"We don't have inflation because the people are living too well, we have inflation because the government is living too well."

[justoffal]

That is what we need for sure, the guy that added 180% to the national debt.

Using percentages of previous values is very deceptive. It's not a linear comparison.

 

[Lisa558]

While the democrats are very bad, Republicans haven't been much better. Even now, I don't see Trump actually having a plan to reign in the massive debt. But, just getting rid of democrats is bound to make it a little less bad.

At least he won’t be pumping more money into the economy by giving college-educated professionals an extra $500* a month to go out to Morton’s steakhouse, go to the theater more frequently, or buy another designer purse.

*average monthly student loan payment

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Using percentages of previous values is very deceptive. It's not a linear comparison.

It is far less deceptive than using total dollars, unless of course you want to argue that FDR was a penny pincher since Trump added 32 times as much to the debt as FDR did.

 

[Lesh]

I don't remember the debt being 34 trillion dollars under Reagan.

I remember him tripling it

 

[justoffal]

It is far less deceptive than using total dollars, unless of course you want to argue that FDR was a penny pincher since Trump added 32 times as much to the debt as FDR did.

You have not avoided the disparity. Neither of those is a linear comparison.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You have not avoided the disparity. Neither of those is a linear comparison.

Well then do tell, what would you use to compare how much each POTUS added to the debt?

Lay out your calculation for us all to see

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I remember him tripling it

almost.

 

[Care4all]

The morgues were never that crowded. That was a buncha bullshit.

And it was Democrat governors and corporations that went apeshit with the lockdown stuff

Nope! You are misinformed!

Yes, the morgues were over crowded, even in Republican states, even in less populated states.

Republican governors also chose lockdown and masks, and separation.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/15/health/funeral-homes-morgues-covid-deaths-wellness-partner/index.html

 

[justoffal]

Well then do tell, what would you use to compare how much each POTUS added to the debt?

Lay out your calculation for us all to see

Percentages just don't do the trick. It would have to be a complex comparison of the intrinsic living wage per capita probably expressed in something like man hours versus the increased debt burden per capita.

I'm no expert on the Reagan presidency although I remember him well. National debt wasn't something I was paying attention to at that age. All I'm saying is that I don't think you can do justice by using percentage.

 

[Independent thinker]

At least he won’t be pumping more money into the economy by giving college-educated professionals an extra $500* a month to go out to Morton’s steakhouse, go to the theater more frequently, or buy another designer purse.

*average monthly student loan payment

One thing I've noticed, that started with Obama and has continued, is that Democrats never spend a dime, it's always "investing". 50 billion here, 500 billion there, 50 trillion to fight mother nature, it's not spending money, it's "investing". The 34 trillion dollar national debt is not debt at all, it's really just investments. And they sure do like investing American's tax dollars.

 

[justoffal]

One thing I've noticed, that started with Obama and has continued, is that Democrats never spend a dime, it's always "investing". 50 billion here, 500 billion there, 50 trillion to fight mother nature, it's not spending money, it's "investing". The 34 trillion dollar national debt is not debt at all, it's really just investments. And they sure do like investing American's tax dollars.

We feel it as it works its cancerous effect on the dollar unit. Hilariously so does the same government that creates the debt when they try to spend their own currency. They hide it or try to hide it by raising taxes to cover the deficit they created.

 

[Independent thinker]

I remember him tripling it

I don't remember the debt being 34 trillion dollars under Reagan.

 

[Independent thinker]

We feel it as it works its cancerous effect on the dollar unit. Hilariously so does the same government that creates the debt when they try to spend their own currency. They hide it or try to hide it by raising taxes to cover the deficit they created.

And yet every time they want to raise taxes to get in more tax dollars, it is never to pay down on the debt, it is so they can spend more. Biden pulled a fast one on Joe Manchin on the IRA bill. Manchin agreed to sign off on it as long as 500 billion would be used to pay down the debt. That was the deal Manchin agreed to. About two weeks after the "deal" Biden said he was going to forgive student loan debt, which was going to add about 500 billion onto our national debt. So much for the deal.

 

[AntonToo]

This quote should be taught in school.

If Trump was wise he would borrow some of these quotes, give open credit to Reagan either during a debate, a rally or both. He can test it out during a rally and see how it goes.

America wants Reagan back. Since he cannot, Trump needs to be as close to his approach as possible, quotes and all. They are timeless.

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Dummy, inflation was caused by global Covid disruption of supply and demand balance.

Government is not "living too well" when people and bussiness are idling and collecting gov checks, then drive demand supply chains can't meet efficiently.

 

[AntonToo]

And yet every time they want to raise taxes to get in more tax dollars, it is never to pay down on the debt, it is so they can spend more.

Only one small problem in your half-baked theory - they don't need to raise taxes to spend more, they've been spending more just fine WHILE GIVING TAX CUTS.

 

[Independent thinker]

Only one small problem in your half-baked theory - they don't need to raise taxes to spend more, they've been spending more just fine WHILE GIVING TAX CUTS.

Not exactly sure what you're trying to imply but I agree with you that BOTH parties continually spend more. But, democrats are the ones who continually talk about spending trillions and trillions more. And, the tax cuts did not decrease tax revenues collected so that is just a lie spread by the left.

 

[Robert W]

Yes, 9 months of covid deaths under Trump, 3 1/2 years of covid deaths under Biden.

you can see the stats, covid deaths are flat lining.... not an upward hill peak as it was, but a rolling flatter line of deaths...

Biden fans wanted a no, that Trump vaccines took care of the problem and a good president would have no deaths due to CV19 by now. Biden has failed. The press fails us by keeping his secret.

 

[Robert W]

At least he won’t be pumping more money into the economy by giving college-educated professionals an extra $500* a month to go out to Morton’s steakhouse, go to the theater more frequently, or buy another designer purse.

*average monthly student loan payment

I have a grandson who recently graduated the university in CA. And he gets about $33,000 per month in salary and stocks from his employer.

 

[Lisa558]

I have a grandson who recently graduated the university in CA. And he gets about $33,000 per month in salary and stocks from his employer.

What type of work?

 

[AntonToo]

Biden fans wanted a no, that Trump vaccines took care of the problem and a good president would have no deaths due to CV19 by now. Biden has failed. The press fails us by keeping his secret.

Holy shit you are out to lunch.

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