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We aren't even going to last as long as the Roman empire

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument

^That's master class stuff there.
LOL --- you're still around. I was hoping you moved to Canada.
Do I know you? Do you know how the internet works?
Yes, I was hoping you moved to remote Canada without access to the Internet. Reading your posts kills more brain cells than alcohol.

You must have read all my posts then.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument

^That's master class stuff there.
LOL --- you're still around. I was hoping you moved to Canada.
Do I know you? Do you know how the internet works?
Yes, I was hoping you moved to remote Canada without access to the Internet. Reading your posts kills more brain cells than alcohol.

You must have read all my posts then.
I read enough to realize that you're a biased leftist, correct.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument

^That's master class stuff there.
LOL --- you're still around. I was hoping you moved to Canada.
Do I know you? Do you know how the internet works?
Yes, I was hoping you moved to remote Canada without access to the Internet. Reading your posts kills more brain cells than alcohol.

You must have read all my posts then.
I read enough to realize that you're a biased leftist, correct.

Thanks for walking into that, much appreciated.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
It depends on who makes the rules then. Schools are just one of many things that are going haywire. From the boomer generation to a degree and the later generations, there are a lot of spoiled babies. And that combined with "equity" not getting people in key jobs who are not that good is causing a decline. China is not the Soviet Union.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.

But the Roman empire was evil, based on greed, slavery, imperialism, colonialism, terrorism, murder, racism, religious fanaticism, militarism, and all sorts of bad things.

The only good thing to say about Rome is that for a very short time then claimed to understand the good points of a republic, that only lasted about 400 years, from 509 BC, to 27 BC.
And they never made rights universal, so even that was corrupt.

But at no time in Rome did anyone care what anyone else thought or felt.
It was an extremely narcissistic society.

Rome was good at technology though, like weapons, military strategy, etc.
Rome was good at engineering as well with significant developments like fresh water, toilets, sewers, aqueducts, etc. 400 years in not terrible. Early US civilization was quite flawed with witch trials, slavery, women's rights, etc.

Agreed about engineering and technological advances.
But Rome did not get more politically advanced, and instead backslid.

The only reason I am not more for violent revolution in the US, to end corruption, is the hope the US does get more politically advanced?
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument

^That's master class stuff there.
LOL --- you're still around. I was hoping you moved to Canada.
Do I know you? Do you know how the internet works?
Yes, I was hoping you moved to remote Canada without access to the Internet. Reading your posts kills more brain cells than alcohol.

You must have read all my posts then.
I read enough to realize that you're a biased leftist, correct.

Thanks for walking into that, much appreciated.
Walking into honesty? You should try it sometime.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.

But the Roman empire was evil, based on greed, slavery, imperialism, colonialism, terrorism, murder, racism, religious fanaticism, militarism, and all sorts of bad things.

The only good thing to say about Rome is that for a very short time then claimed to understand the good points of a republic, that only lasted about 400 years, from 509 BC, to 27 BC.
And they never made rights universal, so even that was corrupt.

But at no time in Rome did anyone care what anyone else thought or felt.
It was an extremely narcissistic society.

Rome was good at technology though, like weapons, military strategy, etc.
Rome was good at engineering as well with significant developments like fresh water, toilets, sewers, aqueducts, etc. 400 years in not terrible. Early US civilization was quite flawed with witch trials, slavery, women's rights, etc.

Agreed about engineering and technological advances.
But Rome did not get more politically advanced, and instead backslid.

The only reason I am not more for violent revolution in the US, to end corruption, is the hope the US does get more politically advanced?
Maybe but our media, both traditional and social seem to want division
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument
Right. So to me there aren't any swear words or racist words. To me that is not "Stupid Shit" but yes that is my opinion. So you consider someone saying they support Donald Trump or Joe Biden to be a critical offense that may cause them to get fired? Really? Honest question.

Me personally? Of course not.

But as you said, stupid shit is subjective. Someone else might disagree. I've met folks that feel that being gay or supporting a woman's right to choose is grounds for firing.

I wouldn't support that either. But obviously, I don't speak for everyone.
 
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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument
Right. So to me there aren't any swear words or racist words. To me that is not "Stupid Shit" but yes that is my opinion. So you consider someone saying they support Donald Trump or Joe Biden to be a critical offense that may cause them to get fired? Really? Honest question.

Me personally? Of course not.

But as you said, stupid shit is subjective. Someone else might disagree. I've met folks that feel that being gay or supporting a woman's right to choose is grounds for firing.

I wouldn't support that either. But obviously, I don't speak for everyone.
Right so you agree with me that those people are extremists but yet they have significant influence. Especially those that lean left.
 

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What would make you think that a modern nation would last as long as Rome? Back then, it took months to travel the same distance I can travel in a few hours today.

The world moves faster than ever and everything in it does as well. This, however, is not the end of anything though - the idea that things are worse now than they have ever been is just ignoring history. There was a time when we were suspending entire populations in this nation of all their rights for nothing more than fear. We have it pretty fucking good even if there are insane elements in our culture. We have always had insane people, they just have a much broader reach now.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

So more of these collapse of America fantasies?

Old republicans are increasing nihilistic, taking a 'watch the world burn' approach to our nation. This is why I don't vote for them; why would you want people in government who are convinced your nation is doomed?
They've been whining about the end of America like the end of the Roman Empire as long as I can remember.....................

Which is why I haven't voted for Republicans for as long as I can remember. I don't want anyone in a position of leadership that is a nihilist, convinced that our nation is doomed.





Hell, you have NEVER voted for a repub in your life. We all know that.
Republicans used to be decent people...............decades ago. No longer....scum supporting scum.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

Sounds to me like when your generation dies off the problem is solved. Seriously, you didn't really post anything other than telling people to get off your lawn.





When our generation dies off, you won't last a year. You pissants are incapable of fending for yourselves.

Going to be fun to watch!
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.





Indeed. The xiden admin is an EXCELLENT example of a nascent fascist regime.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

So more of these collapse of America fantasies?

Old republicans are increasing nihilistic, taking a 'watch the world burn' approach to our nation. This is why I don't vote for them; why would you want people in government who are convinced your nation is doomed?
They've been whining about the end of America like the end of the Roman Empire as long as I can remember.....................

Which is why I haven't voted for Republicans for as long as I can remember. I don't want anyone in a position of leadership that is a nihilist, convinced that our nation is doomed.





Hell, you have NEVER voted for a repub in your life. We all know that.
Republicans used to be decent people...............decades ago. No longer....scum supporting scum.



And yet under the democrat rule the richest one percent became the richest ever on the planet, bar none. And are getting richer. At the expense of the middle class. I don't care how nice someone is to me, i care about what they DO to me. The repubs left me alone. The dems are trying to enslave me.

But you're an idiot so don't care.

Just remember twinkletoes, after the Nazi's got their use out of them, they murdered the gays who helped get them in power.

Read your history.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
1. Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
2. Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
3. Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice.
4. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
5. Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.

Without responding to the factuality of your complaints, how about listing them in order 1-5 of their actual impact on your life?
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

Sounds to me like when your generation dies off the problem is solved. Seriously, you didn't really post anything other than telling people to get off your lawn.





When our generation dies off, you won't last a year. You pissants are incapable of fending for yourselves.

Going to be fun to watch!

Is that intended for me or the cloud over your head?
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

Sounds to me like when your generation dies off the problem is solved. Seriously, you didn't really post anything other than telling people to get off your lawn.
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OMG, I love it...where do I buy one?
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
They were chugging along nicely until the christians took over.
Incest and pedophilia is chugging along nicely?
Nice to meet Q
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

Sounds to me like when your generation dies off the problem is solved. Seriously, you didn't really post anything other than telling people to get off your lawn.





When our generation dies off, you won't last a year. You pissants are incapable of fending for yourselves.

Going to be fun to watch!

Is that intended for me or the cloud over your head?





You figure it out. Or not, as the case may be.
 

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