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[TemplarKormac]

That’s their choice.

Your first choice as a physician is to make the patient better. Through a singular or plural means. It isn't "medicate first, ask questions later."

Physicians have forgotten other approaches that work just as well, if not better than downright medicating someone into oblivion. Medications are normally supposed to be a supplementary approach in treatment, not a singular one.

 

[Marener]

If your physician's first instinct is medicating the patient instead of giving guidance, that's a you problem. That's a piss poor physician.

Priorities. You have to put out the fire first.

If someone shows up with a heart attack, do you tell them to go home and change their diet? If someone shows up with a blood pressure of 200 do you tell them to go home and change their diet?

If all you do is wag your finger and tell them to change their habits instead of simultaneously using effective medications you're a piss poor physician.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It's not your responsibility to force them into anything. Refuse to see them if they don't want what you're selling. I want root cause first. Always.

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People like Marener make me wonder how we ever survived the many millennia of human history, before pHARMaceuticals were invented.

Should I let him/her/it know that, in my experience, a daily cup of hibiscus tea is a far better anti-hypertensive than any drug?

I gave some to my nephew and his doctor just about dropped his jaw on the floor, to see how much lower his BP had become.


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[TemplarKormac]

You'd be increasing the burden of disease in the country due to your own self righteous indignation.

And you think overreliance and dependence on medication isn't a problem within itself?

That is due to self-righteous indignation on the part of people who think medications are the be-all-end-all of treatment.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Many more than a million would have died without the Covid vax.

Lol

 

[Marener]

Your first choice as a physician is to make the patient better. Through a singular or plural means. It isn't "medicate first, ask questions later."

Physicians have forgotten other approaches that work just as well, if not better than downright medicating someone into oblivion. Medications are normally supposed to be a supplementary approach in treatment, not a singular one.

This is a strawman.

At no point in time has anyone said physicians shouldn't address lifestyle modifications.

You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Marener]

And you think overreliance and dependence on medication isn't a problem within itself?

That is due to self-righteous indignation on the part of people who think medications are the be-all-end-all of treatment.

Hospitals are full of people who suffered consequences because of an under-reliance on medications.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Your first choice as a physician is to make the patient better. Through a singular or plural means. It isn't "medicate first, ask questions later."

Physicians have forgotten other approaches that work just as well, if not better than downright medicating someone into oblivion. Medications are normally supposed to be a supplementary approach in treatment, not a singular one.

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My late husband was medicated to death by pHARMa.


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[Marener]

People like @Marener make me wonder how we ever survived the many millennia of human history, before pHARMaceuticals were invented.

Lots of people didn't.

Obviously.

 

[struth]

So the problem is that RFK Jr was going to say something but didn’t, and that’s Wyden’s fault for not knowing that?

Also, anyone that believes the shitty explanation from RFK Jr is a dope.

Well, according to the testimony, he did know that, RFK Jr, according to his testimony had told him that. That's what was dishonest about his question at that time.

but I don't expect someone that doesn't know what the word "safe" means, to not get that.

 

[Zincwarrior]

who cares?

Wasn't discussing it with you, moron.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Lots of people didn't.

Obviously.

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You're so simple.









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[TemplarKormac]

If someone shows up with a heart attack, do you tell them to go home and change their diet?

One of two outcomes:

They are dead. Or they aren't. You dictate treatment decisions based on that. If they aren't dead, then you look for the root cause, you give medication or prescribe other treatments, like pacemakers, transplants, or bypasses, and then you demand they change their lifestyle habits.

You don't just say "here, take two of these and call me in the morning." You tell them to take the meds and change whatever caused the heart attack in the first place.

You're supposed to diagnose the problem, not medicate the problem.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Why is anyone arguing with Templar about anything?

He is fundamentally incompetent in understanding these issues.

Clayton, is that you?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

If your physician's first instinct is medicating the patient instead of giving guidance, that's a you problem. That's a piss poor physician.

You are not a health care professional with an understanding of infectious diseases and how to treat them.

Thus, trust the professionals and not the yoiks like you.

 

[Marener]

Well, according to the testimony, he did know that, RFK Jr, according to his testimony had told him that. That's what was dishonest about his question at that time.

RFK is a liar. If you believe he was totally going to say something, you're a dope.

 

[Marener]

You're so simple.

You're not very smart.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Lol

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1. You wear a mask to protect others from you.

2. And the vax works to protect the vaccinated.

 

[TemplarKormac]

If all you do is wag your finger and tell them to change their habits instead of simultaneously using effective medications you're a piss poor physician.

If all you do is wag your finger and tell them to take meds without giving them any guidance to enhance the meds effectiveness, you are a piss-poor physician. Meds and (in this case lifestyle) are synergistic. One enhances the other and vice versa.

 

[Marener]

One of two outcomes:

They are dead. Or they aren't. You dictate treatment decisions based on that. If they aren't dead, then you look for the root cause, you give medication or prescribe other treatments, like pacemakers, transplants, or bypasses, and then you demand they change their lifestyle habits.

You don't just say "here, take two of these and call me in the morning." You tell them to take the meds and change whatever caused the heart attack in the first place.

You're supposed to diagnose the problem, not medicate the problem.

You really don't understand much about medicine.

Understanding the root cause of something doesn't stop the problem from happening. You have to treat the problem (which often includes medications gasp!) before it kills them. Then you can worry about addressing the root cause.