War With Syria: Yea Or Nay?

[dilloduck]

Every one of those conflicts was a war of choice, whereas israel was fighting to stop thousands of rockets continuing to strike it from gaza.

Chechnya did not threaten the existence of russia, tibet did not threaten the existence of china, the tamil tigers did not threaten the existence of sri lanka...

Syria is different because the world CAN do something to stop the mass slaughter of women and children. Had the West threatened russia or china, it could have started a global conflict, an issue not applicable to syria.

How ? By telling Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar to back off ? There's no mass slaughter going on in Syria but the war of choice that's being waged by Turkey, Saudia Arabia and Qatar is creating a humanitarian crisis. American people want no part of it.

Rightly so.

Shouldn't that be enough ?

 

[Kondor3]

A dramatization of popular reaction against another war, with citizens confronting a sitting US President, one night at the Lincoln Memorial...



The operative piece (in my mind) between 2:19 and 4:01...

The Beast...

 

[JWBooth]

How ? By telling Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar to back off ? There's no mass slaughter going on in Syria but the war of choice that's being waged by Turkey, Saudia Arabia and Qatar is creating a humanitarian crisis. American people want no part of it.

Rightly so.

Shouldn't that be enough ?

You'd think so, perhaps this is anecdotal evidence for the devolution theory in the evolution of mankind

 

[Kondor3]

"...I hear what you are saying...however these are the same American people who have given the reins of power to a rank amateur...so maybe that makes them as stupid as he..."

Neither the stupidity of a sitting President nor the stupidity of the Electorate that put him there constitutes an adequate casus belli.

"...I remain an advocate of removing Assad...and dealing with the aftermath with awesome destruction if warrented."

I, too, am in favor of removing Assad.

But only if he is going to be replaced by a truly democratic government backed by the Syrian People and empowering their citizenry to change that government at will in an orderly fashion.

That is NOT what we would be fostering, should we hit Syria at this juncture...

Consequently, better the devil you know...

When the American People support a strike on Syria then I will reconsider my position.

 

[flacaltenn]

If McCain had one, we would be in ww4 by now. This is why I don't understand republicans. That idiot could have won.

Probably the ONLY THING we agree on. But McCain isnt the only dangerously stupid politician in power.

 

[Geaux4it]

You know, in a sick kind of perverted way, I hope someone get's the fact we are out numbered in Cali

-Geaux

 

[dilloduck]

Rightly so.

Shouldn't that be enough ?

You'd think so, perhaps this is anecdotal evidence for the devolution theory in the evolution of mankind

Or more simply ulterior motives that are being kept secret from Americans.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Doesn't it concern people that the U.S. and Israel are responsible for half of the foreign invasions in the last 30 years and considering there are 196 countries in the world? Since our Afghanistan invasion, 5 of them were unprovoked (Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, Libya). Syria will make 6.

List of invasions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2011 invasion of Libya by United States
2008 invasion of Gaza, by Israel
2008 invasion of Georgia by Russia
2008 invasion of Anjouan by the African Union
2006 invasion of Somalia by Ethiopia
2006 invasion of Lebanon by Israel
2003 invasion of Iraq by United States-led coalition
2001 invasion of Afghanistan by United States-led coalition
1998 invasion of Ethiopia by Eritrea
1994 invasion of Haiti by a multinational force (MNF) led by the United States
1991 invasion of Kuwait and southern Iraq by a coalition force of 34 nations led by the United States
1990 invasion of Kuwait by Iraq
1989 invasion of Liberia launched from Côte d'Ivoire by the National Patriotic Front of Liberia
1989 invasion of Panama by the United States
1988 invasion of Spratly Islands by China
1983 invasion of Grenada by the United States and allied Caribbean nations

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

I always love a cumbayah moment...but what is proposed is not war...so voting no on war does not mean we should not drop a dime on Assad.

The question is "War with Syria: yea or nay?" It doesn't say anything about proposals.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

If McCain had one, we would be in ww4 by now. This is why I don't understand republicans. That idiot could have won.

I was gonna say something just like that earlier. And I fiercely supported McCain too.

It's hard to be a republican nowadays. GWB was lousy too.

 

[Noomi]

I say no, because America gets involve in too many bloody wars and we want no part of it. Mind your own business, get the **** out and let them sort it out themselves.

 

[Vandalshandle]

What the hell is it that causes otherwise normal people to decide to go to war, just because he has become Commander in Chief?

Show me where US national security is threatened. Show me international support. Show me congressional support.

Obama has done it this time. A strike is almost certain, and it will result in landslide elections for republicans in 2014.

Yes, I am a democrat, but I have had enough of this crap. Someone needs to reel Obama in. Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass about what the Syrians do to each other. They have been doing it to each other for a thousand years or more. Absolutely nothing that Obama does is going to change that one bit. I am beginning to believe that, as a nation, we are better off when Obama is on vacation playing golf.

 

[skye]

It's all happening in a few days or hours now ....so it doesn't matter what you - nay sayers say

Put up with it!


Oh Lord you are a stubborn lot ! but it does not matter anymore

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

You can't force people to accept your will for them, unless you imprison them or in this case keep a permanent occupation. It's like a law of nature. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria will all revert to what they were or worse, and we will be responsible for what 1 million deaths in that process.

 

[rhodescholar]

There's no mass slaughter going on in Syria but the war of choice that's being waged by Turkey, Saudia Arabia and Qatar is creating a humanitarian crisis. American people want no part of it.

Wut? There's no mass slaughters or massacres that have taken place in syria? The whole uprising there, beginning with peaceful marches of syrians chanting, never took place? What ******* planet are you living on?

 

[rhodescholar]

Doesn't it concern people that the U.S. and Israel are responsible for half of the foreign invasions in the last 30 years and considering there are 196 countries in the world? Since our Afghanistan invasion, 5 of them were unprovoked (Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, Libya). Syria will make 6.

List of invasions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2011 invasion of Libya by United States
2008 invasion of Gaza, by Israel
2008 invasion of Georgia by Russia
2008 invasion of Anjouan by the African Union
2006 invasion of Somalia by Ethiopia
2006 invasion of Lebanon by Israel
2003 invasion of Iraq by United States-led coalition
2001 invasion of Afghanistan by United States-led coalition
1998 invasion of Ethiopia by Eritrea
1994 invasion of Haiti by a multinational force (MNF) led by the United States
1991 invasion of Kuwait and southern Iraq by a coalition force of 34 nations led by the United States
1990 invasion of Kuwait by Iraq
1989 invasion of Liberia launched from Côte d'Ivoire by the National Patriotic Front of Liberia
1989 invasion of Panama by the United States
1988 invasion of Spratly Islands by China
1983 invasion of Grenada by the United States and allied Caribbean nations

"Unprovoked"? Is this the national asshole of america forum? Afghanistan was not used by al qaeda to attack the US? Hezbollah did not start a war with israel in 2006? Hamas was not firing rockets into civilian areas of israel?

Second, there have been a shitload of other wars that you failed to mention, like the Falklands, dozens in Africa, etc.

You're as full of shit a moron as I've seen in this forum, and I've seen many here. Quite simply, you are incredibly ******* STUPID.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

There's no mass slaughter going on in Syria but the war of choice that's being waged by Turkey, Saudia Arabia and Qatar is creating a humanitarian crisis. American people want no part of it.

Wut? There's no mass slaughters or massacres that have taken place in syria? The whole uprising there, beginning with peaceful marches of syrians chanting, never took place? What ******* planet are you living on?

Maybe, he meant it is a fight for survival, which would technically make it simply a disaster.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Doesn't it concern people that the U.S. and Israel are responsible for half of the foreign invasions in the last 30 years and considering there are 196 countries in the world? Since our Afghanistan invasion, 5 of them were unprovoked (Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, Libya). Syria will make 6.

List of invasions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2011 invasion of Libya by United States
2008 invasion of Gaza, by Israel
2008 invasion of Georgia by Russia
2008 invasion of Anjouan by the African Union
2006 invasion of Somalia by Ethiopia
2006 invasion of Lebanon by Israel
2003 invasion of Iraq by United States-led coalition
2001 invasion of Afghanistan by United States-led coalition
1998 invasion of Ethiopia by Eritrea
1994 invasion of Haiti by a multinational force (MNF) led by the United States
1991 invasion of Kuwait and southern Iraq by a coalition force of 34 nations led by the United States
1990 invasion of Kuwait by Iraq
1989 invasion of Liberia launched from Côte d'Ivoire by the National Patriotic Front of Liberia
1989 invasion of Panama by the United States
1988 invasion of Spratly Islands by China
1983 invasion of Grenada by the United States and allied Caribbean nations

"Unprovoked"? Is this the national asshole of america forum? Afghanistan was not used by al qaeda to attack the US? Hezbollah did not start a war with israel in 2006? Hamas was not firing rockets into civilian areas of israel?

Second, there have been a shitload of other wars that you failed to mention, like the Falklands, dozens in Africa, etc.

You're as full of shit a moron as I've seen in this forum, and I've seen many here. Quite simply, you are incredibly ******* STUPID.

The Falklands war was 31 years ago. I said in the last 30 years. I used the list from Wikipedia. If you have some from Africa not listed, then state them, and we can see if they qualify.

Firing a few rockets by Hezbollah is less than nothing compared to the total blockade of the Palestinian land and the illegal settlements.

When Al Qaeda attacked us on 911, they had done nothing that would have made it unreasonable for them to be in Afghanistan. Clinton didn't do anything about it and could have. The Taliban had no control over that situation.

Looks like you're the one who has the shortcomings.

 

[rhodescholar]

The Falklands war was 31 years ago. I said in the last 30 years.

Close enough.

I used the list from Wikipedia. If you have some from Africa not listed, then state them, and we can see if they qualify.

Ethiopean troops entered somalia, for one.

Firing a few rockets by Hezbollah is less than nothing

"Firing a few rockets"? That is nothing? To a stupid, ******* retarded trolling asshole like you perhaps - but they did more than that jackass, they sent commandos across the border - a war crime - and kidnapped soldiers. Learn some facts, moron.

compared to the total blockade of the Palestinian land and the illegal settlements.

First of all the land is legally DISPUTED, second, moron, the West Bank is not blockaded, and neither is Gaza. The nanosecond israel pulled out of gaza, they were hit with rocket fire. Yes, you really are that ******* stupid. Just stop posting already.

When Al Qaeda attacked us on 911, they had done nothing that would have made it unreasonable for them to be in Afghanistan. Clinton didn't do anything about it and could have. The Taliban had no control over that situation.

Asshole, Bush demanded that the taliban hand over al qaeda, and they refused. Not only are you ******* stupid, you're lazy and possibly mentally ill.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

The Falklands war was 31 years ago. I said in the last 30 years.

Close enough.

Only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, something like that? LOL

I used the list from Wikipedia. If you have some from Africa not listed, then state them, and we can see if they qualify.

Ethiopean troops entered somalia, for one.

That IS on the list.