Warren Blasts Elon Musk’s Government Power Grab

[TruthNotBS]

They identified several examples. Plays in Ireland, transgender comic books in Peru, etc. In what world is that not waste?

Furthermore, why in the holy **** would you expect our side to be ok with USAID funneling millions of dollars into leftwing groups every god damn year? THATS why your politicians are mad. They want to keep their decades old gravy train, but we wont allow it, so they spew a bunch of dishonest horseshit to obfuscate their real motivation for being against it, but its not going to work.

I agree, that's waste, but these billionaire oligarchs are going to cut a lot more than that. I'm not pro-"woke" myself, and I consider doing all of this shit repulsive and deplorable:

I sympathize with social conservative Republicans on these issues, but the problem is that Trump and Elon, are also going after American workers, stripping them of their right to unionize and other rights. They will cut funding for Medicaid, food stamps, and daycare for poor single moms who were ethical enough not to get an abortion and have the baby, and then what? You cut them from the assistance that they need to properly raise their kid? How is that pro-life?

She needs assistance, such as food stamps, Medicaid, daycare for her child, while she's at work, and school lunch programs that cover the cost..etc. She needs a Pell Grant to go to a technical school, to get some job training, acquiring a marketable skill that will increase her pay and hopefully, get her off of public assistance. That's not a waste of money, that's an investment, that benefits all Americans. Investing in people is not a waste, it makes them more productive. But it has to be done correctly, and if there's a problem in the way a program is being managed and administered, then there can be reform, but don't cut that service.

Defunding the program that isn't run perfectly or has its problems, isn't the solution. If you do that, you create more problems and expenses for everyone. Don't you realize that? If you cut a program, that is housing homeless people and you kick out all of the homeless from their present housing, that just creates more expenses for the American public, in terms of money, crime, drugs..etc. You're not improving the situation.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I suggested none of those things . Your brainwashed preconfigured mind invented them.

You need to stop kissing billionaire boots and realize that you're a working-class person, and our interests are not the same as those of the billionaire oligarchs.

 

[jc456]

Elon Musk is an assistant to President Trump who is serving his country at his President's pleasure. All Presidents have underlings, Trump is just one individual so he's delegated the job of regaining government efficiency and eliminating waste to the smartest guy in the country.

Looking at the people Sleepy Joe appointed, like Rachel Levine, is a stark contrast to Trump's policy of working with quality people, and even quality liberals like RFK and Tulsi Gabbard.

who was elected that works there?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Todd, you’re throwing around phrases like “useless jobs” and “output-destroying government work” as if government service has zero value. That’s ridiculous. The roads you drive on, the teachers who educate children, the researchers who advance medicine, the firefighters who protect your home, the law enforcement who keep your streets safe, are those government jobs, funded by programs that wouldn’t exist if we simply left everything up to the private sector. So let’s not pretend these people are just sitting around doing nothing. They’re delivering essential services that create and maintain the conditions for private businesses and entire communities to thrive.

Beyond that, if government jobs are so worthless, why do billionaires like Elon Musk keep saying we’ll eventually need a universal basic income because automation will put millions out of work? The point is we have a choice: either pay people to do nothing or pay them to do something. Durrrrrrr...

You act as if cutting government programs only affects a small group of “unproductive” people. In reality, those “unproductive” government workers spend their wages in the local economy, supporting grocery stores, restaurants, home repairs, and so on. When you slash their jobs, you drain purchasing power, harming private businesses and the surrounding communities. That’s why austerity is literally taking dollars out of the economy. It’s not about these so-called “lazy” public employees; it’s about the ripple effect on the entire economy when you fire them.

No, Todd, we’re not going to run out of money, and we don’t need to kill off every government job to stay afloat. It’s the government that issues the currency to begin with. The real question is whether we’re making productive use of our resources: people, materials, technology, not just how big the number is in some ledger. Firing everyone in sight without due process and calling it “good for the country” is not just immoral; it’s economically foolish. If we reach the point of widespread automation, we’ll either create government jobs that add real value or pay people not to work. Which option sounds more “productive” to you? I prefer people work than sit on their rear ends and collect a "UBI check".

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Do you prefer "UBI"? I don't.

Todd, you’re throwing around phrases like “useless jobs” and “output-destroying government work” as if government service has zero value.

It's true, many government jobs are even worse, they destroy value.

You act as if cutting government programs only affects a small group of “unproductive” people. In reality, those “unproductive” government workers spend their wages in the local economy, supporting grocery stores, restaurants, home repairs, and so on. When you slash their jobs, you drain purchasing power, harming private businesses and the surrounding communities.

If your community or business depends on government wages (cough-NoVA-cough) you may have to tighten your belt for the next few years.

That’s why austerity is literally taking dollars out of the economy.

Reducing government borrowing isn't taking dollars out of the economy.

It’s not about these so-called “lazy” public employees; it’s about the ripple effect on the entire economy when you fire them.

Imagine the economic boom when these workers get real jobs. It will be glorious!

No, Todd, we’re not going to run out of money, and we don’t need to kill off every government job to stay afloat.

Every government job? Drama queen much?

The real question is whether we’re making productive use of our resources: people, materials, technology,

With all the useless paper pushing, I'd say no, we are not making productive use.

 

[jc456]

I agree, that's waste, but these billionaire oligarchs are going to cut a lot more than that. I'm not pro-"woke" myself, and I consider doing all of this shit repulsive and deplorable:

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I sympathize with social conservative Republicans on these issues, but the problem is that Trump and Elon, are also going after American workers, stripping them of their right to unionize and other rights. They will cut funding for Medicaid, food stamps, and daycare for poor single moms who were ethical enough not to get an abortion and have the baby, and then what? You cut them from the assistance that they need to properly raise their kid? How is that pro-life?

She needs assistance, such as food stamps, Medicaid, daycare for her child, while she's at work, and school lunch programs that cover the cost..etc. She needs a Pell Grant to go to a technical school, to get some job training, acquiring a marketable skill that will increase her pay and hopefully, get her off of public assistance. That's not a waste of money, that's an investment, that benefits all Americans. Investing in people is not a waste, it makes them more productive. But it has to be done correctly, and if there's a problem in the way a program is being managed and administered, then there can be reform, but don't cut that service.

Defunding the program that isn't run perfectly or has its problems, isn't the solution. If you do that, you create more problems and expenses for everyone. Don't you realize that? If you cut a program, that is housing homeless people and you kick out all of the homeless from their present housing, that just creates more expenses for the American public, in terms of money, crime, drugs..etc. You're not improving the situation.

opposed to the billionare's receiving the funds from the US Agency of International Development? those oligarchs? Your funding org! Funny you seem to be someone who receives money from these particular oligarchs.

 

[jc456]

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[TruthNotBS]

Bankrupting our nation in the future is not worth "improving some peoples lives" today. We need to cut a trillion ******* dollars from our budget. There are going to have to be cuts that hurt people. This is the price for having 2 decades of wild spending sprees.

Warren voted for every single absurd spending spree since she was elected. SHE is responsible for this mess.

Our nation can't be bankrupt by social programs and investing in our infrastructure. You've been deceived by your billionaire masters. The US Federal Government will never go insolvent or become "broke", because it's the exclusive issuer of the USD. Your local city government or state government, doesn't have the exclusive right to print dollars, but our federal government does. Our country is highly productive because the American worker is the hardest working (overworked, exploited without much power in the workplace) in the industrialized, modern world. The budgetary constraints of our government are determined by GDP, or in other words, by our nation's production capacity.

As long as our government invests in infrastructural development and programs that serve the American public, improving their lives, such expenses will never create hyperinflation, much less bankrupt us. You'd been hoodwinked by billionaires who want to own and capitalize on everything, including our nation's commonwealth. If they could privatize Social Security and Medicare they would, and they're trying.

They do that with utility companies often, and prices increase, without much of a service improvement, if anything. Often a utility company that has been privatized, suffers in its customer service, becoming worse than before, when it was owned and operated by the local municipality or city government.

 

[Independent thinker]

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Senator Warren’s speech underscores a vital warning about the dangers of allowing one individual, especially one who is not an elected representative, to exert such extensive control over a major component of government operations. She highlights the fact that critical systems, like those responsible for sending Social Security checks, paying Medicare bills, and funding essential services, should remain in the hands of democratically accountable institutions rather than a single person’s private enterprise. Her concerns are particularly urgent because these are the mechanisms that safeguard our most vulnerable populations: seniors, patients, children, and ordinary families who rely on timely disbursement of federal funds.

In defending Senator Warren’s position, it’s clear that she champions the principle of government by the people, for the people. She rallies the public to resist concentrated power and reminds us that these systems were built to serve everyone, not to be subject to the personal decisions of someone who has never faced the voters. By calling attention to the broader implications of one individual’s influence, Senator Warren is advocating for a democratic check on power to ensure that vital services continue to flow responsibly. Her stance sends a powerful message that we should remain vigilant and engaged to protect the foundations of our democracy.

More evidence that Trump did yet another thing right.

 

[jc456]

Our nation can't be bankrupt by social programs and investing in our infrastructure. You've been deceived by your billionaire masters. The US Federal Government will never go insolvent or become "broke", because it's the exclusive issuer of the USD. Your local city government or state government, doesn't have the exclusive right to print dollars, but our federal government does. Our country is highly productive because the American worker is the hardest working (overworked, exploited without much power in the workplace) in the industrialized, modern world. The budgetary constraints of our government are determined by GDP, or in other words, by our nation's production capacity.

As long as our government invests in infrastructural development and programs that serve the American public, improving their lives, such expenses will never create hyperinflation, much less bankrupt us. You'd been hoodwinked by billionaires who want to own and capitalize on everything, including our nation's commonwealth. If they could privatize Social Security and Medicare they would, and they're trying.

They do that with utility companies often, and prices increase, without much of a service improvement, if anything. Often a utility company that has been privatized, suffers in its customer service, becoming worse than before, when it was owned and operated by the local municipality or city government.

who is the supposed coup against? Senators from your side stated it. How does that work if the sitting President is doing his job?

Was that a Freudian slip perhaps, and the demofk senators are the ones who think they run the government with their secret organization that is actually the coup?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, but Elon and company (including Trump his fellow billionaire), want to cut much more than the "Soros USAID", or the "Woke-LGBTQ USAID",

I hope so. Cut baby cut!!!

 

[Godboy]

I agree, that's waste, but these billionaire oligarchs are going to cut a lot more than that. I'm not pro-"woke" myself, and I consider doing all of this shit repulsive and deplorable:

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I sympathize with social conservative Republicans on these issues, but the problem is that Trump and Elon, are also going after American workers, stripping them of their right to unionize and other rights. They will cut funding for Medicaid, food stamps, and daycare for poor single moms who were ethical enough not to get an abortion and have the baby, and then what? You cut them from the assistance that they need to properly raise their kid? How is that pro-life?

She needs assistance, such as food stamps, Medicaid, daycare for her child, while she's at work, and school lunch programs that cover the cost..etc. She needs a Pell Grant to go to a technical school, to get some job training, acquiring a marketable skill that will increase her pay and hopefully, get her off of public assistance. That's not a waste of money, that's an investment, that benefits all Americans. Investing in people is not a waste, it makes them more productive. But it has to be done correctly, and if there's a problem in the way a program is being managed and administered, then there can be reform, but don't cut that service.

Defunding the program that isn't run perfectly or has its problems, isn't the solution. If you do that, you create more problems and expenses for everyone. Don't you realize that? If you cut a program, that is housing homeless people and you kick out all of the homeless from their present housing, that just creates more expenses for the American public, in terms of money, crime, drugs..etc. You're not improving the situation.

We know EXACTLY what hapoens when your pour money into building housing for the homeless. Homelessness EXPLODES when you do that. Just look at California. That shit failed spectacularly.

As for cutting welfare, those people will be much better off by finally getting a job. It sure beats having the US go bankrupt, at which point NO ONE will get a single penny of welfare. Those people who legitimately cant work because of disabilities will be totally fucked when that day comes, and the blame will be solely on the able bodied people who abused the welfare system for their entire lives.

 

[jc456]

Yes, but Elon and company (including Trump his fellow billionaire), want to cut much more than the "Soros USAID", or the "Woke-LGBTQ USAID", they'll cut programs that actually do good, like Medicaid, and FAFSA (Federal Assistance for college students)..etc. They're going to cut cut cut cut...Until they cut something that helps you or someone you care about, we'll then see how enthusiastic you are with all of that cutting.

Elon is also trying to strip American workers of their right to unionize. Elon hates labor unions, that's one of the reasons he loves hiring Indians with H-1B visas:

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He only cares about short-term profits, and to hell with the long-term consequences of not hiring Americans. He also wants to cut the Department of Education, which contributes to the education and training of Americans, to be able to work those high-tech jobs. Elon wants a dumb America, that he can exploit and capitalize on while importing cheap labor from India, which he has full control over. Those Indian employees are under his heel, terrorized by his threats of deportation. Those foreign workers, have to swallow whatever Elon wants, without question, and if they don't, they get deported.

I really just want to know why non elected departments think they shouldn't be audited?

 

[jc456]

We know EXACTLY what hapoens when your pour money into building housing for the homeless. Homelessness EXPLODES when you do that. Just look at California. That shit failed spectacularly.

As for cutting welfare, those people will be much better off by finally getting a job. It sure beats having the US go bankrupt, at which point NO ONE will get a single penny of welfare. Those people who legitimately cant work because of disabilities will be totally fucked when that day comes, and the blame will be solely on those who abused the welfare system for their entire lives.

Well Zelensky already opened the discussion by saying what happened to 100 billion of a 177 billion grant. He only got 75 billion

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Auditing not just their finances but what they're doing now politically. They're now facing the courts, and a strong resistance from other branches of government, so maybe there's hope, that we're not going to become a banana republic after all. A strong opposition is rising up.

Auditing not just their finances but what they're doing now politically.

Of course, we must punish those who disagree with our politics, eh comrade?

 

[Godboy]

Our nation can't be bankrupt by social programs and investing in our infrastructure.

Ok, you made the claim, now prove that spending a trillion dollars on welfare cant bankrupt us?

 

[jc456]

Auditing not just their finances but what they're doing now politically. They're now facing the courts, and a strong resistance from other branches of government, so maybe there's hope, that we're not going to become a banana republic after all. A strong opposition is rising up.

cause finding out that 97% of the money went to demofks is just a coincidence. Yeah Francis.

 

[jc456]

Ok, you made the claim, now prove that spending a trillion dollars on welfare cant bankrupt us?

he still doesn't get the ins and outs of the program. Amazing we give these goofs the time of day.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Auditing not just their finances but what they're doing now politically.

Of course, we must punish those who disagree with our politics, eh comrade?

When it's serving your billionaire masters to the detriment of everyone else, yes.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When it's serving your billionaire masters to the detriment of everyone else, yes.

Audit their thoughts, eh comrade?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Audit their thoughts, eh comrade?

If your beloved billionaire oligarchs are auditing everyone, they should be audited at all levels too. Your lord is now trying to fire FBI agents because they participated in an investigation that he considers unethical and doesn't serve his agenda. He's doing what you're criticizing now, going after those he considers his political opponents. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.