost, and better patient (and physician) satisfaction while avoiding the hazards of allogeneic blood transfusion. Blood conservation is thus the current standard of care."

I have nothing against you personally, but I find it ironic that you are criticizing some churches who may choose to meet at this time when your own churches denies their own members life-saving blood transfusions. You can freely choose your own religion; that's the beauty of being American. But your church is not above reproach.

So you refuse to acknowledge that hospitals who use bloodless medicine in medical procedures have a lower mortality rate than those that do the same procedures using blood transfusions?

Are you sure blood transfusions do not spread deadly diseases?

But you are correct that I find it abhorent (disgusting) that some religious leaders defy governmental direction to shelter in place and I think they will have innocent blood on their hands by encouraging their adherents to meet in public gatherings when clearly they will also go shopping.

 

[Newtonian]

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

i studied for about a year with JWs ... y'all are very cool people.

Thank you playtime. We no longer do public witnessing - that is part of loving our neighbors (Matthew 22:37-40) since we could be carriers of this deadly virus without showing any symptoms.

You could still study online btw - that choice is on our website:

www.jw.org

Or, if you know one of us you could study by phone or e-mail.

Btw - you can't catch viruses on the internet! (I have a sense of humor)

I am hesitant to post my e-mail address here.

 

[IM2]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

You are not a Christian. You attend church. There is a difference.

 

[IM2]

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa................... so much for that non judging 'eh suzy Q? again - you give false equivalencies.

Jackboots Karen is fine with cultish religions as long as the Talking Points Spitters tell her they're kinda groovy and okay. JW are somehow okay even though she won't get birthdays or holidays...or blood transfusions. Which is very unscientific but Karen is not one to ask any questions

You would be well served to remove the beam from your eye hypocrite.

 

[SweetSue92]

People want to be comforted by being in God's house. Period. And they have a right to do it. Period.

i have a right to be comforted by the fact that some selfish covidiot doesn't spread their damn cooties around so i'll catch it.

Then don't go out and don't go to church. Simple.

ya well --- those selfish enough not to care about their fellow humans who go to church, & end up picking up the virus, then go to the fucking grocery store & shed it - which scientists, you know...the ones that actually KNOW what they are talking about; say that COVID 19 can stay live & active on plastic & metal for up to 3 DAYS, can give it to me. or gramma. thinking bipeds realize that having food or god damn toilet paper is more important right now. NOT going to church for a few TEMPORARY weeks won't kill you ... but the virus could.

DUH.

Have you eliminated all those food allergens from your diet and also stopped wearing all fragrances of any kind? Otherwise you just continue to be a blatant hypocrite Jackboots Karen

Not reading through the whole thread but will share a Word to consider. Also will say that by law we have the right to assemble yet that does not mean it is prudent to do so in a church setting.

It is in Matthew Chapter 4. When the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted Satan told Jesus to throw himself down and Jesus responded to him you shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Why give into temptation to the possibility of exposing one's flesh being to a virus that can be and is already known to be deadly. Not that one should not take the government's threat to one's liberties lightly but to have an awareness that the possibility of catching and distributing a deadly virus is there and to wait a few weeks to let it all blow over. There are a lot of things that will need to be done to help take care of one another in the near future and if you get sick or even get another sick unnecessarily you may miss your chance to help another who needs your help.

exactly - this is only temporary. nobody is chaining the doors to houses of worship & throwing away the key

Agreed. Those of my religion obey the laws of the government unless said law is against God's law - sheltering in place is NOT against God's law. (Acts 5:29)

Those of my religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) thus obey the God-given authority of governments as Romans 13:1-5 explains. In my area (SE Louisiana, USA) we are meeting together by means of computer download (Zoom) - we had our mid-week meeting last night - we were able to comment on questions including the spiritual gems in Genesis chapters 24,25 (our assigned Bible reading this week) and see others comment, and hear their talks.

We had our last public meeting a couple of weeks ago, before the local government directed us to shelter in place. Our direction from our governing body (spiritual) was to no longer have public meetings and to stop going door to door (which some of you may realize we normally do).

The Bible teaches the importance of quarantine as well as being considered unclean after touching a dead body - the Bible did not say why - science now knows why.

As per my user name, I am especially interested in scientific research on any subject - and certainly at this time researching how Corona/Covid 19 spreads and how to bolster our immune system since many of us will be exposed to this deadly virus which may be more contagious than the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic which killed c. 1.5% of the world's population back then. 20 million people died in 4 months in every country on earth except for the tiny island of St. Helena.

While science and medicine has come a long way since 1918, we still do not have a cure for viruses and vaccines take a long time to develop. Millions will die if we do not shelter in place. Those who choose to have public meetings and then go shopping (etc.) will have blood on their hands. Very sad.

Aren't you the denomination that uses your religious freedom to deny children blood transfusions? Yes, I believe you are. And, children have died. So really before you start sermonizing Christians take a good long look in the mirror thanks

You are not a Christian. You attend church. There is a difference.

You are not the arbiter of that.