Was Ukraine a threat to Russia before start of Russian military operation?

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This thread isn’t about reasons why “Crimea has joined Russia” – it is the Russian wording for your “take-over”.

This question is not so simple as you have described “It would be like Mexico seizing Texas because it has a large population of ethnic Mexicans living there!”, “this has nothing to do with Ukrainian legislation” etc.

Citizens of Mexican origin aren’t the majority in Texas; there isn’t division of Texas citizens into first-grade, second-grade and third-grade citizens according to their ethnic origin like in Ukraine and so on.

This thread deals with the question: Is a military operation of a country A against a country B really unprovoked and unjustified when the country B prepares military measures to take from the country A a part which the country A considers to be its own?
Wow, you are truly ignorant as can be!

1. The majority is growing to be Hispanic in Texas, so with your premise Mexico can invade and claim that Texas or California belongs to them.

2. The disputed region was Ukraine and not Russia and the Ukraine had every right to invade and take it back but Russia did not have the right to take that disputed land first and then take more land and then even claim they had the right to all of Ukraine!

Yes, Putin want all of Ukraine!

3. This has to do with Putin wanting to put his own man in charge of the Ukraine so he can exploit the country, so let cut the bullshit and just admit this was a power grab by Putin and he wanted his own man in power and nothing more!
 
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So did The Fuhrer of the Third Reich and his aryan people. Maybe it's time to put him on the cover of the "Time" again?
…?? Fuhrer invaded and annexed other countries, claiming that ethnic Germans there need protection and that those lands are historically German.

Who is doing that today? Putin or Zelensky?

Think hard idiot, real hard.
 
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…?? Fuhrer invaded and annexed other countries, claiming that ethnic Germans there need protection and that those lands are historically German.
Who is doing that today? Putin or Zelensky?
Think hard idiot, real hard.
Cretin, when the USSR attacked Japan in August 1945, was he also an "aggressor" like Russia today? You stupid piece of shit
 
Cretin, when the USSR attacked Japan in August 1945, was he also an "aggressor" like Russia today? You stupid piece of shit
USSR also invaded Poland together with Nazis, agreeing to split the country in 1939. So yes, absolutely USSR was an aggressor until they themselves were attacked by Nazis.

Japan invaded United States, who by 1945 was allied with USSR against the Axis countries.
 
USSR also invaded Poland together with Nazis, agreeing to split the country in 1939. So yes, absolutely USSR was an aggressor until they themselves were attacked by Nazis.
Japan invaded United States, who by 1945 was allied with USSR against the Axis countries.
The USSR crossed the border of Poland on September 17, when Poland ceased to exist as an independent state (on that day, the government of Poland fled to Romania). According to such a scoundrel as you, the USSR should have allowed Germany to occupy all of Poland and come closer to the center of the USSR? Fuck you.
As for Japan, the USSR fulfilled its allied obligations to the minute. Stalin promised that war with Japan would be launched three months after the end of the war in Europe. May 9 - August 9.
Unlike the United States and Britain, which promised to launch a Second Front in Europe in 1942 and 1943
By the way, if such a fool as you remember the invasion of Italy in 1943, then at the time of the end of the war, the Allied troops were still in Italy. Biiiiiiig help to Eastern front!
 
So did The Fuhrer of the Third Reich and his aryan people. Maybe it's time to put him on the cover of the "Time" again?
The Fuhrer of the third Reich started his rreign of terror by invading peaceful Poland. putin invading the Ukraine, is a much better comparison to Hitler. You picked a very poor analogy. If anything Russia is the new third Reich.
 
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The USSR crossed the border of Poland on September 17, when Poland ceased to exist as an independent state (on that day, the government of Poland fled to Romania). According to such a scoundrel as you, the USSR should have allowed Germany to occupy all of Poland and come closer to the center of the USSR? Fuck you.
As for Japan, the USSR fulfilled its allied obligations to the minute. Stalin promised that war with Japan would be launched three months after the end of the war in Europe. May 9 - August 9.
Unlike the United States and Britain, which promised to launch a Second Front in Europe in 1942 and 1943
By the way, if such a fool as you remember the invasion of Italy in 1943, then at the time of the end of the war, the Allied troops were still in Italy. Biiiiiiig help to Eastern front!
Poland never cease to exist, it was just conquered and devastated by Russia. Ask the Polish people if they ever trust Russia again. Trust is earned by good acts not terrorism. After they regained their freedom from Russia, they joined NATO as soon as I could. Because they knew what an threat and enemy Russia was.
 
The USSR crossed the border of Poland on September 17, when Poland ceased to exist as an independent state (on that day, the government of Poland fled to Romania). According to such a scoundrel as you, the USSR should have allowed Germany to occupy all of Poland and come closer to the center of the USSR? Fuck you.
As for Japan, the USSR fulfilled its allied obligations to the minute. Stalin promised that war with Japan would be launched three months after the end of the war in Europe. May 9 - August 9.
Unlike the United States and Britain, which promised to launch a Second Front in Europe in 1942 and 1943
By the way, if such a fool as you remember the invasion of Italy in 1943, then at the time of the end of the war, the Allied troops were still in Italy. Biiiiiiig help to Eastern front!
Horseshit, Poland was invaded, so was Ukraine.

Full of shit Stalinist apologists like you just can't admit the obvious.
 

I wonder if russians will ever understand, that communicating with ANY Western politician they should take into account that he is at best a liar, and at worst a criminal and a scoundrel? And of course, also a liar.
 
I'm sure in your mind they were threatening Nazi Germany.
No, asshole. They planned and dreamed of defeating the USSR in alliance with Germany. But Hitler preferred to have рoles as slaves and cannon fodder, than allies. It is no accident, that Churchill called Poland of the 1930s the "Hyena of Europe".

"...In 1926, a military coup took place in Poland, as a result of which the dictatorial regime of Jozef Pilsudski, known in history as the rehabilitation regime, was established. After the coup, the role of parliament was reduced to a minimum, opposition to the Pilsudski regime was suppressed, and the Communist Party was banned. This state of affairs was enshrined in the Constitution of 1935, and in the next 4 years there was a struggle between the nationalist and centrist groups of supporters of the rehabilitation regime.

The Pilsudski regime had difficult relations with the USSR — Poland adhered to anti-Soviet positions in foreign policy, although the outbreak of a new war was unlikely, especially after the signing of the non-aggression pact in 1932. The consequence of the anti—Soviet position was rapprochement with Germany - in 1933, the Polish government instructed the Polish ambassador to Germany to inform Hitler that with the latter's coming to power, Polish-German relations improved, Polish officials also made it clear that they would take a pro-German position in a potential Soviet-German war and openly opposed the USSR's attempts to create a system of collective security in Europe, in particular, by jointly refusing with Germany to sign the 1934 Eastern Pact..."

"..The fascinating process of the partition of Czechoslovakia itself began not in September 1938, but a few months earlier. A simple chronology of events speaks about the role of Poland in the partition of Czechoslovakia much more convincingly than any logical calculations.

On January 14, Adolf Hitler is visited by the Polish Foreign Minister (actually the second person of the state) Jozef Beck. After that, Germany begins to put forward demands for the observance of the rights of Sudeten Germans, and Poland — for the observance of the rights of Tesin Poles. Both Berlin and Warsaw threaten Czechoslovakia with military actions, and at that time the "muscles" of Poland seem to many more impressive than the German ones.

In addition, the words of the Poles do not differ from the case: by order of the "Supreme Marshal" Edward Rydz-Smigly, in May 1938, three infantry divisions, a Greater Poland Cavalry brigade and a motorized brigade were concentrated in the area of Czech Tesin.

Moreover, in August, the paramilitarist "Volunteer Corps for the Liberation of Teshin" is being created. Simply put, these are militants who immediately deploy "disturbing actions". That is, they cross the border, attack Czech border guards and policemen, and then hide in Poland.
In the same August 1938, Jozef Beck showed himself not just as a loyal ally of Germany in the Czech issue, but also as a non-ordinary player on the geopolitical board of Europe. It is he who pushes in Berlin his plan for the final solution of the Czech question, according to which Tesin Silesia goes to Poland, Slovakia and Transcarpathian Rus — Hungary, the rest of the lands — Germany. That's exactly what happened afterwards.

In September 1938, the Polish "disturbing actions" on the border with the Czech Republic escalate into an almost full-fledged war. Hand grenades and machine guns are used. The account of the Czech victims goes to dozens, if not hundreds: in the Czech town of Konska on September 25, two buildings burned down, which were pelted with grenades. At the same time, the Frishtat railway station burned down.

On September 29, 1938, a meeting dedicated to the Sudetenland question opens in Munich. Poland does not participate directly in the meeting itself: the "big guys" are sorting it out there. But Polish diplomats in London and Paris are putting all their might on their English and French colleagues: "We insist on an equal approach to solving the problems of the German Sudetenland and the Polish Tesin!"

On October 2, 1938, Polish troops completely occupied Teszyn during Operation Zaluzhye. Previously, an agreement was reached between Berlin and Warsaw on the demarcation line between Polish and German troops.
On October 9, "Gazeta Polska" publishes an editorial: "The road open to us to a sovereign, leading role in our part of Europe requires enormous efforts in the near future." But the poles were allowed to "lead" Eastern Europe for only 11 months.
 
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I wonder if russians will ever understand, that communicating with ANY Western politician they should take into account that he is at best a liar, and at worst a criminal and a scoundrel? And of course, also a liar.
" These are just war games. I'm not going to invade the Ukraine. "- Putin.
 
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I wonder if russians will ever understand, that communicating with ANY Western politician they should take into account that he is at best a liar, and at worst a criminal and a scoundrel? And of course, also a liar.
I.e. the words of Angela Merkel, that Germany, France and Ukraine signed Minsk agreements only to deceive Russia and none of them initially didn't intend to perform, and sanctions for failure to comply with(?!!) imposed on the Russian Federation?! The usual behavior of hypocritical scoundrels.
 
I.e. the words of Angela Merkel, that Germany, France and Ukraine signed Minsk agreements only to deceive Russia and none of them initially didn't intend to perform, and sanctions for failure to comply with(?!!) imposed on the Russian Federation?! The usual behavior of hypocritical scoundrels.
Right ! Blame others for Russia's attacking the Ukraine. You are such a joke. How can anybody twist things that much. Putin said, " it's only war games. " Right before he invaded the Ukraine. Total liar, total madman, total thug, total war criminal. When the Russian people finally get rid of putin. Hanging wouldn't be enough, they need to hang him upside down and then quarter his body. While he still breathing. That sounds like justice to the end of a life of a lying, murdering, x-kgb thug.
 
Merkel's admission that Germany and other countries were not going to implement the Minsk Agreements became another nail in the coffin of Europe as a significant subject of international politics, where the same laws work as in human society.: If you keep your word, you are respected.
Germany and France must pay compensation to the residents of Donbass.

The current situation in Ukraine is a consequence of the false policy of the leaders of these states.
First in 2014.The Foreign Ministers of Germany and France signed a document between the Ukrainian authorities and the opposition as guarantors of the peaceful development of events.
It all ended with a coup d'etat in Kiev and the genocide of the 6 million population of Donbass.
Then Germany and France participated in the conclusion of the Minsk agreements.
But, as Merkel said, no one planned to fulfill them, calling it an attempt to give Ukraine time for its militarization.
A pre-planned failure to fulfill the obligations assumed as a result of signing an international agreement is not only a loss of trust, but also a crime for which the signatories of the Minsk agreements — Merkel, Hollande and Poroshenko must answer.
The people of Europe need to know to whom they are indebted: the lack of heat, electricity, huge inflation, closing businesses. Merkel's confessions Germany and France bear moral and material responsibility for what is happening in Ukraine.
 
Right ! Blame others for Russia's attacking the Ukraine. You are such a joke. How can anybody twist things that much. Putin said, " it's only war games. " Right before he invaded the Ukraine.
Lying freak, Ukraine was given every opportunity to avoid war. In response to the concentration of its gangs (110 thousand) on the borders of Donbass, Russia recognized (finally, it should have been done in 2014) Lugansk and Donetsk republics as independent states. Two days before the start of the operation.
And how did nazi Ukraine respond? She not only intensified the shelling of Donbass, but also began active hostilities on the borders. The nazis only understand the language of force. Just like their masters in the West.
 
Lying freak, Ukraine was given every opportunity to avoid war. In response to the concentration of its gangs (110 thousand) on the borders of Donbass, Russia recognized (finally, it should have been done in 2014) Lugansk and Donetsk republics as independent states. Two days before the start of the operation.
And how did nazi Ukraine respond? She not only intensified the shelling of Donbass, but also began active hostilities on the borders. The nazis only understand the language of force. Just like their masters in the West.
What the hell do you think Russia or America or any other country would do if another country recognizes their sovereign territory as "independent republics"?

They take their army if they have one and rightfully go reclaim their lands from invaders and separatists you dumb fucking idiot.

The oblivious nonsense Stalinist tools like you peddle makes my blood boil.
 
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