Watch this... Hey libs, do you have any examples of successful socialist countries? List them.

[Theowl32]

Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.

Please, list the countries.

All of the worlds most successful countries have some degree of socialism. Socialism and capitalism are academic terms and there have never been any examples of a pure form of either.

Some form. Got it.

 

[evenflow1969]

As socialism has been practiced in the past, it is always imposed via government power and coercion. Right?

You are so averse to admitting when you are wrong that you will make attempt after attempt to move the goalposts.

Socialism is an economic theory which can be practiced in a state with any form of government.

What you and I dislike most about China is it's lack of democracy. Same goes for Saudi Arabia and Russia. Three different economic systems.

Now. Please save us the trouble and claim victory now. You know you want to.

I agree with that. Thank you.

However, you stated the Chinese economy is socialist. It is not.

Oh boy! He's unable to admit his mistake.

Ya hear that everyone? China does not have a socialist economy. Gipper said it. Take it to the bank.

Oh my, you poor thing.

China's economy is about as socialist as is the US economy.

You might want to look up the definition of socialism, prior to posting.

Ya hear that? The guy says that the economies of China and the US are equally socialist.

Awesome insight.

so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
   
   
   • policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
     synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
     
     
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

Please note political and economic in the definition there.

 

[Mac1958]

Does the size, scope and cost of a government exist on a continuum, or does it not?

 

[Moonglow]

Someone needs to refund this fool his college tuition. He doesn't know what socialism is nor who is socialist.

And he will never learn in a semantics kinda whey...

 

[Moonglow]

China isn't a socialist country to a rightist...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Weird, how people dont know the point of my thread.

Weird.

Not weird at all. Since you have never given the point of your thread why would anyone know what it is? Fuck, nobody even knows what you consider to be a socialist country.

I realize you think you are being coy, but really you are not.

 

[cnm]

Weird, how people dont know the point of my thread.

Weird.

That you don't know what you're talking about? I think that point has been firmly grasped.

 

[Mac1958]

DANG this is a vague thread. What's it about?

 

[bripat9643]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
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Lol

Good mac, thank you for playing.

What do you notice about those countries? Notice anything? What?

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Lol

Good mac, thank you for playing.

What do you notice about those countries? Notice anything? What?

An overwhelming percentage of the citizens of each country I listed have spleens.

Now. Perhaps you can make a point.
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Mac, those aren't Socialist countries, those are welfare states.

A Socialist country is one that owns/controls the means of production, and controls/dictates the price of goods through mandate.

socialism vs. social democracy


In the many years since socialism entered English around 1830, it has acquired several different meanings. It refers to a system of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control, but the conception of that control has varied, and the term has been interpreted in widely diverging ways, ranging from statist to libertarian, from Marxist to liberal. In the modern era, "pure" socialism has been seen only rarely and usually briefly in a few Communist regimes. Far more common are systems of social democracy, now often referred to as democratic socialism, in which extensive state regulation, with limited state ownership, has been employed by democratically elected governments (as in Sweden and Denmark) in the belief that it produces a fair distribution of income without impairing economic growth.

Definition of SOCIALISM

In other words, capitalism is socialism. Pure horseshit.

 

[Old Rocks]

Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.

Please, list the countries.

LOL Do you have any examples of purely capitalistic successful nations? No, you do not. Every successful nation on this planet has a mix of capitalism and socialism. For they are economic tools, only ideologies to idiots like you.

 

[bodecea]

Lol at racist libs

Sure trying hard to pass on that label, eh?

 

[Unkotare]

Someone needs to refund this fool his college tuition. He doesn't know what socialism is nor who is socialist.

Can you name a nation that is socialist, as you define the term?

Sure.

China.

Have a nice day.

Proves the opposite.

 

[georgephillip]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

socialism - Google Search

"so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. "a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
   
   
   • "policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
     synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
     
     
   • "(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism."

Can anyone find an example of a country that has ever regulated the means of production by the community as a whole as opposed to private capitalists or unelected bureaucrats?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.

Please, list the countries.

Soon as you list the successful libertarian countries, or the successful fascist countries.
The point here is, few people in America have EVER wanted pure socialism...not even American socialists.

I realize that this is difficult for you to comprehend, but the list of "successful socialist countries" is made up of countries which have a modified regulated CAPITALIST economy with a few socialist tweaks added.
Essentially, give or take a few degrees or levels, we're talking about systems which more or less resemble what the United States economic and social system was starting at the New Deal Era, all the way up until 1980.

Socialism is every bit as capable of failure as capitalism. It fails when PURITY becomes an obsession, and that's because PURITY is the kiss of death to economics, to genetics, to art, music, literature, cuisine and spirituality.
Nature does not tolerate purity all too well, nature rewards the introduction of new genetic material, thus the hybrid is stronger, smarter, more robust and resilient and more adaptive to stress and change.

The most successful economies are always the hybrid economies. They serve the largest number of people and they provide protection against chaotic swings in market forces.

 

[Theowl32]

Libs sure are racists

 

[boedicca]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Hmmmm...let's look at the similarities:

1. Small, affluent largely homogenous Nordic countries. Nordic peoples have a long tradition of egalitarianism as they lived for centuries in harsh circumstances which required cooperation to get through the winters. So, the culture preceded the Democratic Socialism.

2. Anglosphere countries with the traditions of Western Civilization, and which have not been overrun, yet, with massive illegal immigration. Canada and Australia are self-immolating themselves on the multi-cultural petard, so their happiness levels are at risk of declining.

 

[boedicca]

And in response to the OP: All hard Socialist/Communist countries are successful if the objective is to subjugate the masses and to make them equally poor, subservient, fearful, and obedient.

 

[eddiew37]

And in response to the OP: All hard Socialist/Communist countries are successful if the objective is to subjugate the masses and to make them equally poor, subservient, fearful, and obedient.

perhaps the op can name successful countries run by an AH? Besides America

 

[francoHFW]

"now we're all socialists!"- Finland prime minister when ObamaCare was passed...

The problem we have here is that GOP dupes don't know what socialism is... They think it is communism...

 

[cnm]

DANG this is a vague thread. What's it about?

I'm not sure what the thread's about, but the OP is about echoing the chamber in complete ignorance.