Moonglow
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I have never been called an elitist, thanks, now bow down and kiss my ass.^^^Look how angry the elitists get when their bubble is popped!
LOL!
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I have never been called an elitist, thanks, now bow down and kiss my ass.^^^Look how angry the elitists get when their bubble is popped!
LOL!
Wait time is not recorded as work time.
^^^Look how angry the elitists get when their bubble is popped!
LOL!
Anger? Get a life. I made a joke.^^^Look how angry the elitists get when their bubble is popped!
LOL!
You better read the regulations...you're wrong
There shouldn't be any debate on this one...FMCSA regulates DRIVING hours, not WORKING hours (on duty)...I have, thoroughly; after 70 hours you just can't drive; you can unload trailers, do maintenance, any other kind of work you want to.
So, while you're partially correct, that you can work the dock after your 11 hrs driving, you have to log it as "on duty not driving", and counts toward your 70/8 clock.
They apparently didn't work much, or also were horrible business people.As I have said a couple times now.
I am glad that WalMart is realizing how important truckers are. many companies do not seem to realize this and treat them as disposable assists.
Watched an interview with a couple that drive as a team. They were made "independent contractors" by their trucking company. They grossed 120 grand, and after all the expenses involved with a big rig including buying the fuel they cleared less than 30 grand at the end of the year.
Anger? Get a life. I made a joke.
They apparently didn't work much, or also were horrible business people.
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As I have said a couple times now.
I am glad that WalMart is realizing how important truckers are. many companies do not seem to realize this and treat them as disposable assists.
Watched an interview with a couple that drive as a team. They were made "independent contractors" by their trucking company. They grossed 120 grand, and after all the expenses involved with a big rig including buying the fuel they cleared less than 30 grand at the end of the year.
Most people can't claim to have $30,000 left over at the end of every year to save, invest, or do whatever with. That's a pretty good cashflow situation.
That 30 grand is not what was left over. That is what their take home pay was after the paid all the expenses of operating a truck. it did not include things like food and clothing or anything else that is not truck related.
I doubt that. Do you have a link to the story you referred to?
My own link says they are making on average twice what your people are making.Your own link says that expenses can run over 70% percent. They had to replace an entire which put it above this even.
And for the hours they work even 50 to 60 grand is not near enough
Yes, nothing prevents a driver from working after 70 hours, and yes they can't drive after 70...but really, most drivers rarely hit their 70 hours in an 8 day week. It's why drivers can drive, pretty much, every day, without taking any time off. It's why they call it a rolling 8 day week, you get hours back each day.Absolutely right.
After 70 hours of [b[logged[/b] work, they can't drive, but they can keep working as long as they want. You need a refresher course. Most drivers, nor 'electronic logs', are going to log time sitting at docks or sleeping the cab waiting on a unload time as 'working hours'. OTR drivers are actually on duty 24 hours a day, and sleeping on the job, if you want to get technical about it.
Right, because when you are waiting..you're not working. You're usually sleeping.Wait time is not recorded as work time.
yeah, do whatever they want with....That 30 grand is not what was left over. That is what their take home pay was after the paid all the expenses of operating a truck. it did not include things like food and clothing or anything else that is not truck related.