Was Bernie always over-rated?

[Hutch Starskey]

The biggest problem the Democrats have had was their morbid fear of the Bernie Bros and not offending them, lest you get a bunch of snake emojis in your Twitter feed.

But the reality is, Bernie was never that popular on his own. In 2016, he was the alternative to Hillary, a person who a lot of Democrats would have liked to have seen any alternative to.

This year, Bernie's performance has failed to match is 2016 performance, even in states he "Won".

Iowa He got 49% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 26%
New Hampshire He got 60% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 25%
Nevada He got 47% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 40%
Colorado He got 59% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 36%
California He got 46% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 33%

Even Vermont, his HOME STATE, he got 50% of the vote, compared to the 86% he got in 2016.

Was Bernie always over-rated?
Of course. He has never had the coalition necessary to win the dem primary.

 

[JLW]

Biden will crush Trump in November. Trump knows this as well as his supporters. You know this because of all the lies told about Biden and the whole Ukraine fiasco.

The electorate will not forget Trump’s incompetence and ineptitude in handling this coronavirus crisis. Now Trump’s mental illness is on full display in his bizarre tweets.

Dementia patients don’t win anything. Just listen to the man talk. He’s not all there.

And Trump is? Trump’s tweets often make no sense. Trump is incoherent many times. Trump slurs his words. Not to mention, Trump evidences that he has a severe mental illness. He sees conspiracies everywhere,

And there are people who think Biden is nuts???? Biden has nothing on the insanity that Trump exhibits on nearly a daily basis.

So, you want to exchange one nut for another nut. LOL.

Bernie beats Crazy Don. The dementia boy Biden has no chance.

Not a chance. You have it backwards. Bernie loses to Trump. Biden wins against Trump. Go with the winner and stop bitching. The worst thing for this country is four more years of the mentally ill Trump.

 

[gipper]

Biden will crush Trump in November. Trump knows this as well as his supporters. You know this because of all the lies told about Biden and the whole Ukraine fiasco.

The electorate will not forget Trump’s incompetence and ineptitude in handling this coronavirus crisis. Now Trump’s mental illness is on full display in his bizarre tweets.

Dementia patients don’t win anything. Just listen to the man talk. He’s not all there.

And Trump is? Trump’s tweets often make no sense. Trump is incoherent many times. Trump slurs his words. Not to mention, Trump evidences that he has a severe mental illness. He sees conspiracies everywhere,

And there are people who think Biden is nuts???? Biden has nothing on the insanity that Trump exhibits on nearly a daily basis.

So, you want to exchange one nut for another nut. LOL.

Bernie beats Crazy Don. The dementia boy Biden has no chance.

Not a chance. You have it backwards. Bernie loses to Trump. Biden wins against Trump. Go with the winner and stop bitching. The worst thing for this country is four more years of the mentally ill Trump.

That’s the establishment’s belief and they have a very poor track record.

Liberals have been told Dumb Don is the worst EVER, by their establishment media sources. They fully believe four more years of him will destroy the nation, just as cons thought if Ears got four more years. Romney while a major asshole but mentally capable unlike sniffy Joe, got his ass beat in 2012. Biden will too.

 

[mudwhistle]

No, but your beloved Hillary is.

Bernie hasn't done anything.
All he's done is enrich himself at our expense.

 

[JLW]

Biden will crush Trump in November. Trump knows this as well as his supporters. You know this because of all the lies told about Biden and the whole Ukraine fiasco.

The electorate will not forget Trump’s incompetence and ineptitude in handling this coronavirus crisis. Now Trump’s mental illness is on full display in his bizarre tweets.

Dementia patients don’t win anything. Just listen to the man talk. He’s not all there.

And Trump is? Trump’s tweets often make no sense. Trump is incoherent many times. Trump slurs his words. Not to mention, Trump evidences that he has a severe mental illness. He sees conspiracies everywhere,

And there are people who think Biden is nuts???? Biden has nothing on the insanity that Trump exhibits on nearly a daily basis.

So, you want to exchange one nut for another nut. LOL.

Bernie beats Crazy Don. The dementia boy Biden has no chance.

Not a chance. You have it backwards. Bernie loses to Trump. Biden wins against Trump. Go with the winner and stop bitching. The worst thing for this country is four more years of the mentally ill Trump.

That’s the establishment’s belief and they have a very poor track record.

Liberals have been told Dumb Don is the worst EVER, by their establishment media sources. They fully believe four more years of him will destroy the nation, just as cons thought if Ears got four more years. Romney while a major asshole but mentally capable unlike sniffy Joe, got his ass beat in 2012. Biden will too.

I hope you are wrong. Other than fanatical Trumpists who worship Trump, the majority do not like Trump. Trump will never win the popular vote. Biden can beat Trump where it counts: Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida. Those states will be close, but that is where the election will be decided. Bernie would have no chance in those states.

 

[rightwinger]

Bernie is still Bernie

He has been playing this act for decades. Mostly, he has been a voice of dissent in the Senate, a Muckraker, someone who gave a speech and was then ignored.

In 2016, a group of followers started taking him seriously. He is still Bernie.

 

[toobfreak]

Was Bernie always over-rated?

The greater question is: WHO CARES?

Apparently the only people who take him seriously are the DNC in fear that he could become their nominee.

 

[imawhosure]

Dementia patients don’t win anything. Just listen to the man talk. He’s not all there.

And Trump is? Trump’s tweets often make no sense. Trump is incoherent many times. Trump slurs his words. Not to mention, Trump evidences that he has a severe mental illness. He sees conspiracies everywhere,

And there are people who think Biden is nuts???? Biden has nothing on the insanity that Trump exhibits on nearly a daily basis.

So, you want to exchange one nut for another nut. LOL.

Bernie beats Crazy Don. The dementia boy Biden has no chance.

Not a chance. You have it backwards. Bernie loses to Trump. Biden wins against Trump. Go with the winner and stop bitching. The worst thing for this country is four more years of the mentally ill Trump.

That’s the establishment’s belief and they have a very poor track record.

Liberals have been told Dumb Don is the worst EVER, by their establishment media sources. They fully believe four more years of him will destroy the nation, just as cons thought if Ears got four more years. Romney while a major asshole but mentally capable unlike sniffy Joe, got his ass beat in 2012. Biden will too.

I hope you are wrong. Other than fanatical Trumpists who worship Trump, the majority do not like Trump. Trump will never win the popular vote. Biden can beat Trump where it counts: Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida. Those states will be close, but that is where the election will be decided. Bernie would have no chance in those states.

One thing you have 100% correct is--------->Bernie can not win Florida! Biden is going to beat him like a dead horse down here, where I am at the moment.

Politicians lie. They lie more than they tell the truth sometimes I think. Why Bernie ever said what he said about Cuba is beyond me, but he has the Cuban people down here chomping at the bit to vote against him ASAP.

Maybe, at the time; Bernie thought he didn't need Florida. All he had to do is avoid whatever question got him started on his rant. We will probably never know. But Bernie shot HIMSELF in the foot with it, and cost himself a real shot at the DNC nomination.

It is not over, but there is no way he carries Florida, Ohio, or Penn in the primaries; and you can throw New York on that pile too!

Is there a path to victory without those states in the primaries? I dunno, haven't counted it up, but I seriously doubt it.

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[22lcidw]

Bernie is still Bernie

He has been playing this act for decades. Mostly, he has been a voice of dissent in the Senate, a Muckraker, someone who gave a speech and was then ignored.

In 2016, a group of followers started taking him seriously. He is still Bernie.

I do not care for Bernie. I see the Prog establishment and it must be run through the mud as Repubs are. Bernie was the 2016 Prog candidate winner. No matter what you spout and what we were forced or told. Repub voters who did not believe before 2008, found that out with McCain as the candidate.

 

[CowboyTed]

No, but your beloved Hillary is.

I never liked her as a candidate. Didn't vote for her in the primary and only voted for her in the general, because Trump was so unacceptable.

(I voted for Kasich in the primary because I thought there was still hope for the GOP).

What is becoming clear is the more people get to know Commie Bernie, the less they like him. Hopefully, he'll fold his tent after being thrubbed in IL and FL next week.

LIAR. You said before, that you converted to being a stupid liberal a long time ago. Stop being such a dishonest prick.

How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job

#4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.

Great to see you are such a distinguished debater...

There is plenty of people who are Real Conservatives who don't like a president who is not a fiscal conservative and who never accepts any blame (which makes him no scoial conservative)....

The only thing he managed to convince people if Liberals are loosing Conservatives must be winning. These people think this is a zero sum game. All Americans loose when you screw up the Coronavirus response,...

 

[blastoff]

The biggest problem the Democrats have had was their morbid fear of the Bernie Bros and not offending them, lest you get a bunch of snake emojis in your Twitter feed.

But the reality is, Bernie was never that popular on his own. In 2016, he was the alternative to Hillary, a person who a lot of Democrats would have liked to have seen any alternative to.

This year, Bernie's performance has failed to match is 2016 performance, even in states he "Won".

Iowa He got 49% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 26%
New Hampshire He got 60% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 25%
Nevada He got 47% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 40%
Colorado He got 59% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 36%
California He got 46% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 33%

Even Vermont, his HOME STATE, he got 50% of the vote, compared to the 86% he got in 2016.

In Iowa in 2016 he and the sick bitch were the only candidates, this year there were more stupid fucking liberals running. Without them, Bernie the Commie would of Beaten "Sleepy, the groper" Joe Biden hands down. Why are you such a dishonest prick all the time? Do you know what honor is?

Honor? For a serial liar like JoeyB Dolezal? You gotta be kidding.

 

[mudwhistle]

Bernie is still Bernie

He has been playing this act for decades. Mostly, he has been a voice of dissent in the Senate, a Muckraker, someone who gave a speech and was then ignored.

In 2016, a group of followers started taking him seriously. He is still Bernie.

He's still worthless.

Which is why he's running as a Democrat.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

The biggest problem the Democrats have had was their morbid fear of the Bernie Bros and not offending them, lest you get a bunch of snake emojis in your Twitter feed.

But the reality is, Bernie was never that popular on his own. In 2016, he was the alternative to Hillary, a person who a lot of Democrats would have liked to have seen any alternative to.

This year, Bernie's performance has failed to match is 2016 performance, even in states he "Won".

Iowa He got 49% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 26%
New Hampshire He got 60% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 25%
Nevada He got 47% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 40%
Colorado He got 59% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 36%
California He got 46% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 33%

Even Vermont, his HOME STATE, he got 50% of the vote, compared to the 86% he got in 2016.

Bernie has a core base (the fringe communist of the Dem party) and he has never ever been able to expand beyond that. The DNC could have run a worn out political whore against him to keep him from getting the nomination. Proof of that is Hellary and now creepy Joe.

 

[gipper]

Dementia patients don’t win anything. Just listen to the man talk. He’s not all there.

And Trump is? Trump’s tweets often make no sense. Trump is incoherent many times. Trump slurs his words. Not to mention, Trump evidences that he has a severe mental illness. He sees conspiracies everywhere,

And there are people who think Biden is nuts???? Biden has nothing on the insanity that Trump exhibits on nearly a daily basis.

So, you want to exchange one nut for another nut. LOL.

Bernie beats Crazy Don. The dementia boy Biden has no chance.

Not a chance. You have it backwards. Bernie loses to Trump. Biden wins against Trump. Go with the winner and stop bitching. The worst thing for this country is four more years of the mentally ill Trump.

That’s the establishment’s belief and they have a very poor track record.

Liberals have been told Dumb Don is the worst EVER, by their establishment media sources. They fully believe four more years of him will destroy the nation, just as cons thought if Ears got four more years. Romney while a major asshole but mentally capable unlike sniffy Joe, got his ass beat in 2012. Biden will too.

I hope you are wrong. Other than fanatical Trumpists who worship Trump, the majority do not like Trump. Trump will never win the popular vote. Biden can beat Trump where it counts: Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida. Those states will be close, but that is where the election will be decided. Bernie would have no chance in those states.

The problem is Trump is a very good campaigner and quick witted. All things Biden isn’t. In debates Biden will look feeble, just as he did in the D debates. Only Trump is ruthless and will have Sniffy Joe mumbling incoherently. Exposing his mental issues.

 

[gipper]

Bernie is still Bernie

He has been playing this act for decades. Mostly, he has been a voice of dissent in the Senate, a Muckraker, someone who gave a speech and was then ignored.

In 2016, a group of followers started taking him seriously. He is still Bernie.

And Biden has lied and lied and lied. But you like lies.

 

[HappyJoy]

According to Susan Sarandon circa 2016 Trump was going to bring about a Sanders revolution and that was her excuse for not voting for Clinton. She thought the electorate would be super-super doubly ready for Sanders in 2020.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/politics/susan-sarandon-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/index.

"Some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately, if he gets in. Then things will really, you know, explode," Sarandon said, referring to the political "revolution" Sanders preaches about on the trail.

Hindsight is 20/20 but what a stupid asshole. I wonder if she'll say the same thing now, probably. I'm hoping the rest of the Democrats learned their lesson and considering the diminished Sanders return this time around that very well may be true. I'd rather hold together the Obama coalition and add to it such as the gains Democrats made in 2018 with moderate voters rather than pretend there is this great youth vote Sanders keeps talking about but isn't showing up for him in anywhere near the numbers he needs.

It's now predicted (and this of course can change anytime) that Biden will win enough delegates to avoid a brokered convention that Sanders will use to further destroy the Democratic Party in favor of an uncompromising shit show we see in the GOP.

I'm not a huge Biden fan, and my only motivation right now is to just get off the damn ride.

 

[rightwinger]

And Trump is? Trump’s tweets often make no sense. Trump is incoherent many times. Trump slurs his words. Not to mention, Trump evidences that he has a severe mental illness. He sees conspiracies everywhere,

And there are people who think Biden is nuts???? Biden has nothing on the insanity that Trump exhibits on nearly a daily basis.

So, you want to exchange one nut for another nut. LOL.

Bernie beats Crazy Don. The dementia boy Biden has no chance.

Not a chance. You have it backwards. Bernie loses to Trump. Biden wins against Trump. Go with the winner and stop bitching. The worst thing for this country is four more years of the mentally ill Trump.

That’s the establishment’s belief and they have a very poor track record.

Liberals have been told Dumb Don is the worst EVER, by their establishment media sources. They fully believe four more years of him will destroy the nation, just as cons thought if Ears got four more years. Romney while a major asshole but mentally capable unlike sniffy Joe, got his ass beat in 2012. Biden will too.

I hope you are wrong. Other than fanatical Trumpists who worship Trump, the majority do not like Trump. Trump will never win the popular vote. Biden can beat Trump where it counts: Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida. Those states will be close, but that is where the election will be decided. Bernie would have no chance in those states.

The problem is Trump is a very good campaigner and quick witted. All things Biden isn’t. In debates Biden will look feeble, just as he did in the D debates. Only Trump is ruthless and will have Sniffy Joe mumbling incoherently. Exposing his mental issues.

Trump had no record the last time he ran

This time he is open for attack including trying to take away peoples healthcare, separating families at the border, starting an unnecessary trade war, destroying our reputation and alliances around the world, his denial of global warming, inadequate response and denial of a corona virus threat.....

 

[rightwinger]

Bernie is still Bernie

He has been playing this act for decades. Mostly, he has been a voice of dissent in the Senate, a Muckraker, someone who gave a speech and was then ignored.

In 2016, a group of followers started taking him seriously. He is still Bernie.

And Biden has lied and lied and lied. But you like lies.

OK
You list Biden’s lies and I will list Trump lies

GO!

 

[jillian]

The biggest problem the Democrats have had was their morbid fear of the Bernie Bros and not offending them, lest you get a bunch of snake emojis in your Twitter feed.

But the reality is, Bernie was never that popular on his own. In 2016, he was the alternative to Hillary, a person who a lot of Democrats would have liked to have seen any alternative to.

This year, Bernie's performance has failed to match is 2016 performance, even in states he "Won".

Iowa He got 49% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 26%
New Hampshire He got 60% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 25%
Nevada He got 47% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 40%
Colorado He got 59% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 36%
California He got 46% of the vote in 2016. In 2020 he got 33%

Even Vermont, his HOME STATE, he got 50% of the vote, compared to the 86% he got in 2016.

In Iowa in 2016 he and the sick bitch were the only candidates, this year there were more stupid fucking liberals running. Without them, Bernie the Commie would of Beaten "Sleepy, the groper" Joe Biden hands down. Why are you such a dishonest prick all the time? Do you know what honor is?

Says the sicko