Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

He would have provided all the proof he has of his claims of fraud. Instead he said he didn't need to provide any proof.

The cheaters are trump and those who are helping him to cheat.

Trump has all the evidence that his legal team has of voter fraud.
Trump has all the evidence that the FBI has of voter fraud.
Trump has all the evidence that the DOJ has of voter fraud.

And sadly, that just proves there's no evidence or Trump would have produced it.
 
Yet, you most likely turn a blind eye to Biden's graft....Why is that?
Because it's a RWNJ fantasy

GAFAW! What?!!!! fantasy? the FBI doesn't investigate fantasies....

Of course they do. The FBI has been investigating all of the Republican fantasies that the Clintons are criminals, for decades, and found NOTHING. Republicans have completely politicized FBI investigations against Democrats, and yet it's mostly the Republicans who keep going to jail when the FBI investigates.

Ha! bullshit....Good grief you are full of it....Thank God Canada has you....

When you can't refute the post, you attack the poster. Just like when Republicans can't run on their records, they smear the opposition with baseless claims that the other side is "corrupt". It worked on Hillary because Republicans have spent 30 years demonizing and lying about the Clintons, but it didn't work on Joe Biden, at all.

Fool me once, shame on you . . . . But also, because Trump has a record to run on, and so does Joe, and Joe's record on reviving a crashed economy, is a whole lot better than Dumb Donald's, and DD is the guy who crashed it in the first place.

Every other first world country has managed to control the virus and NOT crash their economies. In fact, controlled the virus has been central to our success in not crashing our economy. We don't have to pay for hundreds of millions of tests, or for extended hospital stays for the 20% of people who test positive and require acute care.

Your economy is crashed, your people are dying, and you want to keep the man responsible for this mess in power. Why?
 
"A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process,

Why would Trump get jail time for stuff that Dems are doing?
Because there is evidence right here on tape that Trump is tampering.

BUT There is no evidence of fraud or tampering in the Pres election and 59 state courts have said as much, and the Supreme court, and Barr, and all the Dept of Defense. And the Sec of State of Georgia and everybody with a brain...

How did his call "knowingly and willfully deprive(s), defraud(s), or attempt(s) to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process"?
The argument is that he was implying the Governor use his influence to commit illegal acts. Which, while we all know is true, cannot be proven in court with his words alone. I wouldn't think so, anyway.

He was talking to the Secretary of State, which I think is a prime example of a conflict of interest.

Trump never should have argued with Brad over the votes.

You are coming across as an idiot.

You were shown the definition of Conflict of Interest, too bad you ignored it, that makes YOU the idiot.

Investopedia

What Is a Conflict of Interest?
A conflict of interest occurs when an entity or individual becomes unreliable because of a clash between personal (or self-serving) interests and professional duties or responsibilities. Such a conflict occurs when a company or person has a vested interest—such as money, status, knowledge, relationships, or reputation—which puts into question whether their actions, judgment, and/or decision-making can be unbiased. When such a situation arises, the party is usually asked to remove themselves, and it is often legally required of them.

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Trump as the INDIVIDUAL who has a VESTED interest in having 11,780 votes changed to his side to increase his chance of getting reelected, while showing that he isn't UNBIASED and should never been there in the first place.

This 101 stuff, you going to continue down the road with YOUR idiocy in denying the obvious?
Did Nazi Pelousy have a "conflict of interest" when she violated Kung Flu protocols of the House by forcing all member to return to vote in person for her as Speaker?

I'll await your call for her to resign.
Is Speaker Pelosi the topic of this thread? Or is this a desperate attempt to deflect on your part?
 
He would have provided all the proof he has of his claims of fraud. Instead he said he didn't need to provide any proof.

The cheaters are trump and those who are helping him to cheat.

Trump has all the evidence that his legal team has of voter fraud.
Trump has all the evidence that the FBI has of voter fraud.
Trump has all the evidence that the DOJ has of voter fraud.

And sadly, that just proves there's no evidence or Trump would have produced it.

Correct ^ Donald's "evidence" consists of the crap his fellow cult members found on 4Chan and QAnon.
 
There is nothing illegal here.... dumb? yes. Heresay? yes
WIth all of this - obviously what is being ignored is we have two state officials who recorded a conversation with the President so they could give or sell it to the media.
It wasn't leaked. It was provided.
Is that illegal?
Have you looked at Georgia and Federal laws related to it?

If a democratic president had done what he did, would you be defending the Democratic president that lost his second term, for the same actions as Trump has done?
Yep. I would. You will never find one post from me discussing impeaching Obama. I thought the WJC impeachment was stupid too. Trump is done in less than three weeks. Who will you blame for all your ills then? Scapegoat will be long gone. Issues will still be here.

Trump is a criminal. Do we accept that?
In America you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Do we still accept that?
Only in court. If you did it, you are guilty whether it can be proved or not.
I guess you live in a different version of America than I do since here the courts determine guilt and or innocence.
These are the same people who like to say Hillary Clinton has never done anything wrong.
It's laughable
Wrong and criminal are vastly different. Wrong/Right is subjective. Criminal is objective.
Everyone knows the intent was corrupt. It will be added to his corrupt legacy.
Everyone? Every singe person in the world?


Trump does that often.. He says. "Everyone hates you or everyone is angry with you."
It can't be too comfortable to tell the President that he's full of shit:
Or that he and Brian Kemp are stealing Trump blind. He's busy stealing votes from Trump while
Trump is asking him to find some.

Raffensperger and Kemp are two rino republicans who sunk millions into Dominion vote stealing machines
for the entire state who should actually be in jail for election fraud, of which there is much in Georgia.

It's a hoot that all you folks crying over the past two months over election irregularities can't present anything but innuendo and then when it hits you in your face you're in denial. Tell us, in all the manual recounts of paper ballots conducted where did they come up with a descrepancy caused by those Dominion voting machines?
It's a hoot how your idiot-mesmerizing press omits facts that support President Trump but plan, edit, and publish lying lies that Demmies rejoice in that were actually the sins of the Clinton war room, George Soros, and rich tricksters who cheated other people out of their intellectual properties, then turned around making billions off someone else's brain trust, and if it feels good it's a drug for gullible people who fall for lies that will bury the Constitution in commie hands. Commies make laws that lead to mass murders of peaceful dissenters. Its proponents don't want even a whisper of opposition, by any means possible including slavery, justice only for themselves, death to dissenters.

Too lazy to move to a real communist society, today's communists prefer telling sweet nothings and cheating at the polls by insider deep state operators with preplanned silencers of the truth. With support of the ignorant and preaching Alinskies tried and true methods, they fool most of the people most of the time usurping thespian tricks to make cheap mush seem like caviar to the unchary.

Poor Trump.. He's been a victim for 40 years.
 
It can't be too comfortable to tell the President that he's full of shit:
Or that he and Brian Kemp are stealing Trump blind. He's busy stealing votes from Trump while
Trump is asking him to find some.

Raffensperger and Kemp are two rino republicans who sunk millions into Dominion vote stealing machines
for the entire state who should actually be in jail for election fraud, of which there is much in Georgia.

It's a hoot that all you folks crying over the past two months over election irregularities can't present anything but innuendo and then when it hits you in your face you're in denial. Tell us, in all the manual recounts of paper ballots conducted where did they come up with a descrepancy caused by those Dominion voting machines?
It's a hoot how your idiot-mesmerizing press omits facts that support President Trump but plan, edit, and publish lying lies that Demmies rejoice in that were actually the sins of the Clinton war room, George Soros, and rich tricksters who cheated other people out of their intellectual properties, then turned around making billions off someone else's brain trust, and if it feels good it's a drug for gullible people who fall for lies that will bury the Constitution in commie hands. Commies make laws that lead to mass murders of peaceful dissenters. Its proponents don't want even a whisper of opposition, by any means possible including slavery, justice only for themselves, death to dissenters.

Too lazy to move to a real communist society, today's communists prefer telling sweet nothings and cheating at the polls by insider deep state operators with preplanned silencers of the truth. With support of the ignorant and preaching Alinskies tried and true methods, they fool most of the people most of the time usurping thespian tricks to make cheap mush seem like caviar to the unchary.

Trump is determined to overthrow the election.

He already won. Democrats used every surreptitious trick in the book to steal it for Mother Communista. It takes time and patience to peel the onion. Trump fought every lie the Demonrats hurled at him. He is not breaking any laws going after the truth, and I support him and hope he beats the thugs of the left seeking raw revenge for criminal masterminds Rodham Clinton, Hussein Obama, Maxugly StalkingWaters, Upchuck Shoekickmer, Cheapshot Piglosi, Jarrold-Adam Des Asters, Extortion Joe Bidingtime, et al Demonrat press propaganda specialists.
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Not just a river in Egypt.
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
The Washington Compost. A left wing rag. Of course we should all believe what that rag says. LOL
 
Corrupt?... I don't think necessarily. Trump believes, right or wrong, that there are certainly enough illegal/unauthorized/questionable votes in GA to overturn the outcome.
So what? He doesn't care how the votes are found. All judicial avenues have been exhausted.
You gotta admit you are skirting the question.
I asked, is finding enough votes that ARE invalid corrupt?
Or is the system that ignored and allowed those votes corrupt?
Trump is Trump. He is a 74 year old $billionaire. This guy has been bending rules his whole career. And so does every single other wealthy, successful person.
What he is saying to them is not illegal. He is voicing aggravation that it didn't go his way, knows that he really did win if they would "correct the problem"....
The corruption of this is far-far-far-far-far less than the encyclopedia of REAL corruption that has existed in the White House for over 40 years now.
Right, he always bends and breaks the rules. That is corruption. Yes, we all know his intent is corrupt. I won't say it could be proven in court.
 
Right, he always bends and breaks the rules. That is corruption. Yes, we all know his intent is corrupt. I won't say it could be proven in court.

They proved it with Trump University, and with the Trump Charitable Foundation.

The only reason they haven't in the last 4 years, is that the president is shielded from indictment by the Office of Legal Counsels opinion.
 
There is nothing illegal here.... dumb? yes. Heresay? yes
WIth all of this - obviously what is being ignored is we have two state officials who recorded a conversation with the President so they could give or sell it to the media.
It wasn't leaked. It was provided.
Is that illegal?
Have you looked at Georgia and Federal laws related to it?

If a democratic president had done what he did, would you be defending the Democratic president that lost his second term, for the same actions as Trump has done?
Yep. I would. You will never find one post from me discussing impeaching Obama. I thought the WJC impeachment was stupid too. Trump is done in less than three weeks. Who will you blame for all your ills then? Scapegoat will be long gone. Issues will still be here.

Trump is a criminal. Do we accept that?
In America you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Do we still accept that?
Only in court. If you did it, you are guilty whether it can be proved or not.
I guess you live in a different version of America than I do since here the courts determine guilt and or innocence.
These are the same people who like to say Hillary Clinton has never done anything wrong.
It's laughable
Wrong and criminal are vastly different. Wrong/Right is subjective. Criminal is objective.
Everyone knows the intent was corrupt. It will be added to his corrupt legacy.
Everyone? Every singe person in the world?


Trump does that often.. He says. "Everyone hates you or everyone is angry with you."
It can't be too comfortable to tell the President that he's full of shit:
Or that he and Brian Kemp are stealing Trump blind. He's busy stealing votes from Trump while
Trump is asking him to find some.

Raffensperger and Kemp are two rino republicans who sunk millions into Dominion vote stealing machines
for the entire state who should actually be in jail for election fraud, of which there is much in Georgia.

It's a hoot that all you folks crying over the past two months over election irregularities can't present anything but innuendo and then when it hits you in your face you're in denial. Tell us, in all the manual recounts of paper ballots conducted where did they come up with a descrepancy caused by those Dominion voting machines?
It's a hoot how your idiot-mesmerizing press omits facts that support President Trump but plan, edit, and publish lying lies that Demmies rejoice in that were actually the sins of the Clinton war room, George Soros, and rich tricksters who cheated other people out of their intellectual properties, then turned around making billions off someone else's brain trust, and if it feels good it's a drug for gullible people who fall for lies that will bury the Constitution in commie hands. Commies make laws that lead to mass murders of peaceful dissenters. Its proponents don't want even a whisper of opposition, by any means possible including slavery, justice only for themselves, death to dissenters.

Too lazy to move to a real communist society, today's communists prefer telling sweet nothings and cheating at the polls by insider deep state operators with preplanned silencers of the truth. With support of the ignorant and preaching Alinskies tried and true methods, they fool most of the people most of the time usurping thespian tricks to make cheap mush seem like caviar to the unchary.

Poor Trump.. He's been a victim for 40 years.
Hyperbole is Trump's calling card. Still to me he was a very good President.
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
The Washington Compost. A left wing rag. Of course we should all believe what that rag says. LOL

Another one ^ who didn't bother listening to the one hour phone call because WaPo doctored it. Sad :confused:

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President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
He just pulled a Biden, urkraine style. Nothing to see, right?
 
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.



Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?
The Washington Compost. A left wing rag. Of course we should all believe what that rag says. LOL

Another one ^ who didn't bother listening to the one hour phone call because WaPo doctored it. Sad :confused:

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LMAO A phone call in sedition?? I doubt that. You people are bat shit crazy.
 
The call was inappropriate.

The Georgia Sec State should never have agreed to talk to one candidate in the election without including the other candidate.

Trump: Find enough votes until I am elected

You always have to accept a call from the president of the united states. But it was not only wildly inappropriate, but also illegal.

I haven't been keeping track of Trumps lawsuit over the release of the audio tape, but it doesn't look good when they have him on tape asking a state official to "find" aka illegally create, 11,780 votes and certify them for Trump.

"You always have to accept a call from the president of the united states"? Really? Last I checked, this was still a free country, and if other idiots don't have to wear masks, I don't have to accept a call from the president. Matter of fact, if Trump were to call my phone, and I heard the secretary tell me that I was getting a call from him, I would tell them to fuck off as I don't want to talk to an idiot.

If Trump showed up on my front porch and knocked on my door? I'd probably end up in jail for assault, as the thing I would want to do first is punch him in the nose.

No. I don't have to accept a call from the president. In most cases, I probably would, as most people consider it an honor, but if Trump called, I would say to fuck off, as I don't like to talk to people I know are idiots.



I would tell my assistant to take a message.

If he showed up at my door, I would slam it in his face then I would tell him to get off my property before I called the police to report a trespasser on my privately owned property. If he didn't leave, I would pull my phone out to make that call to the police.

trump isn't worth the legal problems of hitting him in the face.
 
There is nothing illegal here.... dumb? yes. Heresay? yes
WIth all of this - obviously what is being ignored is we have two state officials who recorded a conversation with the President so they could give or sell it to the media.
It wasn't leaked. It was provided.
Is that illegal?
Have you looked at Georgia and Federal laws related to it?

If a democratic president had done what he did, would you be defending the Democratic president that lost his second term, for the same actions as Trump has done?
Yep. I would. You will never find one post from me discussing impeaching Obama. I thought the WJC impeachment was stupid too. Trump is done in less than three weeks. Who will you blame for all your ills then? Scapegoat will be long gone. Issues will still be here.

Trump is a criminal. Do we accept that?
In America you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Do we still accept that?
Only in court. If you did it, you are guilty whether it can be proved or not.
I guess you live in a different version of America than I do since here the courts determine guilt and or innocence.
These are the same people who like to say Hillary Clinton has never done anything wrong.
It's laughable
Wrong and criminal are vastly different. Wrong/Right is subjective. Criminal is objective.
Everyone knows the intent was corrupt. It will be added to his corrupt legacy.
Everyone? Every singe person in the world?


Trump does that often.. He says. "Everyone hates you or everyone is angry with you."
It can't be too comfortable to tell the President that he's full of shit:
Or that he and Brian Kemp are stealing Trump blind. He's busy stealing votes from Trump while
Trump is asking him to find some.

Raffensperger and Kemp are two rino republicans who sunk millions into Dominion vote stealing machines
for the entire state who should actually be in jail for election fraud, of which there is much in Georgia.

It's a hoot that all you folks crying over the past two months over election irregularities can't present anything but innuendo and then when it hits you in your face you're in denial. Tell us, in all the manual recounts of paper ballots conducted where did they come up with a descrepancy caused by those Dominion voting machines?
It's a hoot how your idiot-mesmerizing press omits facts that support President Trump but plan, edit, and publish lying lies that Demmies rejoice in that were actually the sins of the Clinton war room, George Soros, and rich tricksters who cheated other people out of their intellectual properties, then turned around making billions off someone else's brain trust, and if it feels good it's a drug for gullible people who fall for lies that will bury the Constitution in commie hands. Commies make laws that lead to mass murders of peaceful dissenters. Its proponents don't want even a whisper of opposition, by any means possible including slavery, justice only for themselves, death to dissenters.

Too lazy to move to a real communist society, today's communists prefer telling sweet nothings and cheating at the polls by insider deep state operators with preplanned silencers of the truth. With support of the ignorant and preaching Alinskies tried and true methods, they fool most of the people most of the time usurping thespian tricks to make cheap mush seem like caviar to the unchary.

Poor Trump.. He's been a victim for 40 years.
Hyperbole is Trump's calling card. Still to me he was a very good President.

That he was. In his four years he did great for this country and you can bet Biden will undo it all. This country was in great shape before the very convenient Chinese Virus hit. We sure won't get that greatness back with Biden at the helm.

If that jack ass gets in we will have four years of misery in this country and those that voted for his stupid ass will be regretting it big time.
 
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"A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process,

Why would Trump get jail time for stuff that Dems are doing?
Because there is evidence right here on tape that Trump is tampering.

BUT There is no evidence of fraud or tampering in the Pres election and 59 state courts have said as much, and the Supreme court, and Barr, and all the Dept of Defense. And the Sec of State of Georgia and everybody with a brain...

How did his call "knowingly and willfully deprive(s), defraud(s), or attempt(s) to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process"?
The argument is that he was implying the Governor use his influence to commit illegal acts. Which, while we all know is true, cannot be proven in court with his words alone. I wouldn't think so, anyway.

He was talking to the Secretary of State, which I think is a prime example of a conflict of interest.

Trump never should have argued with Brad over the votes.

You are coming across as an idiot.

You were shown the definition of Conflict of Interest, too bad you ignored it, that makes YOU the idiot.

Investopedia

What Is a Conflict of Interest?
A conflict of interest occurs when an entity or individual becomes unreliable because of a clash between personal (or self-serving) interests and professional duties or responsibilities. Such a conflict occurs when a company or person has a vested interest—such as money, status, knowledge, relationships, or reputation—which puts into question whether their actions, judgment, and/or decision-making can be unbiased. When such a situation arises, the party is usually asked to remove themselves, and it is often legally required of them.

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Trump as the INDIVIDUAL who has a VESTED interest in having 11,780 votes changed to his side to increase his chance of getting reelected, while showing that he isn't UNBIASED and should never been there in the first place.

This 101 stuff, you going to continue down the road with YOUR idiocy in denying the obvious?
Did Nazi Pelousy have a "conflict of interest" when she violated Kung Flu protocols of the House by forcing all member to return to vote in person for her as Speaker?

I'll await your call for her to resign.

Nancy Pelosi was following House Protocols for the incoming administration, and since House members have all had ample opportunity to get vaccinated, no she did not, but nice attempt at deflection "FuckBoi".

Truly hope Trump faces election tampering charges in all of this because I'm willing to bet that this wasn't the only such call that went out. Perhaps that explains the moves in the PA legislature, as well as MI and AZ, to launch investigations, or attempts to decertify.

If so, this is election fraud on a massive scale, and everyone who was with Trump and participated in these phone calls should be arrested, tried and, if convicted, sent to jail.
 

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