Warren Blasts Elon Musk’s Government Power Grab

[jc456]

If your beloved billionaire oligarchs are auditing everyone, they should be audited at all levels too. Your lord is now trying to fire FBI agents because they participated in an investigation that he considers unethical and doesn't serve his agenda. He's doing what you're criticizing now, going after those he considers his political opponents. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

wait until they audit the IRS. I've got my popcorn for that one too. It seems you are upset that someone actually audits those who use our tax money. Why is that?

BTW, are suggesting that Trump and Musk receive tax money? If so, then yeah! But you, no, no, no, stay away from the demofk oligarchs. these are not the drones you're looking for. Yeah! you seem very compromised from normal citizens.

 

[The Duke]

More evidence that Trump did yet another thing right.

With that level of howling, it was exactly the right thing to do!

 

[The Duke]

wait until they audit the IRS. I've got my popcorn for that one too. It seems you are upset that someone actually audits those who use our tax money. Why is that?

That tard's just babbling for a character count.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Todd, you’re throwing around phrases like “useless jobs” and “output-destroying government work” as if government service has zero value.

It's true, many government jobs are even worse, they destroy value.

You act as if cutting government programs only affects a small group of “unproductive” people. In reality, those “unproductive” government workers spend their wages in the local economy, supporting grocery stores, restaurants, home repairs, and so on. When you slash their jobs, you drain purchasing power, harming private businesses and the surrounding communities.

If your community or business depends on government wages (cough-NoVA-cough) you may have to tighten your belt for the next few years.

That’s why austerity is literally taking dollars out of the economy.

Reducing government borrowing isn't taking dollars out of the economy.

It’s not about these so-called “lazy” public employees; it’s about the ripple effect on the entire economy when you fire them.

Imagine the economic boom when these workers get real jobs. It will be glorious!

No, Todd, we’re not going to run out of money, and we don’t need to kill off every government job to stay afloat.

Every government job? Drama queen much?

The real question is whether we’re making productive use of our resources: people, materials, technology,

With all the useless paper pushing, I'd say no, we are not making productive use.

You keep throwing around terms like “useless paper pushing” without providing a single tangible example or explaining which roles are supposedly worthless. You say these jobs “destroy value,” yet you give no evidence. At least own up to the fact that you have nothing but a vague guess based on your personal distaste for the public sector.

You act like it’s somehow self-evident that every government job can be eliminated and magically replaced by “real jobs” in the private sector. It’s not. People in these roles, from administrative clerks to safety inspectors to transportation planners, facilitate everything from small business loans to infrastructure maintenance. That’s not “output destroying.”

You keep downplaying the ripple effect of firing government employees, telling them to “tighten their belts.” Well, guess what happens when their paychecks stop? They quit buying from local stores, going to restaurants, or paying for home improvements. That economic activity vanishes, and private businesses get hurt. Fewer customers, less revenue, and eventually cutbacks or closures. It’s not rocket science: removing salaries from entire groups of workers drags down the surrounding economy.

Then you say “reducing government borrowing isn’t taking dollars out of the economy.” Actually, when the government spends less, the private sector gets fewer dollars overall. This isn’t about moral judgments on “borrowing”; it’s about basic arithmetic. When public employees lose jobs, the flow of money they once spent in your beloved private sector stops. That is literally money exiting the economy, to the detriment of local businesses.

Government employment, when done sensibly, provides services the private sector either can’t or won’t deliver without massive costs passed on to everyone else. And if you really want to see “output,” take a good, hard look at the countless ways government workers keep the broader economy functional every single day. Without the infrastructure these government workers are building and maintaining, there would be no modern market or capitalism.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If your beloved billionaire oligarchs are auditing everyone, they should be audited at all levels too. Your lord is now trying to fire FBI agents because they participated in an investigation that he considers unethical and doesn't serve his agenda. He's doing what you're criticizing now, going after those he considers his political opponents. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Exactly!
We can't allow any thoughtcrime.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You keep throwing around terms like “useless paper pushing” without providing a single tangible example or explaining which roles are supposedly worthless. You say these jobs “destroy value,” yet you give no evidence.

Yes, too much bureaucracy will destroy value.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Government employment, when done sensibly,

Let me know when we get within a light year of "done sensibly".
We've probably got a few trillion dollars of cutting before we get close.

 

[jc456]

You keep throwing around terms like “useless paper pushing” without providing a single tangible example or explaining which roles are supposedly worthless. You say these jobs “destroy value,” yet you give no evidence. At least own up to the fact that you have nothing but a vague guess based on your personal distaste for the public sector.

You act like it’s somehow self-evident that every government job can be eliminated and magically replaced by “real jobs” in the private sector. It’s not. People in these roles, from administrative clerks to safety inspectors to transportation planners, facilitate everything from small business loans to infrastructure maintenance. That’s not “output destroying.”

You keep downplaying the ripple effect of firing government employees, telling them to “tighten their belts.” Well, guess what happens when their paychecks stop? They quit buying from local stores, going to restaurants, or paying for home improvements. That economic activity vanishes, and private businesses get hurt. Fewer customers, less revenue, and eventually cutbacks or closures. It’s not rocket science: removing salaries from entire groups of workers drags down the surrounding economy.

Then you say “reducing government borrowing isn’t taking dollars out of the economy.” Actually, when the government spends less, the private sector gets fewer dollars overall. This isn’t about moral judgments on “borrowing”; it’s about basic arithmetic. When public employees lose jobs, the flow of money they once spent in your beloved private sector stops. That is literally money exiting the economy, to the detriment of local businesses.

Government employment, when done sensibly, provides services the private sector either can’t or won’t deliver without massive costs passed on to everyone else. And if you really want to see “output,” take a good, hard look at the countless ways government workers keep the broader economy functional every single day. Without the infrastructure these government workers are building and maintaining, there would be no modern market or capitalism.

it's all right here. Maybe shut the fk up for a moment and remove your lips from someone's privates and listen to the corruption that was just uncovered. If you are against this effort, I can't trust you!

 

[TruthNotBS]

Exactly!
We can't allow any thoughtcrime.

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. You right-wingers want to dictate your values and world view, and we also want to do the same, the only difference is that we're for the working class controlling everything and you're for a small group of billionaires being "the bosses". I'm for common ownership of the means of production, you're for handing those resources to a few rich people, who lord themselves over everyone else with their money and power.

 

[jc456]

Yes, too much bureaucracy will destroy value.

that dude's skating in such a tight circle, the ice is about to break. No one can make up that much stupid.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Yes, too much bureaucracy will destroy value.

Just as much of that in the private sector if not more.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No, it's not. These great men are trying to clean up the system of waste and abuse. I hope they outright disband worthless wasteful leftwing departments like Education.

Democrats remind of the severely abused wife supporting and championing her abuser. She will get up off the ground to attack the cop arresting the man who put her down.

 

[jc456]

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. You right-wingers want to dictate your values and world view, and we also want to do the same, the only difference is that we're for the working class controlling everything and you're for a small group of billionaires being "the bosses". I'm for common ownership of the means of production, you're for handing those resources to a few rich people, who lord themselves over everyone else with their money and power.

who elected those resources? I know no one did. So what is your point? What makes them different than Musk and Trump who was elected, and as the Executor. The guy responsible for their traitorous asses.

 

[jc456]

Just as much of that in the private sector if not more.

dude, you are so lost. no one can help you!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. You right-wingers want to dictate your values and world view, and we also want to do the same, the only difference is that we're for the working class controlling everything and you're for a small group of billionaires being "the bosses". I'm for common ownership of the means of production, you're for handing those resources to a few rich people, who lord themselves over everyone else with their money and power.

Musk and Trump are auditing your thoughts?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Let me know when we get within a light year of "done sensibly".
We've probably got a few trillion dollars of cutting before we get close.

Sensible isn't cutting trillions from our budget if it hurts working-class people.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Just as much of that in the private sector if not more.

If you want to waste money on bureaucracy in your own company, I can't stop you.

 

[jc456]

Democrats remind of the severely abused wife supporting and championing her abuser. She will get up off the ground to attack the cop arresting the man who put her down.

^^^^^^^^^^^holy fk this is so fking spot on!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[TruthNotBS]

Musk and Trump are auditing your thoughts?

They're "auditing" the discourse, and one's political stance on the issues. They want control of the government, but they're not going to get it, when it's illegal or unconstitutional. They're now experiencing a strong resistance and that's good. They're not going to get their way.

 

[TruthNotBS]

If you want to waste money on bureaucracy in your own company, I can't stop you.

Too many of you big money capitalists run bureaucratic hells. Your companies are even worse than the government when it comes to bureaucracy.