We aren't even going to last as long as the Roman empire

[justoffal]

Someone told gipper and me the USA is not an empire. What do you think?

If you removed USA from UN.....it would collapse.

If you removed USA from NATO...it would collapse....

So yeah I think the word Nation does not suffice.

 

[justoffal]

Our influence, military, economic, extends to every country on every continent. So, what are we?

Bingo

 

[justoffal]

The Romans ruled England for longer than the U.S. has been existence but the Romans were murderous thugs and the U.S. invented the concept of government by the people that revolutionized the world. You can play around with time and geography if it makes you happy but it's mostly a useless exercise.

We copied the Roman construct however.

 

[gipper]

We copied the Roman construct however.

And it appears we are copying their decline.

 

[gipper]

Someone told gipper and me the USA is not an empire. What do you think?

Anyone denying the US is an empire, is obviously ignorant. The poster in question lacks the self awareness to understand this. It’s rather amusing.

 

[justoffal]

And it appears we are copying their decline.

Very much so...in almost every aspect

 

[JWBooth]

We copied the Roman construct however.

Right down to completely fucking up the republic.

 

[justoffal]

Anyone denying the US is an empire, is obviously ignorant. The poster in question lacks the self awareness to understand this. It’s rather amusing.

Arguments over semantics usually.
Like INSURRECTION or FELON or Planet.
Look at the Hullabaloo over Pluto!

The case for the US being more than just a nation is very strong...but....because it has not been officially proclaimed otherwise you will have those who are displeased.

 

[sealybobo]

Canada, Mexico....... Stop sending them money.... You won't have to conquer them, They will ask to join.

Greenland is voting on its independence.
With a total population of 56,000...
New York City could send a third of its police force over there and conquer the island.
It does not have the ability to exist independently.

Can China buy Hawaii? Don't you think we should let Hawaiian's vote on it?

Kamala did get 60% of the vote. Would you be okay with Hawaii putting itself on Zillow?

 

[sealybobo]

Anyone denying the US is an empire, is obviously ignorant. The poster in question lacks the self awareness to understand this. It’s rather amusing.

He's very stubborn. I hope he finds his way here and tries to argue with EVERYONE that the USA is not an Empire. I mean, what an idiot

 

[gipper]

Arguments over semantics usually.
Like INSURRECTION or FELON or Planet.
Look at the Hullabaloo over Pluto!

The case for the US being more than just a nation is very strong...but....because it has not been officially proclaimed otherwise you will have those who are displeased.

I suspect it’s more than just a matter of officially calling itself an empire. It obviously is an empire and has been for a long time.

My guess is many Americans believe the myths we were told about our nation in government school. They cling to these mythical ideas and refuse to accept reality.

 

[justoffal]

Can China buy Hawaii? Don't you think we should let Hawaiian's vote on it?

Kamala did get 60% of the vote. Would you be okay with Hawaii putting itself on Zillow?

Hawaii is where it wants to be....with a small segment of its population wanting independence.

It does not have the ability to be independent.
It will always need help from a larger nation.

Greenland is a child playing in the adult league.
Independence is more than just a vapid day dream...it is a state of circumstance. Greenland does not have the circumstance.

 

[justoffal]

I suspect it’s more than just a matter of officially calling itself an empire. It obviously is an empire and has been for a long time.

My guess is many Americans believe the myths we were told about our nation in government school. They cling to these mythical ideas and refuse to accept reality.

Myths.....yes, yes....this is truly the case.

 

[gipper]

He's very stubborn. I hope he finds his way here and tries to argue with EVERYONE that the USA is not an Empire. I mean, what an idiot

Sadly he’s not alone. I suspect millions of Americans would dispute it.

 

[sealybobo]

Hawaii is where it wants to be....with a small segment of its population wanting independence.

It does not have the ability to be independent.
It will always need help from a larger nation.

Greenland is a child playing in the adult league.
Independence is more than just a vapid day dream...it is a state of circumstance. Greenland does not have the circumstance.

China is a larger nation

 

[justoffal]

China is a larger nation

Yes

 

[justoffal]

They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

Yeah we are in the end stages now....
Not sure how it will work out.
Best plan? NORTH AMERICAN UNION

 

[Unkotare]

The US is NOT an empire. Words have meanings.

 

[gipper]

The US is NOT an empire. Words have meanings.

You keep telling yourself that Nancy.

 

[Unkotare]

You keep telling yourself that...

Keep telling myself the truth? Ok.