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We aren't even going to last as long as the Roman empire

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Societal issues aside, the fiscal issues alone will sink the US.
The DC whores pander as the US decays fiscally and socially.
You cannot deny the math. Plot the borrowing and debt to prop up the phony standard of living, it's growing exponentially.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

Sounds to me like when your generation dies off the problem is solved. Seriously, you didn't really post anything other than telling people to get off your lawn.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.

 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective. Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit". Meanwhile Ilhan Omar may say that Israel hypnotized the world and compare Israel to Hamas with zero repercussions because she is on the left. Hunter Biden may say racist stuff on Twitter but if it were Trump Jr. he would be vilified. Let's not pretend that the cancel culture doesn't lean 95% one way. Thankfully persons like Charles Barkley, Kevin Hart, Gina Carano and Bill Maher are standing up to it, among many others.

I should be allowed to say I support Donald Trump or I support Joe Biden without fear of losing my job. Fair?
 
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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?

Sounds to me like when your generation dies off the problem is solved. Seriously, you didn't really post anything other than telling people to get off your lawn.
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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument

^That's master class stuff there.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.

But the Roman empire was evil, based on greed, slavery, imperialism, colonialism, terrorism, murder, racism, religious fanaticism, militarism, and all sorts of bad things.

The only good thing to say about Rome is that for a very short time then claimed to understand the good points of a republic, that only lasted about 400 years, from 509 BC, to 27 BC.
And they never made rights universal, so even that was corrupt.

But at no time in Rome did anyone care what anyone else thought or felt.
It was an extremely narcissistic society.

Rome was good at technology though, like weapons, military strategy, etc.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument
Right. So to me there aren't any swear words or racist words. To me that is not "Stupid Shit" but yes that is my opinion. So you consider someone saying they support Donald Trump or Joe Biden to be a critical offense that may cause them to get fired? Really? Honest question.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument

^That's master class stuff there.
LOL --- you're still around. I was hoping you moved to Canada.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.

But the Roman empire was evil, based on greed, slavery, imperialism, colonialism, terrorism, murder, racism, religious fanaticism, militarism, and all sorts of bad things.

The only good thing to say about Rome is that for a very short time then claimed to understand the good points of a republic, that only lasted about 400 years, from 509 BC, to 27 BC.
And they never made rights universal, so even that was corrupt.

But at no time in Rome did anyone care what anyone else thought or felt.
It was an extremely narcissistic society.

Rome was good at technology though, like weapons, military strategy, etc.
Rome was good at engineering as well with significant developments like fresh water, toilets, sewers, aqueducts, etc. 400 years in not terrible. Early US civilization was quite flawed with witch trials, slavery, women's rights, etc.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument
Right. So to me there aren't any swear words or racist words. To me that is not "Stupid Shit" but yes that is my opinion. So you consider someone saying they support Donald Trump or Joe Biden to be a critical offense that may cause them to get fired? Really? Honest question.

Then to you, you aren't doing stupid shit. To others, you are. And they get to decide for themselves if they want to associate with you.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument

^That's master class stuff there.
LOL --- you're still around. I was hoping you moved to Canada.
Do I know you? Do you know how the internet works?
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument
Right. So to me there aren't any swear words or racist words. To me that is not "Stupid Shit" but yes that is my opinion. So you consider someone saying they support Donald Trump or Joe Biden to be a critical offense that may cause them to get fired? Really? Honest question.

Then to you, you aren't doing stupid shit. To others, you are. And they get to decide for themselves if they want to associate with you.
I am asking you Skylar do you consider someone saying "I voted for Donald Trump" an offense to have their life ruined in terms of social media shaming and losing their job? Yes or no? That is all. I am asking for YOUR opinion.
 

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They made it 1000 years. We're not even to a quarter of that yet and the wedge issues are becoming so wide that bridging them may become impossible. And sadly those wedge issues are comprised of mostly morality issues.
With so many convincing themselves that something as simple as BIOLOGY is up for debate how do you negotiate with such ignorance?
Hate crimes, a ridiculous term imo, are on the rise DRAMATICALLY but not in the manner that the elites and media portray.
Boys are coddled as girls & vice versa instead of their mental illness being treated.
Crimes are going unpunished for one segment of society in the name of social justice. Adults are having their lives wrecked for shit they said as a child.
Young adults are being taught that capitalism & being white is a bad thing.
The list goes on and on.
How do we ever recover from this lunacy, or can we?
You are correct. Leftists want Socialism and Socialism kills countries. Rome's biggest issue was multiculturalism. Doesn't work. Not the SAME as racism. Don't care what color you are or race you are but we all need to embrace American values of burgers, football, democracy, etc. If you start imposing crap like socialism, sharia, etc. in pockets and it spreads the country dies.

Another member of 'we're completely fucked and about to collapse' club.

But why would EVER want people like this in leadership roles? Why would we ever want them as part of our government? Nihillism make be the beating heart of the GOP, but its nothing to build a nation around.
What specifically did you disagree with in my post? Learn history. Multiculturalism crushed the Roman Empire. And yeah if we keep censoring opposing views in the media, both traditional and social and allow a tiny minority to control the narrative of the majority because the majority fears that it may offend someone and lose their livelihood then yes, a nation can collapse.
That we're doomed to collapse.

And 'censoring opposing views in the media'? You get that Rome was overwhelming a dictatorship. There was no such thing as 'free press'. And if you opposed the emperor's view, you would frequently be killed, exiled or mutilated.

Nor was Rome's longevity associated with a 'free press'. There was never any such thing.
Read up on it. Rome was quite progressive.


Dictatorships don't respect freedom of the press, Azog. They never have. And if someone defied the Emperor, they paid for it with their lives.
We don't have a lot of freedoms left here. People are digging up tweets from 10 years ago to punish people today. One cannot even say the support Donald Trump publicly in many places and continue to keep their job. Freedoms are waning.

You have tons of freedoms here. Freedom from government interference. What you DON'T have nor have ever had....is freedom from consequence for the stupid shit you say and do.

And that's what conservatives are lamenting about: they want to be free from any consequence.

That's not how life works, my friend.
Actually, no. "Stupid Shit" is subjective.
That's exactly it. Stupid shit is subjective. We each have the freedom to determine for ourselves if someone else is guilty of 'stupid shit'.

And if enough people think you did something stupid.......you face consequences. If you use the n-word, or are blatantly racist, or tell people to kill themselves (Chissy Teigan anyone?), then folks aren't going to want to deal with you.

What 'freedom' is denied you under such an arrangement? Freeedom from consequence is not one you've ever had.


Saying one supports Donald Trump or one believes BLM is a terror organization is not "stupid shit".
I refer to you AzogtheDefiler: "Stupid Shit" is subjective.

Unless you're arguing that YOU get to decide what is subjective for everyone......you just toasted your own argument

^That's master class stuff there.
LOL --- you're still around. I was hoping you moved to Canada.
Do I know you? Do you know how the internet works?
Yes, I was hoping you moved to remote Canada without access to the Internet. Reading your posts kills more brain cells than alcohol.
 

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Societal issues aside, the fiscal issues alone will sink the US.
The DC whores pander as the US decays fiscally and socially.
You cannot deny the math. Plot the borrowing and debt to prop up the phony standard of living, it's growing exponentially.

But only since 2008.
We could still fix things if we wanted to.
We just need to increase tariffs to stop offshoring of jobs, improve education quality and costs, public health care, balance the budget, end foreign troop deployments, etc.
 

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