"We don't have inflation because the people are living too well, we have inflation because the government is living too well."

[AntonToo]

Not exactly sure what you're trying to imply but I agree with you that BOTH parties continually spend more. But, democrats are the ones who continually talk about spending trillions and trillions more. And, the tax cuts did not decrease tax revenues collected so that is just a lie spread by the left.

What I'm trying to imply is pretty straight forward: No tax raises are needed for Feds to increase spending. Your logic is bust.

Here is what works that Republicans base and leaders have turned down time and time and time again:

Grand Bargain - where spending cuts are accompanied by tax raises. Everyone gives some, everyone sacrifices some and ONLY THEN will therre be any sort of serious dent made in reversing our national fiscal problems.

 

[my2¢]

In the early 1970's my teacher explained that inflation was caused by deficit spending and that the government would pay U.S. bond holders back with money that was cheaper than that which they'd originally invested.

 

[Independent thinker]

What I'm trying to imply is pretty straight forward: No tax raises are needed for Feds to increase spending. Your logic is bust.

Here is what works that Republicans base and leaders have turned down time and time and time again:

Grand Bargain - where spending cuts are accompanied by tax raises. Everyone gives some, everyone sacrifices some and ONLY THEN will therre be any sort of serious dent made in reversing our national fiscal problems.

Ah, now I understand what you're saying. You're saying that taxes aren't really needed for spending because we can just add all spending onto the national debt or print more money, so, who needs taxes? Sadly, you're right on that, except for the fact that all Americans pay for all of that debt through inflation.

 

[Robert W]

Holy shit you are out to lunch.

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You are. You blame Trump when there were no vaccines, yet put no blame on Biden despite his having enough vaccines. Out to lunch was blaming Trump at all.

 

[AntonToo]

You are. You blame Trump when there were no vaccines

Quote me bullshit peddler.

Although research scientists are ultimately to credit for vaccine development, Trump's administration made meaningful efforts in funding and pushing through vaccine aprovals, followed up by Biden administration doing pretty well in ensuring smooth distribution and mandating it where it could be.

Biden did what I wanted him to do. What the hell do you want me to blame him for? People refusing getting vaccinated and vaccines having limitations in effectiveness?

 

[Robert W]

Quote me bullshit peddler.

Although research scientists are ultimately to credit for vaccine development, Trump's administration made meaningful efforts in funding and pushing through vaccine aprovals, followed up by Biden administration doing pretty well in ensuring smooth distribution and mandating it where it could be.

Say you do not blame Trump. Trump did not do research, as you admit, he speeded up testing. Biden is still losing many patients and my point has been not to blame Trump.

 

[AntonToo]

Say you do not blame Trump. Trump did not do research, as you admit, he speeded up testing. Biden is still losing many patients and my point has been not to blame Trump.

Bullshit, you specifically said this:

Trump vaccines took care of the problem and a good president would have no deaths due to CV19 by now. Biden has failed. The press fails us by keeping his secret.

That is what I was commenting on because that's just ignorant nonsense.

Good president can't force most people to get vaccinated and good president can't make vaccine more effective than it is.

 

[Robert W]

Bullshit, you specifically said this:

You say vaccines are not working, don't you. And are you denying Biden has had many more killed in the USA? Trump for many months had no vaccine at all yet he got blamed. It is fair to blame Biden a lot more given he has the Trump approved vaccines.
Read up on Biden's failures.

This was a bit more than a year into his presidency.
WASHINGTON, May 12 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden on Thursday commemorated the COVID-19 deaths of 1 million people in the United States, marking what he called "a tragic milestone" and urging Americans to "remain vigilant" during the ongoing pandemic.
In a statement, Biden acknowledged the impact of the deaths on families left behind and urged the country not to "grow numb to such sorrow."
The United States on Wednesday reached more than 1 million COVID-19 deaths, according to a Reuters tally, crossing a once-unthinkable milestone about two years after the first cases upended everyday life. The loss represents about one death for every 327 Americans, or more than the entire population of San Francisco or Seattle. read more

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This quote should be taught in school.

If Trump was wise he would borrow some of these quotes, give open credit to Reagan either during a debate, a rally or both. He can test it out during a rally and see how it goes.

America wants Reagan back. Since he cannot, Trump needs to be as close to his approach as possible, quotes and all. They are timeless.

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How does that work ? It seems to have no basis in reality.

 

[shockedcanadian]

How does that work ? It seems to have no basis in reality.

Of course is has a basis in reality. If you inject trillions of dollars into an economy, a la the I.R.A, money supply increases significantly which leads to inflation. Much of this money is for the expansion of government entities and bureaucratic functions.

The IRA was supposed to decrease inflation. Ask the average citizens if they benefited from this mass increase in debt. You can be sure those in certain segments of the government did.

 

[SurferH2O]

You guys brought up cutting spending? Are you serious? You want to send the Left into a total seizure? Then you bring up Reagan?

Holy crap. We are going to need some respirators around here for the Left Cult.

First on Reagan's spending. It was for Star Wars (SDI) which my CEO worked on as a programmer back in the day for Rockwell. He got declassified on it about 5+ years ago and told me all about it. The bottom line, it works and we now have something better than the chemical lasers of the 1980's. How do I know? Because they would have never declassified it with him had they not got something better in place. They could not only hit ICBM's, they melted a bit of pavement (blacktop) from space in a test one day. Now lasers are not as strong going through our atmosphere due to refraction that you don't deal with in space, but it was still strong enough to do that back in the 1980's. The point of the program was to bankrupt Russia and it worked in that regard too. That spending compared to this Ukraine bullshit was totally justified and paid back the U.S.A. in huge ways for decades afterwards. Ukraine will not.

The biggest problem we have is spending. I work on Federal Projects, very large ones, and it's insane.

 

[SurferH2O]

Bullshit, you specifically said this:


That is what I was commenting on because that's just ignorant nonsense.

Good president can't force most people to get vaccinated and good president can't make vaccine more effective than it is.

Biden tried to force the vaccine on people. I caught CV-19 before the vaccine was available. Later, when Biden took office he put out an Executive Order mandate that all federal contractors (me) had to have the vaccine. I wasn't going to do it and sent a letter to three different Department of Energy projects I work on to notify them that I was no longer going to be able to be a resource for their Project Controls efforts. I received more than one heated reply from associates / Feds I work with pissed off at me for not taking the shot. Too bad. Fortunately, the courts told Joe Biden he can't do that and the mandate was rescinded. Some of my relationships are still not as good as they were because of that crap. FJB.

 

[Robert W]

You guys brought up cutting spending? Are you serious? You want to send the Left into a total seizure? Then you bring up Reagan?

Holy crap. We are going to need some respirators around here for the Left Cult.

First on Reagan's spending. It was for Star Wars (SDI) which my CEO worked on as a programmer back in the day for Rockwell. He got declassified on it about 5+ years ago and told me all about it. The bottom line, it works and we now have something better than the chemical lasers of the 1980's. How do I know? Because they would have never declassified it with him had they not got something better in place. They could not only hit ICBM's, they melted a bit of pavement (blacktop) from space in a test one day. Now lasers are not as strong going through our atmosphere due to refraction that you don't deal with in space, but it was still strong enough to do that back in the 1980's. The point of the program was to bankrupt Russia and it worked in that regard too. That spending compared to this Ukraine bullshit was totally justified and paid back the U.S.A. in huge ways for decades afterwards. Ukraine will not.

The biggest problem we have is spending. I work on Federal Projects, very large ones, and it's insane.

Thanks for the dose of reality. We have too damned many Democrats trying to hand out advice. Reagan is far and away this nations finest all time President despite what Democrats historians tell us all. They don't bring up much if at all the blatant racism of Democrat dating back to FDR and his discrimination all during WW2 and up to Truman who desegregated the military.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Due to Biden leadership!

Trump and his admin would have never in a million years been able to get the masses vaccinated quickly, if you are trying to imply the vaccine is what made life better under Biden in 2021 and forward vs. Trump in 2020....?

Black Woman *Joe took over vaccinations and immediately lost 300,000 of them.

 

[AntonToo]

Biden tried to force the vaccine on people. I caught CV-19 before the vaccine was available. Later, when Biden took office he put out an Executive Order mandate that all federal contractors (me) had to have the vaccine. I wasn't going to do it and sent a letter to three different Department of Energy projects I work on to notify them that I was no longer going to be able to be a resource for their Project Controls efforts. I received more than one heated reply from associates / Feds I work with pissed off at me for not taking the shot. Too bad. Fortunately, the courts told Joe Biden he can't do that and the mandate was rescinded. Some of my relationships are still not as good as they were because of that crap. FJB.

....You are just talking about how Biden did all he could to get people vaccinated, while Robert W was blaming Biden for not getting everyone vaccinated.

Thank you for explaining to Rob how full of crap he is.

 

[Robert W]

....You are just talking about how Biden did all he could to get people vaccinated, while Robert W was blaming Biden for not getting everyone vaccinated.

Thank you for explaining to Rob how full of crap he is,

I was talking about how tragic for the USA Biden is and you kissed Biden's ass.

I did not blame Biden for America not being vaccinated. But it was proven to you that had a court not stopped him, millions of Americans would have been vaccinated.

 

[SurferH2O]

....You are just talking about how Biden did all he could to get people vaccinated, while Robert W was blaming Biden for not getting everyone vaccinated.

Thank you for explaining to Rob how full of crap he is,

I am sharing facts and my personal experience.

I have a feeling you may be taking Rob our of context?

 

[AntonToo]

I was talking about how tragic for the USA Biden is and you kissed Biden's ass.

I did not blame Biden for America not being vaccinated. But it was proven to you that had a court not stopped him, millions of Americans would have been vaccinated.

So first you blame Biden for people still dying while vaccine is available, then you blame him for doing all he can to get people vaccinated.

What the **** is your malfunction?

 

[Robert W]

I am sharing facts and my personal experience.

I have a feeling you may be taking Rob our of context?

Yes he is typical for Democrats. We say one thing, they allege we said something totally different.

 

[AntonToo]

I am sharing facts and my personal experience.

I have a feeling you may be taking Rob our of context?

And I have a feeling you can't ******* read.