The Pale Orc
Gold Supporting Member
- Aug 4, 2018
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- Boston, MA
There is no “you guys”. I am an Independent voter. Everything I have stated here, Bill Maher agrees with as does Charles Barkley. Are they part of “you guys”. One or two people get offended on the Internet and corporations get scared and acquiesce. To me that is pure insanity. Boycotts in general are not useful and create more harm than good.I agree that stupid shit is subjective. And if enough people think you've done stupid shit, there are consequences. They won't want to associate with you, hire you, or do business with you.Right so you agree with me that those people are extremists but yet they have significant influence. Especially those that lean left.Right. So to me there aren't any swear words or racist words. To me that is not "Stupid Shit" but yes that is my opinion. So you consider someone saying they support Donald Trump or Joe Biden to be a critical offense that may cause them to get fired? Really? Honest question.That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.That we're doomed to collapse.What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.
But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.
Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.
And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.
That's not how life works, my friend.
And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.
What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument
Me personally? Of course not.
But as you said, stupid shit is subjective. Someone else might disagree. I've met folks that feel that being gay or supporting a woman's right to choose is grounds for firing.
I wouldn't support that either. But obviously, I don't speak for everyone.
Remember when you guys were threatening boycotts of the NFL because you didn't like the protests? Or calling for boycotts of Coca-Cola because you didn't like the CEO's politics? Or boycotts of Target because of the policies regarding transgender women using the bathroom?
I thought those were just silly. But it fired you guys up. And y'all tried to impose consequences by not associating with the 'violators' of your subjective 'stupid shit'.
None of which has a thing to do with your 'rights' or 'freedom'. As there's no such thing as freedom from consequence.