Was American isolationism taken as a sign of cowardice?

[Otis Mayfield]

The Japanese knew in the early 1940s that there was no way Japan could win a protracted war with America. America supplied 80% of Japan's oil, 80% of Japan's iron, and 80% of Japan's copper for example.

So Japan had to give America a decisive strike that would make America immediately sue for peace. So Japan launched the successful surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.

But instead of forcing America to immediately sue for peace, America became enraged.

We didn't understand Japan very well and Japan certainly didn't understand America very well and that lead to mistakes.

What made Japan think America would immediately sue for peace after the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor?

It was America's isolationist stance. America wouldn't join others in wars or intervene in foreign affairs.

And Japan mistook this isolationism as a sign of cowardice.

What do you think? True?

 

[Donald H]

The Japanese knew in the early 1940s that there was no way Japan could win a protracted war with America. America supplied 80% of Japan's oil, 80% of Japan's iron, and 80% of Japan's copper for example.

So Japan had to give America a decisive strike that would make America immediately sue for peace. So Japan launched the successful surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.

But instead of forcing America to immediately sue for peace, America became enraged.

We didn't understand Japan very well and Japan certainly didn't understand America very well and that lead to mistakes.

What made Japan think America would immediately sue for peace after the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor?

It was America's isolationist stance. America wouldn't join others in wars or intervene in foreign affairs.

And Japan mistook this isolationism as a sign of cowardice.

What do you think? True?

Is that out of your own head or is there popular opinion of some to support it?
Not that I'm mocking it but instead I'm genuinely interested.

One of the riddles that remain over the Pearl Harbour attack was the bad timing (or whatever the cause?) of the aircraft carriers being away at sea. Japan obviously was aware of that but were they aware of the importance of the carriers as opposed to a couple of battle ships being put out of commission?
And really, it was only a couple of them.

 

[Muhammed]

The Japanese knew in the early 1940s that there was no way Japan could win a protracted war with America. America supplied 80% of Japan's oil, 80% of Japan's iron, and 80% of Japan's copper for example.

So Japan had to give America a decisive strike that would make America immediately sue for peace. So Japan launched the successful surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.

But instead of forcing America to immediately sue for peace, America became enraged.

We didn't understand Japan very well and Japan certainly didn't understand America very well and that lead to mistakes.

What made Japan think America would immediately sue for peace after the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor?

It was America's isolationist stance. America wouldn't join others in wars or intervene in foreign affairs.

And Japan mistook this isolationism as a sign of cowardice.

What do you think? True?

I think you are confused because the premise of your OP is so ridiculous. Apparently you bought the false narrative that the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "surprise attack".

It was no surprise.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

We were non-interventionalist...not isolationist,

A very distinct difference.

The Japanese were isolationist during the Edo period, the Thai...and the Bhutanese for a while.

We have never been.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

I think you are confused because the premise of your OP is so ridiculous. Apparently you bought the false narrative that the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "surprise attack".

It was no surprise.

Do you buy into conspiracy theories?

I'm disappointed.

 

[francoHFW]

The Japanese knew in the early 1940s that there was no way Japan could win a protracted war with America. America supplied 80% of Japan's oil, 80% of Japan's iron, and 80% of Japan's copper for example.

So Japan had to give America a decisive strike that would make America immediately sue for peace. So Japan launched the successful surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.

But instead of forcing America to immediately sue for peace, America became enraged.

We didn't understand Japan very well and Japan certainly didn't understand America very well and that lead to mistakes.

What made Japan think America would immediately sue for peace after the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor?

It was America's isolationist stance. America wouldn't join others in wars or intervene in foreign affairs.

And Japan mistook this isolationism as a sign of cowardice.

What do you think? True?

It was a sign of stupidity greed and missinformation from the GOP as always. The GOP also caused the world depression that led to chaos and military in Germany and Japan. Great job! As always...

 

[eagle1462010]

We cut off their supplies and they felt dishonored by us.

 

[francoHFW]

I think you are confused because the premise of your OP is so ridiculous. Apparently you bought the false narrative that the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "surprise attack".

It was no surprise.

Another Democratic conspiracy no doubt lol.

 

[Muhammed]

Another Democratic conspiracy no doubt lol.

FDR reinstituted slavery in the USA in 1940. The 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor was not a surprise.

Military conscription is a particularly abhorrent and sadistic form of slavery and Franklin Roosevelt (D) enslaved millions of American citizens.

It's not known as the Democratic party of slavery for nothing.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

FDR reinstituted slavery in the USA in 1940. The 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor was not a surprise.

Military conscription is a particularly abhorrent and sadistic form of slavery and Franklin Roosevelt (D) enslaved millions of American citizens.

It's not known as the Democratic party of slavery for nothing.

Your post has nothing to do with American isolationism or the Japanese decision to launch a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Military conscription is a particularly abhorrent and sadistic form of slavery and Franklin Roosevelt (D) enslaved millions of American citizens.

Fascinating theory. My dad, being a conscientious objector, served in the Forest Service and loved every minute of it.

 

[Muhammed]

Your post has nothing to do with American isolationism or the Japanese decision to launch a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.

Sure it does. I'm challenging your contention that it was a surprise attack in the first place.

And I'm also pointing out the unreasonableness of anyone who refers to the Franklin Roosevelt administration as isolationist. He enslaved millions of Americans and used them as fucking cannon fodder. Hundreds of thousands of young Americans unnecessarily died overseas.

 

[braalian]

The Monroe Doctrine took a lot of guts. We basically told Britain and France (at the time both far larger and more populated worldwide empires) to stay the hell out of the Western Hemisphere. That it’s *our* turf.

 

[francoHFW]

FDR reinstituted slavery in the USA in 1940. The 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor was not a surprise.

Military conscription is a particularly abhorrent and sadistic form of slavery and Franklin Roosevelt (D) enslaved millions of American citizens.

It's not known as the Democratic party of slavery for nothing.

You are probably a Nazi anyway lol. There was a war on lol young fellow

 

[francoHFW]

Sure it does. I'm challenging your contention that it was a surprise attack in the first place.

And I'm also pointing out the unreasonableness of anyone who refers to the Franklin Roosevelt administration as isolationist. He enslaved millions of Americans and used them as fucking cannon fodder. Hundreds of thousands of young Americans unnecessarily died overseas.

Republicans were the isolationists and a disaster as always... They also ruined the treaty of Versailles and the League of Nations for political power. Then started the great depression omg that gave rise to Nazis and militarists in Japan. Great job! After world war II they saw the money in the defense industry...

 

[francoHFW]

The Monroe Doctrine took a lot of guts. We basically told Britain and France (at the time both far larger and more populated worldwide empires) to stay the hell out of the Western Hemisphere. That it’s *our* turf.

The Spanish had already mucked up and plundered South America anyway. The natives and colonists had basically told Europe to stay out or were in the process of doing so.

 

[DudleySmith]

The Monroe Doctrine took a lot of guts. We basically told Britain and France (at the time both far larger and more populated worldwide empires) to stay the hell out of the Western Hemisphere. That it’s *our* turf.

Actually it was Britain who was the main enforcer of the Monroe Doctrine; it was a great benefit to them, and the U.S. didn't have the naval strength to enforce it for many years.

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However, the American navy of 1823 was far too small to enforce the doctrine unilaterally, and this is where British support became essential to its success during the nineteenth century. The Monroe Doctrine could not have held water during the 1800s if not for British support, with American inability to enforce the doctrine during the Civil War as prime evidence of this fact.

It was also the British Navy who did the most to enforce the American ban on importing slaves when that as outlawed in 1803 or 1810 or so, don't remember the exact year.

 

[DudleySmith]

Most such powers taken over by thugs and gangsters see 'neutrality' as weakness and consider it a green light to plunder and loot and murder; been that way all throughout history. It is the same with Putin, Xi, and every Muslim thug today as well, which is why hippies and 'libertarians' will only get many millions more killed with their stupid dope addled 'Diversity and Understanding' nonsense.

 

[Muhammed]

You are probably a Nazi anyway lol. There was a war on lol young fellow

Silly fool.

In other words, you have no logical argument, so you ignorantly and stupidly launch an ad hominem attack by calling me a Nazi.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Silly fool.

In other words, you have no logical argument, so you ignorantly and stupidly launch an ad hominem attack by calling me a Nazi.

kook would be more accurate.

The draft was widely supported by the public.