WATCH: Ex-Secretary of Defense Says trump Wanted The National Guard 'To Protect The Demonstrators'

[meaner gene]

Police can use deadly force only when deadly force is justified, a lesson you and your storm troopers will learn in court as the family is suing.

You just threw the George Floyd argument front and center.

 

[rightwinger]

They obviously were trying to find and capture Pence and any available Congressperson. Pelosi and AOC were specifically targeted by the mob.
What were they going to do once they captured them?
Killing them was a possibility.

This is where the constitution gives light to why they targeted Mike Pence.

Article II / 12th Amendment

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

Article I
The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.

This means that ONLY the vice president can open and count the votes. Without Pence, there could legally be no count.

Somebody would have to rule whether the president pro-temp of the senate, can serve as president of the senate for constitutional purposes.

It tells us the Vice President shall open and count the votes. It does not give him the power to overturn those votes.

That is what Trump demanded of Pence. When he refused, Trump sent a mob to kill him

 

[meaner gene]

It tells us the Vice President shall open and count the votes. It does not give him the power to overturn those votes.

That is what Trump demanded of Pence. When he refused, Trump sent a mob to kill him

This is why Trump figured his packed supreme court with 1/3 appointed by republicans, 1/3 appointed by Trump vs the 1/3 appointed by democrats would rule in his favor.

I'm sure Trump had advisors like the "pillow guy" telling Trump it would work.

 

[BluesLegend]

Stop lying lib, the woman was shot dead. By all means explain how that was justifiable homicide.

She broke the law by storming the Capitol
She led a mob in trying to breach the House Chamber
Once that door was breached, there was no way to hold back an angry mob and protect the Congress members
She was repeatedly warned to get back
She was the first through the window
She had it coming

Go ahead prove deadly force was allowed, you can't.

Deadly force is always allowed to protect others from an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm.

LOL "threat of death or great bodily harm" via what? There were no weapons and no threat of of death or bodily harm. Go ahead tell us all how police facing down months of violent riots in Dem cities are justified in mowing down rioters in a hail of bullets. You people are so phony.

That mob had numbers, they didn't need weapons.

Your Dem riots had numbers, and weapons, and actually injured many police officers and citizens.

 

[meaner gene]

If Trump and his supporters knew the law, they wouldn't have attacked the capitol to stop the count.

But after Trump and his supporters went virtually 0 for 60 in legal challenges, they were out of options.

 

[meaner gene]

Your Dem riots had numbers, and weapons, and actually injured many police officers and citizens.

What they didn't have, was doing so to take down part of the government (insurrection)

 

[BluesLegend]

Your Dem riots had numbers, and weapons, and actually injured many police officers and citizens.

What they didn't have, was doing so to take down part of the government (insurrection)

Lib please your Dem rioters repeatedly attacked government employees, officials and buildings. You Dem rioters hung a banner on an overpass recently threating the mayor of Portland.

 

[Faun]

Stop lying lib, the woman was shot dead. By all means explain how that was justifiable homicide.

She broke the law by storming the Capitol
She led a mob in trying to breach the House Chamber
Once that door was breached, there was no way to hold back an angry mob and protect the Congress members
She was repeatedly warned to get back
She was the first through the window
She had it coming

Go ahead prove deadly force was allowed, you can't.

Deadly force is always allowed to protect others from an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm.

LOL "threat of death or great bodily harm" via what? There were no weapons and no threat of of death or bodily harm. Go ahead tell us all how police facing down months of violent riots in Dem cities are justified in mowing down rioters in a hail of bullets. You people are so phony.

That mob had numbers, they didn't need weapons.

Your Dem riots had numbers, and weapons, and actually injured many police officers and citizens.

It appears the police didn't feel lethal force was needed to protect the lives of others.

 

[Faun]

If Trump and his supporters knew the law, they wouldn't have attacked the capitol to stop the count.

But after Trump and his supporters went virtually 0 for 60 in legal challenges, they were out of options.

Well no, they still had an option.

Accepting reality was always an option on the table for them.

 

[rightwinger]

It tells us the Vice President shall open and count the votes. It does not give him the power to overturn those votes.

That is what Trump demanded of Pence. When he refused, Trump sent a mob to kill him

This is why Trump figured his packed supreme court with 1/3 appointed by republicans, 1/3 appointed by Trump vs the 1/3 appointed by democrats would rule in his favor.

I'm sure Trump had advisors like the "pillow guy" telling Trump it would work.

I think Trump was most disappointed that “his court” did not come through for him and support any nonsense he put before them

 

[rightwinger]

Your Dem riots had numbers, and weapons, and actually injured many police officers and citizens.

What they didn't have, was doing so to take down part of the government (insurrection)

Lib please your Dem rioters repeatedly attacked government employees, officials and buildings. You Dem rioters hung a banner on an overpass recently threating the mayor of Portland.

Where did Dems ever tell the rioters to form?

Trump did

 

[meaner gene]

Where did Dems ever tell the rioters to form?

Trump did

They'll blame democrats for tornadoes. Because no democrat has made a statement condemning tornadoes.