Zone1 Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?

[Kruska]

The Bible condemns such practices (the 'way of the heathen'). Next argument.

The Bible states that pure religion is helping others and keeping oneself unspotted by the world (your world).

Why don't you join into a running Bible thread?? - this one is about proving that a Garden of Eden with Adam&Eve, existed.
And YOUR Bible doesn't prove anything, merely spells out what some Hebrews wrote up themselves - until today.

 

[Woodznutz]

this one is about proving that a Garden of Eden with Adam&Eve, existed.
And YOUR Bible doesn't prove anything, merely spells out what some Hebrews wrote up themselves - until today.

Why don't you join into a running Bible thread?? - this one is about proving that a Garden of Eden with Adam&Eve, existed.
And YOUR Bible doesn't prove anything, merely spells out what some Hebrews wrote up themselves - until today.

I have no need to join such a thread.

No one is trying to prove anything, just expressing what we believe.

 

[Frankenstein]

Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?​

Only for people like you - believing in kiddo books, fairy tales, ghosts and non scientific proven assumptions.
How a person living in the 21st century can - with all the science and archeological evidence available - keep his fantasy about Adam&Eve, alive, only proves his inability to think for himself.

Thing is, you are a believer, every human has the innate knowledge of God in the them you just suppress it, you just refuse to admit it and be saved, why else would you even comment on the subject, why would you spend so much time arguing your unbelief!

 

[Frankenstein]

Why don't you join into a running Bible thread?? - this one is about proving that a Garden of Eden with Adam&Eve, existed.
And YOUR Bible doesn't prove anything, merely spells out what some Hebrews wrote up themselves - until today.

The Bible is the most accurately transmitted book from the ancient world. No other ancient book has as many, as early, or more accurately copied manuscripts.

 

[ding]

I couldn't care less about what religion you supposedly "adhere" to.
You are citing the Bible - terming it's very initial "creation" claims, (supposedly God's spoken words) to be a parable - then you call those who do not believe in the Bible - Devil Worshipers.

You are just a plain religious nut

I think you are over reacting.

 

[ding]

Certainly not in regards to mankind's history - only in religious claimed history, deriving from a self-written fantasy book, that doesn't behold any scientific approach.

These accounts were how ancient man passed down knowledge. You aren't looking at these accounts in the proper context.

 

[ding]

Anyway, I am sure that you are aware about my "stand" in regards to religion. And that I place my "believes" onto proven scientific facts.

You mean like the universe spontaneously popped into existence and then light appeared after matter decoupled from radiation?

The Early Universe

pages.uoregon.edu

In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth and the earth was without form or shape, with darkness over the abyss and a mighty wind sweeping over the waters— Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.

 

[ding]

science clearly refutes the idea and necessity of a "superior creator"

How so? What happened before the beginning of the universe or what exists outside of the universe is the realm of philosophy, not science.

 

[ding]

The Bible is nothing else, but a "man's experimentation in spiritual matters" since it was "composed"/written by man - who's religious believers claim until today - without ever having any proof - that is is supposedly based onto a collection of God's words.

It's a little more complex than that. It was how they recorded and passed down their history, information, knowledge and wisdom to future generations. As for being God's word... the books were written by fallible men who were inspired by the Holy Spirit which used their fallibility to write these accounts in certain ways for certain purposes known only to the infallible Holy Spirit. Not much different than how we navigate the complexities of life today. In a logical universe everything is connected to everything else.

 

[ding]

And YOUR Bible doesn't prove anything, merely spells out what some Hebrews wrote up themselves - until today.

It's pretty amazing to watch you offhandedly dismiss ancient tests that have survived thousands of years after being passed down orally for thousands of years that most of humanity recognizes as being important. I don't believe you are viewing these texts in the proper context.

 

[surada]

It's pretty amazing to watch you offhandedly dismiss ancient tests that have survived thousands of years after being passed down orally for thousands of years that most of humanity recognizes as being important. I don't believe you are viewing these texts in the proper context.

They borrowed stories from the cultures around them.. like Egypt, Sumer, Babylon and the Ugarit. They are teaching narratives not science or history. Aesop's Fables were written around the same time.

 

[ding]

They borrowed stories from the cultures around them.. like Egypt, Sumer, Babylon and the Ugarit. They are teaching narratives not science or history. Aesop's Fables were written around the same time.

The 1st eleven chapters is the history all nations share.

 

[surada]

The 1st eleven chapters is the history all nations share.

Have you read all the creation stories from around the world?

 

[ding]

Have you read all the creation stories from around the world?

It's not meant to represent the creation accounts of the entire world. Just the region they shared a common heritage.

 

[surada]

It's not meant to represent the creation accounts of the entire world. Just the region they shared a common heritage.

The first Eden was a garden for the gods and people did the work... When they became too numerous and too noisy God drowned them in the flood.

 

[surada]

could be …

I think Eden was referring to Dilmun. .. Bahrain.

Check out the Babylonian Genesis.

Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text

The Enuma Elish (also known as The Seven Tablets of Creation) is the Babylonian creation myth whose title is derived from the opening lines of the piece,

www.worldhistory.org

 

[ding]

The first Eden was a garden for the gods and people did the work... When they became too numerous and too noisy God drowned them in the flood.

That's an odd interpretation of Genesis.

 

[surada]

That's an odd interpretation of Genesis.

It a much earlier story from Babylon.. see Babylonian Genesis.

The Jews borrowed from the older cultures around them. These stories are fiction... They have truth just like Aesop's Fables but they are fiction.

 

[irosie91]

I think Eden was referring to Dilmun. .. Bahrain.

Check out the Babylonian Genesis.

Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text

The Enuma Elish (also known as The Seven Tablets of Creation) is the Babylonian creation myth whose title is derived from the opening lines of the piece,

www.worldhistory.org

check out "ON DREAMS" by Freud. ---myths reveal UNIVERSAL SYMBOLIC THINKING ----just as do dreams. The assumption that commonalities in myths "prove" that they were "copied" is a conclusion of the very simple, uneducated mind

 

[irosie91]

That's an odd interpretation of Genesis.

AW dingbat----I kinda like it---noisy tenants are the worst