Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?


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President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
america isnt a democracy you stupid fuck,,,
Dumbfuck, Georgia is a democracy and Impeached Trump threatened Georgia's Secretary of State with "vague criminal consequences" to "find" enough votes to overturn the will of Georgia's voters.
Funny how none of you libtards can quote the threat.
LOL

Nah, what's funny is that you're a raging imbecile.

"I think you’re going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and they’re brand new, and they don’t have seals, and there’s a whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt. And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal — it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know, what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk." ~ Impeached Trump
Cool.

Where is the threat, Dumbass?
"That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer." ~ Impeached Trump
Cool.

Where it the threat by EXONERATED TRUMP?
Dumbfuck, that's a threat of "vague criminal consequences." It's not my problem you lack the required intelligence to comprehend that.
It is?

You have quite the imagination.
It is. Telling someone they're at "risk" of committing a "criminal offense," which could result in incarceration, is absolutely a threat of "vague criminal consequences." But don't fret, I don't expect someone of your vacuity to understand that. Just go resume your utopia of snacking on paint chips dipped in mercury.
Odd.

I don't see anything about "incarceration" in the quote you provided.

The fact you continue to make up shit exposes how weak your position is, Moron.

You lose again, Fawnboi. :banana: :laughing0301: :banana: :laughing0301:
LOLOL

Are you ever not a dumbfuck? Ever???

I mean exactly how retarded are you to not know that committing crime produces a risk of incarceration?? :ack-1:
Hey stupid, Georgia has no mandatory reporting law regarding election crimes. So it isn't illegal to ignore any election law violation.

As such, there is no punishment, much less incarceration.

Do you ever get tired of me exposing what a colossal moron you are?

You lose again, Fawnboi. :banana: :laughing0301: :banana: :laughing0301:
Dumbfuck, Impeached Trump accused Raffensperger of committing a crime. Committing a crime produces the risk of incarceration.
 
you can't pardon anybody BEFORE a charge has been brought. Pardons are specific that way.
Yes he can and no they're not. You should read this. It's amazing but true.

WASHINGTON — Speculation that President Donald Trump might issue pardons before he leaves office for members of his family or other supporters raises a question about whether pardons can be issued pre-emptively — that is, before someone is charged with a crime.

And the answer is undoubtedly yes.




You are very correct.

ford pardoned nixon when he became president. There were no charges filed against nixon.

george bush the first pardoned casper weinberger during the Iran contra investigation. weinberger wasn't charged with anything. The pardon stopped the whole investigation and we never found out the truth of Iran contra.
But Walsh was named as indep counsel on Dec 1986 and was still indicting in 1992. It was a precursor Starr's shennagians.
 
Everyone knows the intent was corrupt. It will be added to his corrupt legacy.

Couple things on that...
1) Corrupt?... I don't think necessarily. Trump believes, right or wrong, that there are certainly enough illegal/unauthorized/questionable votes in GA to overturn the outcome. To which, he is probably right. What Trump wants them to do is go back, find enough bad votes (LEGALLY) and overturn it.
- Is that corrupt?
2) Show me a politician in Washington that does not try to bend things to get their way? Show me a President that has not done the same.
- Is Trump doing it, somehow worse than all of the others? Or is it your own bias that fuels the outrage?
 
There is nothing illegal here.... dumb? yes. Heresay? yes
WIth all of this - obviously what is being ignored is we have two state officials who recorded a conversation with the President so they could give or sell it to the media.
It wasn't leaked. It was provided.
Is that illegal?
Have you looked at Georgia and Federal laws related to it?

If a democratic president had done what he did, would you be defending the Democratic president that lost his second term, for the same actions as Trump has done?
Yep. I would. You will never find one post from me discussing impeaching Obama. I thought the WJC impeachment was stupid too. Trump is done in less than three weeks. Who will you blame for all your ills then? Scapegoat will be long gone. Issues will still be here.

Trump is a criminal. Do we accept that?
In America you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Do we still accept that?
Only in court. If you did it, you are guilty whether it can be proved or not.
I guess you live in a different version of America than I do since here the courts determine guilt and or innocence.
These are the same people who like to say Hillary Clinton has never done anything wrong.
It's laughable
Wrong and criminal are vastly different. Wrong/Right is subjective. Criminal is objective.
Everyone knows the intent was corrupt. It will be added to his corrupt legacy.
Everyone? Every singe person in the world?
 
Trump Sues Georgia Secretary Of State Over Leaked Phone Call


Trump Sues Georgia Secretary Of State Over Leaked Phone Call (thepalmierireport.com)
by : Jacob Palmieri

President Trump has filed two lawsuits against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger over a leaked phone call obtained and published by the Washington Post on Sunday, in which Trump badgered the Georgia official over election fraud.

David Shafer on Twitter: "The audio published by @TheWashingtonPost is heavily edited and omits the stipulation that all discussions were for the purpose of settling litigation and confidential under federal and state law." / Twitter

Dinesh D'Souza on Twitter: "I’m not making a threat, but rather simply saying a fact, when I say that any Republican member of the House or Senate who refuses to object to election fraud next week is basically finished as a leader in the Republican Party. Time to start packing!" / Twitter



Comment:
This could be the case that unravels the Georgia-Democrat-Abrams-Biden scheme to steal the state away from our president. Once this case is decided, all the other states will go for Trump on January 6th.
Hmm..., Leaked to the Washington Post, owned by Bezos who also owns Amazon where 90% of their merchandise is made in China.
Surely, Brad Raffensperger must realize that he has no future in Georgia electoral politics, especially with the GOP. Is he trying to ingratiate himself to the Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrats and the ChiComs? ...To whom or both? What is this idiot’s game plan?
Had Raffensperger completed a full and impartial audit and opened his ballots and machines to forensic analysis, he wouldn't be crying about the phone call.
Fulton County alone should be enough to turn the State, after being given a lawful order to Audit their vote, instead 4 hours later they were shredding the ballots they were required to audit.
To equate the President’s call with a pestering the SoS (POS) with minutia is beyond disrespect. In fact, it was the President being loyal to his oath on office, “To defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America”

OH NOES!! :laugh2:

Per O.C.G.A. 16-11-66, you can record a telephone conversation in Georgia if youare a party to the conversation (on the phone). The recording will typically be admissible evidence at any hearing or trial.
Rightards never learn.
 
Trying to be funny? Or do you have a better tape with time stamps, that can be paused or searched thru?? I'd venture a guess somewhere between 1/2 & 3/4 of the way thru, maybe? But I'm not going to listen thru the whole tape again just to prove your bias

Nah, wasn't being funny. Just got about 25 minutes through and all it was was Trump monopolising the conversation and telling Raffenberger and Germany et al how it was "I won the election, you know that. I got more votes, you know that." Didn't really want to waste another 40 minutes of my life listening to the rest of the charlatan's BS. Thought you might have specifics.

Of course I'm bias. Never hidden. I don't dislike Trump, I hate him. If he was to drop dead tomorrow I'd do a happy dance. Nothing to do with his presidency - always felt that way about him - years ago. Not a nice thing to say, but the amount of misery that sack of shit has brought to people doesn't make me feel bad about that.

In saying that, I agree with some of what you say. The tape is a bit of a beat up. I don't think he is being that intimidating, but I think he doesn't even realise that people could misinterpret what he is saying because he is clueless about nuance. He is so used to having 'yes' men and women around him, he doesn't understand when he is being inappropriate. He is just so used to getting his way all the time, that when he doesn't it's more of a "WTF?" attitude from him as opposed to pulling the wool over peoples' eyes. He genuinely believes there was fraud. Of that I have no doubt. The problem is, in Donald-land people just agree with him as a matter of course/ Why? Sycophants are like that. They want to ingratiate themselves with him. When you get genuine people like Raffenberger who are there to do a job and nothing else, even they're confused. Trump is wondering why they aren't playing ball. They're not 'playing ball' because, unlike Trump, they haven't spent years being manipulative, underhand and trying to win at all costs. They're just trying to do their job. And Trump just doesn't get it. Why would he. He's dumb as a sack of rocks.




No, trump doesn't believe there is fraud.

If he did he wouldn't have made that phone call.

All that call says to me is he knows that he lost and he knows all of the accusations of fraud are lies.

When he demanded that the SOS of Georgia "find him" votes he admitted he knew he lost.

If he believed it was all fraud, he would have said find the proof of fraud and expose it.

Add to the fact that in 2016 before the election and in 2020 before the election he kept saying it's all rigged. Setting up his lie for when he lost.

No, trump knows he lost in a fair and honest election.
 
Hey stupid, Georgia has no mandatory reporting law regarding election crimes. So it isn't illegal to ignore any election law violation.


The Georgia Secretary of State’s office is charged with administering elections and investigating allegations of election and voter fraud.
It means the Georgia Secretary of State MUST investigate election law violations.
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
america isnt a democracy you stupid fuck,,,
Dumbfuck, Georgia is a democracy and Impeached Trump threatened Georgia's Secretary of State with "vague criminal consequences" to "find" enough votes to overturn the will of Georgia's voters.

OH tell me more,,,
Don't need to as I already bitch-slapped you into reality.
I dont feel bitch slapped,,
So? You prolly also don't feel stupid.
why would I???

we are a republic not a democracy,,, and that includes the states,,
Because you are, as you demonstrate yet again. Again, Georgia, just as every other state, is a democracy.

b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
you do realize that proves me right dont you??
LOLOLOL

Only if you believe Georgians don't elect Georgia's state legislature -- which apparently, you don't believe. :ack-1:
I have to ask,, why didnt you put the definition of a republic up so we can compare the two??

I love how those who are willing to hand the nation over to an authoritarian dictatorship, want to deny that the USA is a democracy at all, and think that the will of the voters should not matter.

Trying the use the worry that a populist candidate might fool the electors, the Founders instituted the EC as a check against that possibility, but it didn't work. In fact, it has been used by an increasingly unpopular Republican Party to hold the White House against the will of the people - twice in the past 20 years.

In both cases where Republicans have managed to overcome the will of the people, the results have been disastrous. Corrupt, amoral administrations resulted, both of which crashed the American economy, resulting in an enormous transfer of wealth to the Republican donor class.

So try again, to come up with a better excuse for why you support overturning a legally conducted election for President, as set out in the Constitution, in favour of a lawless authoritarian?
shut the fuck up you canadian skank,, its none of your business,,

OH and we are a republic not a democracy,, if you were an american you would know that,,
Fawnboi claims to be America, and he doesn't know it.
LOLOL

I claim to be America?? Where have I ever claimed to be America? And where did I ever say America is not a Republic? Where did I ever say America is a democracy? And when are you ever not a dumbfuck?

So many questions -- so few answers.
not sure about all that,, but one thing is sure,,,

YOURE MENTAL!!!
LOL

Your tacit concession is duly noted and laughed at.
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
america isnt a democracy you stupid fuck,,,
Dumbfuck, Georgia is a democracy and Impeached Trump threatened Georgia's Secretary of State with "vague criminal consequences" to "find" enough votes to overturn the will of Georgia's voters.

OH tell me more,,,
Don't need to as I already bitch-slapped you into reality.
I dont feel bitch slapped,,
So? You prolly also don't feel stupid.
why would I???

we are a republic not a democracy,,, and that includes the states,,
Because you are, as you demonstrate yet again. Again, Georgia, just as every other state, is a democracy.

b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
you do realize that proves me right dont you??
LOLOLOL

Only if you believe Georgians don't elect Georgia's state legislature -- which apparently, you don't believe. :ack-1:
I have to ask,, why didnt you put the definition of a republic up so we can compare the two??

I love how those who are willing to hand the nation over to an authoritarian dictatorship, want to deny that the USA is a democracy at all, and think that the will of the voters should not matter.

Trying the use the worry that a populist candidate might fool the electors, the Founders instituted the EC as a check against that possibility, but it didn't work. In fact, it has been used by an increasingly unpopular Republican Party to hold the White House against the will of the people - twice in the past 20 years.

In both cases where Republicans have managed to overcome the will of the people, the results have been disastrous. Corrupt, amoral administrations resulted, both of which crashed the American economy, resulting in an enormous transfer of wealth to the Republican donor class.

So try again, to come up with a better excuse for why you support overturning a legally conducted election for President, as set out in the Constitution, in favour of a lawless authoritarian?
shut the fuck up you canadian skank,, its none of your business,,

OH and we are a republic not a democracy,, if you were an american you would know that,,
Fawnboi claims to be America, and he doesn't know it.
LOLOL

I claim to be America?? Where have I ever claimed to be America? And where did I ever say America is not a Republic? Where did I ever say America is a democracy? And when are you ever not a dumbfuck?

So many questions -- so few answers.
Poor Fawnboi, getting a chub over a typo.

How sad for you.
I note you failed to address the rest of my post.
 

Dr. Love, usually I find memes to be something I don't like. However, this one made me laugh, and I appreciate a good chuckle every now and again (especially in these times). Thank you for the laugh, and I wasn't being mean when I posted "funny", I was thanking you for the laugh. Yeah, Trump is gonna have some serious problems when he leaves office, and I don't think that Putin is gonna be willing to help him out with a loan.
 
Gee you chose to mock me, which means you can't address my post about NO charges found anywhere in the 400 plus page report which is 100% true and you know it!

No shit. Did you really think that squat toady called Barr running Justice would bring charges against his master while sucking his dick?

Thought not. now you know why I mocked you.

Your dishonest reply is off the charts, you once again ignored the central point about Mueller never posting Prosecution charges in HIS own report which the public reads 99% of the report.

It was MUELLER who didn't charge the President with a crime.

Your rationalization is stupid and dead on arrival.

Mueller found no evidence of a crime because Trump obstructed justice. Just because Mueller couldn’t compel Trump’s consigliere to testify doesn’t mean a crime didn’t occur.
You turds are so desperate it must hurt.
How embarrassing for you.
 
..just like all the other dumbshit--Mr Trump ties his shoes -IMPEACH him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Attempting to pressure a subordinate to "find some votes" is at best an abuse of power. Hardly insignificant.
but he's not pressuring --how many times are people going to spew shit---that's only your OPINION

Seriously? The POTUS, the LEADER of your PARTY, the LEADER of your NATION, who can politically wreck your career isn't "pressuring" when he spends an hour on the phone telling you you have to find some votes.

You guys must be a special kind of stupid...or maybe it's just the koolaid you consume.
Raffensperger wrecked his career all by himself.
Ya, integrity tends to be a career wrecker when it comes to Trumplicans.
"Integrity" my ass. Raffensperger is the one who made the decision to by the Dominion voting machines. He ran the election. If fraud is uncovered, then it's his ass hanging on the petard.
"Integrity" my ass. Raffensperger is the one who made the decision to by the Dominion voting machines. He ran the election. If fraud is uncovered, then it's his ass hanging on the petard
What’s wrong with the machines?

Have you been in a coma?
Have you been in a coma?

Yes. Please explain the problems you see with the dominion machines.
Then explain how the hand count in GA came to the same result as the machines.
Good luck getting a lucid response, if any response at all, to that.
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
america isnt a democracy you stupid fuck,,,
Dumbfuck, Georgia is a democracy and Impeached Trump threatened Georgia's Secretary of State with "vague criminal consequences" to "find" enough votes to overturn the will of Georgia's voters.

OH tell me more,,,
Don't need to as I already bitch-slapped you into reality.
I dont feel bitch slapped,,
So? You prolly also don't feel stupid.
why would I???

we are a republic not a democracy,,, and that includes the states,,
Because you are, as you demonstrate yet again. Again, Georgia, just as every other state, is a democracy.

b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
you do realize that proves me right dont you??
LOLOLOL

Only if you believe Georgians don't elect Georgia's state legislature -- which apparently, you don't believe. :ack-1:
I have to ask,, why didnt you put the definition of a republic up so we can compare the two??
I didn't have to since Georgia's form of government fits the definition of a "democracy."
no it doesnt,,,
LOL

Again...
b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

Once again, everyone here sees you don't believe that ^^^ is true of Georgia. Or any other state, presumably.
again why didnt you also post the def of a republic so we can compare them side by side??
its almost like youre trying to hide something,,,
Again, that's not my argument. So why would I post something I'm not arguing? My claim is that Georgia, and every one of the individual states, are democracies. And I proved that by posting the definition of a democracy, which absolutely applies to the states. Your inability to comprehend that is not my problem.
because if you did you would realize what youre saying is not true,,, thats why you wont post it,,
Again, that's not my argument. So why would I post something I'm not arguing? My claim is that Georgia, and every one of the individual states, are democracies. And I proved that by posting the definition of a democracy, which absolutely applies to the states. Your inability to comprehend that is not my problem.
your argument is wrong,, we are a republic not a democracy and what you posted proves it,,
Who's we?
ARE you saying you dont even know who we are talking about???
Well I was talking about Georgia but I'm not from Georgia. So "we" does not apply to me in that context. If you meant some other context, you should specify. Though I have little doubt you will.
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
america isnt a democracy you stupid fuck,,,
Dumbfuck, Georgia is a democracy and Impeached Trump threatened Georgia's Secretary of State with "vague criminal consequences" to "find" enough votes to overturn the will of Georgia's voters.
Funny how none of you libtards can quote the threat.
LOL

Nah, what's funny is that you're a raging imbecile.

"I think you’re going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and they’re brand new, and they don’t have seals, and there’s a whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt. And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal — it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know, what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk." ~ Impeached Trump
Cool.

Where is the threat, Dumbass?
"That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer." ~ Impeached Trump
Cool.

Where it the threat by EXONERATED TRUMP?
Dumbfuck, that's a threat of "vague criminal consequences." It's not my problem you lack the required intelligence to comprehend that.
It is?

You have quite the imagination.
It is. Telling someone they're at "risk" of committing a "criminal offense," which could result in incarceration, is absolutely a threat of "vague criminal consequences." But don't fret, I don't expect someone of your vacuity to understand that. Just go resume your utopia of snacking on paint chips dipped in mercury.
Odd.

I don't see anything about "incarceration" in the quote you provided.

The fact you continue to make up shit exposes how weak your position is, Moron.

You lose again, Fawnboi. :banana: :laughing0301: :banana: :laughing0301:
LOLOL

Are you ever not a dumbfuck? Ever???

I mean exactly how retarded are you to not know that committing crime produces a risk of incarceration?? :ack-1:
Hey stupid, Georgia has no mandatory reporting law regarding election crimes. So it isn't illegal to ignore any election law violation.

As such, there is no punishment, much less incarceration.

Do you ever get tired of me exposing what a colossal moron you are?

You lose again, Fawnboi. :banana: :laughing0301: :banana: :laughing0301:
Funny how Faun is ignoring this post.
Umm, I didn't ignore that post, dumbfuck.
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