War With Syria: Yea Or Nay?

[flacaltenn]

I said something similar, earlier today...

95 to 96 percent of our board membership who took the survey, all reject the possibility of war...

Votes from the Left, Right and Center, and all damned-near unanimous, for once...

God, I'm proud of this bunch, today...

...

I voted yes.

For a variety of reasons. For one, I think it will show what an imbecile the Stuttering Clusterfukk is. And for another, killing Islamists isn't really a bad thing. They're all crazy murdering douchebags anyway.

And for another, it will make the Stuttering Clusterfukk look like the douche he is. Not to mention make him look like the hypocrite he is. And for another thing, make him look like the limp-wristed *** he is.

And for another, make the whole world laugh at him, even some of his own party (sans the cult-worshippers, of which there are plenty on this Board)

And for another thing...... Oh yeah, it will be interesting to see how the Knee Pad wearing DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM spins this one.....

I think they go with, "Well, Congress wasn't in Session, soooo...."

Or they'll simply ignore it.

I think it's a minor strike. Dead civilians will be paraded around for the Reporters, which the Reporters will dutifully ignore and the american DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM will also ignore.

And the "Congress wasn't in Session" excuse run a few times and then they ignore it until something else comes up and they'll spend all their time and energy on that..... Maybe, Miley Cyrus Twerking or something else that the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM is interested in.

What kind of scumbag votes for a scumbag like hussein obama?

Amazing

I always love a cumbayah moment...but what is proposed is not war...so voting no on war does not mean we should drop a dime on Assad.

".... drop a dime on Assad... "..

I know I'll get blowback on this --- but I see it more as a "drive-by shooting".. With no real outcome to be expected.

In the VERY LEAST --- you'd think our "mental midgets" in charge of Foreign Policy would make some concrete demand. Like ----

By 7:30 hours on Tues -- we want 4 tons of viable Chemical weapon cannisters and specially fitted warhead capsules on the DOCK at this Syrian Port for pick-up by NATO forces.
Failure to comply with this transfer of materials WILL result in strategic reduction of the Syrian capability to wage war by Tues evening.. Thanks for your attention to this matter.

John Frog Kerrey --- US Sec. of State..


Wouldn't ever happen that way --- would it? Our foreign policy CONTINUES to suck and suck badly. For the larger part of my life..

 

[Kondor3]

"...I always love a cumbayah moment...but what is proposed is not war...so voting no on war does not mean we should drop a dime on Assad."

I think it's safe to say that when I saw the "War - Yes or No?" tagline, that I construed that to mean: "No war, nor warlike nor hostile intervention, at this time. Stand down."...

As did, I will wager, most folks around here over the age of 10...

But, just for clarification's sake...

And speaking only for myself...

I vote: No War. No military intervention whatsoever at this time. No dropping of dimes. Back off. Stand down. Go back to DEFCON 4.

Others can speak for themselves.

Hope that thelps.

 

[Vox]

Technically it's +1 for the nays.

I make it a policy not to vote in public polls...

oh, c'mon, don't be so rigid make an exception

 

[Zona]

If McCain had one, we would be in ww4 by now. This is why I don't understand republicans. That idiot could have won.

 

[Vox]

If McCain had one, we would be in ww4 by now. This is why I don't understand republicans. That idiot could have won.

it is YOU who are an idiot

 

[Samson]

If McCain had one, we would be in ww4 by now. This is why I don't understand republicans. That idiot could have won.

Once again you've skillfully combined the incomprehensible, with the off-topical, as a brilliant diversionary tactic.



Bravo.

 

[The T]

If McCain had one, we would be in ww4 by now. This is why I don't understand republicans. That idiot could have won.

What is it with you Statists and 'what if's' that aren't germain and never have been?

Just gotta drone in your grey areas, right? **** Reality...Reality is...IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Get with the program and reality. STOP trying to make excuses and making yourself feel better for voting for your hero that has the world on fire that you know is wrong.

DEAL?

 

[Katzndogz]

I just saw Duncan Hunter, CA congressman. He just returned from a tour of the middle east. obama has completely destroyed our relationship with Jordan. AQ fighters are crossing the border to destabilize Jordan so they completely closed the border. Refugees have nowhere to go. Turkey did the same thing and turned their gun batteries toward Syria.

obama imagines that he can send over a few cruise missiles then go home. This shows every indication of being a butterfly effect.

Who knows how many people are going to suffer for his hurt feelings?

 

[Desperado]

Israel used phosphorous bombs in Gaza.

Video shows evidence of phosphorus bombs in Gaza | World news | theguardian.com

First, the use of white phosphorous is not illegal. Why don't you mention how sri lanka slaughtered 5,000 civilians, or russia killed tens of thousands in chechnya, or china has mass murdered tens of thousands in tibet...

Why is israel mentioned? Agenda, perhaps?

If you are talking about killing civilians, does it really matter what they used?
Israel used phosphorous bombs in Gaza, sri lanka slaughtered 5,000 civilians,
russia killed tens of thousands in chechnya, and china has mass murdered tens of thousands in tibet,
So the question is where was the out cry for those murders?
What makes Syria different?

 

[rhodescholar]

What kind of blood-thirsty dupe are you? You want the US believe that a group of Ex-Patriot Syrian Eggheads who haven't seen Damascus in years and are living in Paris, Princeton, Belgium and London are IN CONTROL of this revolution??... We should run to aid these posers? And not any of the guys actually FIGHTING to depose Assad? Seems to me -- we should have learned our lesson about disposing "dictators" who keep the lid on extremists.. .

Oh yeah, that makes sense, expat syrians living abroad are the ones who have been able to sustain an intense, ongoing civil war for almost three full years, yeah ok.

A sure sign of someone who has no ******* clue on this conflict is to hear them say "we're helping the rebels, who are al qaeda". If there was not massive, indigenous support for the FSA, there is no way on earth this conflict could have lasted this long. The FSA is estimated at over 150,000 strong, with maybe 5-6,000 jihadists AT MOST.

It would not have been possible to sustain the conflict this long without widespread, local support.

 

[deltex1]

"...I always love a cumbayah moment...but what is proposed is not war...so voting no on war does not mean we should drop a dime on Assad."

I think it's safe to say that when I saw the "War - Yes or No?" tagline, that I construed that to mean: "No war, nor warlike nor hostile intervention, at this time. Stand down."...

As did, I will wager, most folks around here over the age of 10...

But, just for clarification's sake...

And speaking only for myself...

I vote: No War. No military intervention whatsoever at this time. No dropping of dimes. Back off. Stand down. Go back to DEFCON 4.

Others can speak for themselves.

Hope that thelps.

So that means no red lines no mo no mo?????

 

[rhodescholar]

If you are talking about killing civilians, does it really matter what they used? Israel used phosphorous bombs in Gaza, sri lanka slaughtered 5,000 civilians,russia killed tens of thousands in chechnya, and china has mass murdered tens of thousands in tibet, So the question is where was the out cry for those murders? What makes Syria different?

Every one of those conflicts was a war of choice, whereas israel was fighting to stop thousands of rockets continuing to strike it from gaza.

Chechnya did not threaten the existence of russia, tibet did not threaten the existence of china, the tamil tigers did not threaten the existence of sri lanka...

Syria is different because the world CAN do something to stop the mass slaughter of women and children. Had the West threatened russia or china, it could have started a global conflict, an issue not applicable to syria.

 

[Rozman]

Greta covered for O'Reilly and I got some more info....
What exactly will launching a few missles accomplish???

Even Britain said no way.
It seems we don't have proof that chemical weapons were used...

 

[The T]

Greta covered for O'Reilly and I got some more info....
What exactly will launching a few missles accomplish???

Even Britain said no way.
It seems we don't have proof that chemical weapons were used...

At least in the 'unclassified documents' John F'ing Kerry (who served in Viet Nam), referred to...that were released for consumption to the masses...(And what of that 'Classified Briefing' Congresscritters are about to endure)?

It's a RUSE.

I don't trust ANY of it.

 

[Vox]

"...I always love a cumbayah moment...but what is proposed is not war...so voting no on war does not mean we should drop a dime on Assad."

I think it's safe to say that when I saw the "War - Yes or No?" tagline, that I construed that to mean: "No war, nor warlike nor hostile intervention, at this time. Stand down."...

As did, I will wager, most folks around here over the age of 10...

But, just for clarification's sake...

And speaking only for myself...

I vote: No War. No military intervention whatsoever at this time. No dropping of dimes. Back off. Stand down. Go back to DEFCON 4.

Others can speak for themselves.

Hope that thelps.

So that means no red lines no mo no mo?????

that means - somebody else will have to cover this time.
The world referee needs a break

 

[Kondor3]

"...So that means no red lines no mo no mo?"

God only knows how you extrapolated that outcome from the point-of-departure, but...

No... that does not mean 'no more red lines', or 'lines in the sand'...

We merely need to do a better job of determining when it is appropriate to draw such a line...

And when it is not...

This way, we avoid saber-rattling over things that few people support or give two shits about...

Obumble did a bad job of determining when to draw such a line in the sand...

He was 180-degrees-out from his Constituency... Left, Right and Center...

Shit like that happens sometimes...

Obama will get it straight, eventually...

One learns by doing...

But that is not the primary focus here...

The primary focus here is the overwhelming opposition to any such intervention, on the part of the American People...

Regardless of WHO is the President du Jour...

Obama, and the United States military, are the servants of The People...

They should now conduct themselves as such in this matter...

 

[dilloduck]

If you are talking about killing civilians, does it really matter what they used? Israel used phosphorous bombs in Gaza, sri lanka slaughtered 5,000 civilians,russia killed tens of thousands in chechnya, and china has mass murdered tens of thousands in tibet, So the question is where was the out cry for those murders? What makes Syria different?

Every one of those conflicts was a war of choice, whereas israel was fighting to stop thousands of rockets continuing to strike it from gaza.

Chechnya did not threaten the existence of russia, tibet did not threaten the existence of china, the tamil tigers did not threaten the existence of sri lanka...

Syria is different because the world CAN do something to stop the mass slaughter of women and children. Had the West threatened russia or china, it could have started a global conflict, an issue not applicable to syria.

How ? By telling Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar to back off ? There's no mass slaughter going on in Syria but the war of choice that's being waged by Turkey, Saudia Arabia and Qatar is creating a humanitarian crisis. American people want no part of it.

 

[deltex1]

"...So that means no red lines no mo no mo?"

God only knows how you extrapolated that outcome from the point-of-departure, but...

No... that does not mean 'no more red lines', or 'lines in the sand'...

We merely need to do a better job of determining when it is appropriate to draw such a line...

And when it is not...

This way, we saber-rattling over things that few people support or give two shits about...

Obumble did a bad job of determining when to draw such a line in the sand...

He was 180-degrees-out from his Constitutency... Left, Right and Center...

Shit like that happens sometimes...

Obama will get it straight, eventually...

One learns by doing...

But that is not the primary focus here...

The primary focus here is the overwhelming opposition to any such intervention, on the part of the American People...

Regardless of WHO is the President du Jour...

Obama, and the United States military, are the servants of The People...

They should now conduct themselves as such in this matter...

I hear what you are saying...however these are the same American people who have given the reins of power to a rank amateur...so maybe that makes them as stupid as he...I remain an advocate of removing Assad...and dealing with the aftermath with awesome destruction if warrented.

 

[Trajan]

"passing the global test..." who remembers that?


No president, though all of American history, has ever ceded, and nor would I, the right to preempt in any way necessary to protect the United States of America.

But if and when you do it, Jim, you have to do it in a way that passes the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you’re doing what you’re doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons.

washingtonpost.com - Presidential Debate Between President Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry



that was then, this is now;

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDN4L00Ls9E#t=26]Secretary John Kerry Syria FULL Statement, Unveils Evidence of Chemical Attack by Assad's Government - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JWBooth]

If you are talking about killing civilians, does it really matter what they used? Israel used phosphorous bombs in Gaza, sri lanka slaughtered 5,000 civilians,russia killed tens of thousands in chechnya, and china has mass murdered tens of thousands in tibet, So the question is where was the out cry for those murders? What makes Syria different?

Every one of those conflicts was a war of choice, whereas israel was fighting to stop thousands of rockets continuing to strike it from gaza.

Chechnya did not threaten the existence of russia, tibet did not threaten the existence of china, the tamil tigers did not threaten the existence of sri lanka...

Syria is different because the world CAN do something to stop the mass slaughter of women and children. Had the West threatened russia or china, it could have started a global conflict, an issue not applicable to syria.

How ? By telling Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar to back off ? There's no mass slaughter going on in Syria but the war of choice that's being waged by Turkey, Saudia Arabia and Qatar is creating a humanitarian crisis. American people want no part of it.

Rightly so.