Want ONE simple law to help curb mass-shootings?

[nat4900]

I think I found it, it was against Bushmaster. Who is on record as saying they settled because of the mounting cost of litigation. They believed it was in the best interest monetarily. There was no admission of liability on their part.

IDIOTIC "conclusion"....Of course in such settlements there is "no admission of liability"....otherwise that would open up thousands of other lawsuits based on THAT same admission.

 

[nat4900]

od to see you understand that your idea has no merit.

That "conclusion" had to come out from some orifice of yours where the sun seldom shines.....

 

[nat4900]

Right wingers may not like MY suggestion.....and that is perfectly OK...

However, not ONE of these nitwits could suggest some idea of their own on how to curb the slaughter of children and innocent adults, except for maybe arming even their grandmothers

 

[M14 Shooter]

od to see you understand that your idea has no merit.

That "conclusion" had to come out from some orifice of yours where the sun seldom shines.....

Your response had nothing to do with the post you responded to -- that is, a red herring.
You offered your red herring to because you know you had no meaningful response to the post.
Good to see you understand that your idea has no merit

 

[M14 Shooter]

Right wingers may not like MY suggestion.....and that is perfectly OK...
However, not ONE of these nitwits could suggest some idea of their own on how to curb the slaughter of children and innocent adults,except for maybe arming even their grandmothers

You aren't paying attention.
You also appear to mot understand that a lack of alternative to your idea in no way supports your idea.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

od to see you understand that your idea has no merit.

That "conclusion" had to come out from some orifice of yours where the sun seldom shines.....

You realize that you have yet to justify your idiotic claims that suing gun manufacturers is the solution. Your only response seems to be to capitalize "IDIOT".

You got nothing little boy....

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Nah, don't need an enema. You're the living epitome of one, with as much bullshit as you spew on a routine basis.

You spend all of your time blaming the gun and not the killer, the gun manufacturer and not the killer, lax gun laws and not the killer, the NRA and not the killer, George Bush and not the killer.

You do everything but blame the killer.

So, I understand where Rustic is coming from.

Brilliant...........So, I'm "protecting" the killers....and you're protecting the gun manufacturers and dealers.....Excellent conclusion...from a moron like you,

So, I'm "protecting" the killers

Arent' you?

You don't give 2 shits about Lanza, you dont' give 2 shits about Loughner, you don't give 2 shits about Roof.

Your rants are about the weapons, and the people that manufacture them.

drunk driver decides to drive down the sidewalk, takes out 15 pedestrians..

Your type wants to blame the booze, the car, whatever.

Not the drunk behind the wheel.

That's what you get from the participation trophy crowd... they're special, nothing is ever their fault, the devil made them do it. Fucking insolent children most of them and boy are they going to be in for a rude awakening.

 

[nat4900]

od to see you understand that your idea has no merit.

That "conclusion" had to come out from some orifice of yours where the sun seldom shines.....

You realize that you have yet to justify your idiotic claims that suing gun manufacturers is the solution Your only response seems to be to capitalize "IDIOT".

Yogurt nothing little boy....

Never stated that my idea was the answer to all the carnage.....(In case you need a dictionary, THAT is why I stated on the title the term "CURB")

But, as I can easily see, you have NOTHING to suggest....just spewing hate-filled stupidities.

 

[nat4900]

I am certainly hoping that in Connecticut, the slaughter of babies will yield a HUGE settlement from the gun manufacturer...so that these PEDDLERS OF DEATH stop selling products that are only meant to cause anguish for profit.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

od to see you understand that your idea has no merit.

That "conclusion" had to come out from some orifice of yours where the sun seldom shines.....

You realize that you have yet to justify your idiotic claims that suing gun manufacturers is the solution Your only response seems to be to capitalize "IDIOT".

Yogurt nothing little boy....

Never stated that my idea was the answer to all the carnage.....(In case you need a dictionary, THAT is why I stated on the title the term "CURB")

But, as I can easily see, you have NOTHING to suggest....just spewing hate-filled stupidities.

People gonna kill people... its timeless. Now, I have made suggestions like better access to mental hygiene, stronger families, etc. But suing gun manufacturers isn't going to solve anything, not to mention, you can't hold anyone other than the perpetrator of a crime liable for the crime; it just doesn't work that way, as I pointed out to you.

And we get it, you hate guns.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I am certainly hoping that in Connecticut, the slaughter of babies will yield a HUGE settlement from the gun manufacturer...so that these PEDDLERS OF DEATH stop selling products that are only meant to cause anguish for profit.

Another lie.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I am certainly hoping that in Connecticut, the slaughter of babies will yield a HUGE settlement from the gun manufacturer...so that these PEDDLERS OF DEATH stop selling products that are only meant to cause anguish for profit.

Oh sweet Jesus.. cry me a river. Peddlers of death? Do you realize how many people die from drugs, cigarettes and alcohol each year? Your premise is as flawed as one can be.

 

[Auld Phart]

I am certainly hoping that in Connecticut, the slaughter of babies will yield a HUGE settlement from the gun manufacturer...so that these PEDDLERS OF DEATH stop selling products that are only meant to cause anguish for profit.

Won't happen

 

[nat4900]

I am certainly hoping that in Connecticut, the slaughter of babies will yield a HUGE settlement from the gun manufacturer...so that these PEDDLERS OF DEATH stop selling products that are only meant to cause anguish for profit.

Oh sweet Jesus.. cry me a river. Peddlers of death? Do you realize how many people die from drugs, cigarettes and alcohol each year? Your premise is as flawed as one can be.

Yes, I realize that you're echoing what Jeb-baby stated....."Hey, shit happens...too bad."

However drugs and cigarettes companies ARE being sued constantly...BUT, gun manufacturers "bought" themselves a law to prevent lawsuits....

Hopefully, the CT lawsuit is challneging that "special privilege."

 

[nat4900]

I am certainly hoping that in Connecticut, the slaughter of babies will yield a HUGE settlement from the gun manufacturer...so that these PEDDLERS OF DEATH stop selling products that are only meant to cause anguish for profit.

Won't happen

I guess we'll see.

 

[HUGGY]

Sandy Hook could have been prevented if the dude's mom hadn't enabled her mentally ill son. She hid the fact that her boy was extremely hateful and armed. She in fact supplied him with some of the weapons and weapons training. If she wasn't dead by the hand of her son she would have been prosecuted for her extreme negligence. There was a heaping pile of crazy in THAT household. Sandy Hook COULD have been prevented. The mom was responsible. Her son was responsible. There were probably mental health people that had a strong inkling that there was a time bomb about to go off.

The Colorado movie theater shooting could have been prevented if as it seems SEVERAL people saw the shooter as very dangerous including mental health people. This guy was no secret.

The Oregon shooter didn't live in a vacuum either. His parents knew something was very wrong with him. They kept this to themselves.

We can't expect insane people to turn themselves in but we can expect MORE from those close to them.

Aside from the fact that "the carnage" is actually very rare it is HIGHLY publicized. I wish the media would ask the public to be more vigilant in noticing when people within their lives that are armed and not playing with a full deck. I don't recall any previous police involvement in the lives of the three above examples. I keep seeing that there was NO police involvement. WHO'S fault is that? Obviously those closest to the three people listed have SOME responsibility. Obviously none of them are going to come forward and apologize that they did nothing.

Even IF more people are MORE vigilant and turn in people for questioning and/or some closer observation that have made threats or are going through very difficult times and have weapons there is no guarantee that a very few will not slip through the cracks.

If we take away the Sandy Hook incident and the Batman killer in Colorado and others where there definitely was actionable intelligence to get authorities involved there are really very few of these occurrences. Certainly not enough of them to label the number as a lot of "carnage".

 

[KGB]

Sandy Hook could have been prevented if the dude's mom hadn't enabled her mentally ill son. She hid the fact that her boy was extremely hateful and armed. She in fact supplied him with some of the weapons and weapons training. If she wasn't dead by the hand of her son she would have been prosecuted for her extreme negligence. There was a heaping pile of crazy in THAT household. Sandy Hook COULD have been prevented. The mom was responsible. Her son was responsible. There were probably mental health people that had a strong inkling that there was a time bomb about to go off.

The Colorado movie theater shooting could have been prevented if as it seems SEVERAL people saw the shooter as very dangerous including mental health people. This guy was no secret.

The Oregon shooter didn't live in a vacuum either. His parents knew something was very wrong with him. They kept this to themselves.

We can't expect insane people to turn themselves in but we can expect MORE from those close to them.

Aside from the fact that "the carnage" is actually very rare it is HIGHLY publicized. I wish the media would ask the public to be more vigilant in noticing when people within their lives that are armed and not playing with a full deck. I don't recall any previous police involvement in the lives of the three above examples. I keep seeing that there was NO police involvement. WHO'S fault is that? Obviously those closest to the three people listed have SOME responsibility. Obviously none of them are going to come forward and apologize that they did nothing.

Even IF more people are MORE vigilant and turn in people for questioning and/or some closer observation that have made threats or are going through very difficult times and have weapons there is no guarantee that a very few will not slip through the cracks.

If we take away the Sandy Hook incident and the Batman killer in Colorado and others where there definitely was actionable intelligence to get authorities involved there are really very few of these occurrences. Certainly not enough of them to label the number as a lot of "carnage".

You raised some great points here. I can't really fault the families of the shooters too much because they are not mental health professionals and let's face it, they aren't going to turn in their family members. That said, mental health is even harder to identify/diagnose than physical health. If someone is acting out of character, does it mean they are suddenly going to shoot up a school? Probably not, but in the rare instances they do turn this violent, it usually ends in tragedy. There are patterns at work here & those can be used to built profiles. Granted, we cannot cry wolf every time someone has a bad day, but enough red flags exist which provide important clues along the way. Vigilance is key as well as collecting data which provides clues.

 

[deltex1]

Actually, we should always follow what lobbyists push (aka, BRIBE) congress to do (and in some instance, NOT to do) when searching for legislation to curb an abuse of the common welfare and good.

Regarding mass murders, we know that gun manufacturers (and their bought puppet, the NRA) fought and won the right to NOT be sued for the misuse of their deadly products.

If we wanted to make a substantial dent with mass shootings (almost impossible to eliminate without reversing the Constitution's 2nd amendment) pass a law that gun manufacturers AND gun vendors can be sued when their product is sold WITHOUT a thorough background and psychological clean bill of health.

Who is tasked to provide the clean bill of health?

 

[nat4900]

Even IF more people are MORE vigilant and turn in people for questioning and/or some closer observation that have made threats or are going through very difficult times and have weapons there is no guarantee that a very few will not slip through the cracks.

If we take away the Sandy Hook incident and the Batman killer in Colorado and others where there definitely was actionable intelligence to get authorities involved there are really very few of these occurrences. Certainly not enough of them to label the number as a lot of "carnage".

I actually agree and thank you for the sane contribution void of the same old name-calling. I used the label "carnage" mostly regarding the 21 children at Newtown who were torn apart by the barrage of bullets from that crazed-bastard, Lanza.

We would love to, but cannot rely on parents or relatives to turn in the walking time-bombs, and my point was and is that gun manufacturers need to share SOME of the blame for producing products whose only real (and realistic) function is to kill...and kill with much more of the speed and "accuracy: than a knife, a hammer, and even a handgun as some others on this thread tried to equate as "just as dangerous a weapon."

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Even IF more people are MORE vigilant and turn in people for questioning and/or some closer observation that have made threats or are going through very difficult times and have weapons there is no guarantee that a very few will not slip through the cracks.

If we take away the Sandy Hook incident and the Batman killer in Colorado and others where there definitely was actionable intelligence to get authorities involved there are really very few of these occurrences. Certainly not enough of them to label the number as a lot of "carnage".

I actually agree and thank you for the sane contribution void of the same old name-calling. I used the label "carnage" mostly regarding the 21 children at Newtown who were torn apart by the barrage of bullets from that crazed-bastard, Lanza.

We would love to, but cannot rely on parents or relatives to turn in the walking time-bombs, and my point was and is that gun manufacturers need to share SOME of the blame for producing products whose only real (and realistic) function is to kill...and kill with much more of the speed and "accuracy: than a knife, a hammer, and even a handgun as some others on this thread tried to equate as "just as dangerous a weapon."

No one is equating hammers and handguns on a lethality level.... only pointing out the absurdity of holding the manufacturer or something liable for the misdeeds of a person who used that object to harm someone else.