Wait....when it is too hot, solar panels do not work efficiently? But...isn't being in the sun their selling point? The left..get it wrong again....

Thank you for proving it is the government forcing electric cars on us. From your link. Amazing, I say it is the goverment, crick says no and links, to prove I am right. Crick you really dont know a damn thing.

From crick's source;
Popular attitudes toward climate change are shifting, legislative combustion engine bans are looming and EV
 
Thank you for proving it is the government forcing electric cars on us. From your link. Amazing, I say it is the goverment, crick says no and links, to prove I am right. Crick you really dont know a damn thing.

From crick's source;
Liar. I said auto manufacturers chose to go full electric long before any government action was ever taken and that is a fact.

Legislative bans are looming is an opinion. No such federal bans exist though seven states are planning such bans. California is the only state that has actually enacted such legislature which won't even begin till model year 2026 and calling it "a ban" is a stretch.

Formally known as the Advanced Clean Car II Regulations, the state's proposed mandate takes effect in stages, requiring 35% of new-car sales to be zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs) in 2026 and 68% in 2030 before reaching 100% five years later. California's plan includes state support for the shift to ZEVs with $2.4 billion for vehicle purchase incentives, charging infrastructure, and public outreach.
Critically, the Golden State's EV mandate will neither ban used ICE vehicle sales nor ownership. So residents can keep driving their gas-burning models, including classic cars.
Under the proposed ZEV mandate, battery-electric vehicles (BEVs) must offer at least 150 miles of range on a charge. Of the 32 BEV new models on sale in the U.S. in September 2022, BMW's Mini Cooper SE and Mazda's MX-30, with respective 114-mile and 100-mile ranges, fall short of that requirement. All the other models achieve between 215 and 520 miles of range, and this metric continues to trend upward.
To give consumers more vehicle choices, California's ZEV mandate will allow plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) to account for up to 20% of the sales mix. California's new rules specify at least 50 miles of battery-only range for these vehicles. Four of the 34 PHEVs available in September 2022 had a battery range of 40 miles or higher, but automakers have time to improve on this.

California's legislation will not prevent a resident from buying a car in another state and driving it home for normal use.
 
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Liar. I said auto manufacturers chose to go full electric long before any government action was ever taken and that is a fact.

Legislative bans are looming is an opinion. No such federal bans exist though seven states are planning such bans. California is the only state that has actually enacted such legislature which won't even begin till model year 2026 and calling it "a ban" is a stretch.

Formally known as the Advanced Clean Car II Regulations, the state's proposed mandate takes effect in stages, requiring 35% of new-car sales to be zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs) in 2026 and 68% in 2030 before reaching 100% five years later. California's plan includes state support for the shift to ZEVs with $2.4 billion for vehicle purchase incentives, charging infrastructure, and public outreach.
Critically, the Golden State's EV mandate will neither ban used ICE vehicle sales nor ownership. So residents can keep driving their gas-burning models, including classic cars.
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Under the proposed ZEV mandate, battery-electric vehicles (BEVs) must offer at least 150 miles of range on a charge. Of the 32 BEV new models on sale in the U.S. in September 2022, BMW's Mini Cooper SE and Mazda's MX-30, with respective 114-mile and 100-mile ranges, fall short of that requirement. All the other models achieve between 215 and 520 miles of range, and this metric continues to trend upward.
To give consumers more vehicle choices, California's ZEV mandate will allow plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) to account for up to 20% of the sales mix. California's new rules specify at least 50 miles of battery-only range for these vehicles. Four of the 34 PHEVs available in September 2022 had a battery range of 40 miles or higher, but automakers have time to improve on this.

California's legislation will not prevent a resident from buying a car in another state and driving it home for normal use.
ok, show us how cars companies stated they were going to electric vehicles before the any government action.
 
ok, show us how cars companies stated they were going to electric vehicles before the any government action.
I just did you twit.

All major manufacturers had announced plans to go full electric by mid 2022. The only legislative action taken by anyone was in California whose bill won't begin to take effect till 2026 and which at no point will ban ownership and use of ICE vehicles
 
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Are you claiming no fossil fuels are consumed manufacturing solar panels? Are you stating if we increase the production of something that uses fossil fuels, than the consumption of fossil fuels go down, not up.
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You dont know nothing, we have increased the use of fossil fuels by using more natural resources, to build extremely inefficient wind turbines and solar panels.

The increased use of fossil fuels by the alternative/renewable/green heavy industry is a fact.

It is not a tiny increase, it is a massive increase. So massive, that they are building heavy industry that will operate 24 hours a day, forever, or until we run out of fossil fuels, building wind turbines and solar panels forever.

$100 trillion dollars, buys a lot a of fossil fuels and coal to build wind turbines and solar panels.
 
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You dont know nothing, we have increased the use of fossil fuels by using more natural resources, to build extremely inefficient wind turbines and solar panels.

The increased use of fossil fuels by the alternative/renewable/green heavy industry is a fact.

It is not a tiny increase, it is a massive increase. So massive, that they are building heavy industry that will operate 24 hours a day, forever, or until we run out of fossil fuels, building wind turbines and solar panels forever.

$100 trillion dollars, buys a lot a of fossil fuels and coal to build wind turbines and solar panels.
Then, you should be ecstatic. More fossil fuels burned!!!

Tell me, though...

When you quit cooking do you leave the stove on?
When you turn off the lights do they continue using power?

Then, maybe, just maybe, and you can check me on this, once a wind turbine is built and installed it no longer consumes fossil fuels.

Geez.
 
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That coal strip mine, is used to supply millions of tons to Solar Industry, to make MG Silicon from quartz

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When you quit cooking do you leave the stove on?
When you turn off the lights do they continue using power?

Then, maybe, just maybe, and you can check me on this, once a wind turbine is built and installed it no longer consumes fossil fuels.
Our stoves, our lights, used to use one source of power, the local Utility company provided, now you want us to power our stoves and lights with millions of solar panels and millions of wind turbines?

Why as we progress, our electricity source must digress, get bigger, less efficient, and destroy more of the earth, all well giving us a very tiny amount of power?

And yes, once a wind turbine is built it consumes fossil fuels, it's computers and radio, it's motors, all require constant electricity from the grid.

And yes, every single wind turbine requires hundreds of gallons of Oil for lubrication every year.
 
A stupid person would build a solar farm atop a coal seam ... I get that ...

The smart rancher in West Texas/Oklahoma builds their wind mill tower over their oil derrick ... and range cattle in between ... [ka'ching] ...

Do you desist on solar because it saves money? ... have you checked? ... along the Texas Gulf Coast, solar savings pay the loan off, if you've decent credit ... your results may be different, see what a free estimate is and make your choices based on your wallet ... and nothing else ...
 
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I like this picture, of the damage done in south africa gold mines. What does this have to do with coal mining?'

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But, it does have much to do with Solar Panels, some solar panels are being made with gold to improve their performance.
 
A stupid person would build a solar farm atop a coal seam ... I get that ...

The smart rancher in West Texas/Oklahoma builds their wind mill tower over their oil derrick ... and range cattle in between ... [ka'ching] ...

Do you desist on solar because it saves money? ... have you checked? ... along the Texas Gulf Coast, solar savings pay the loan off, if you've decent credit ... your results may be different, see what a free estimate is and make your choices based on your wallet ... and nothing else ...
Solar costs us taxpayers plenty, how do you get something for free? By having someone else pay for it.

You love solar because you love other people paying for your solar, other people working for you, for free.
 
Solar costs us taxpayers plenty, how do you get something for free? By having someone else pay for it.

You love solar because you love other people paying for your solar, other people working for you, for free.

Who's getting free solar panels? ... citation please ...

I don't have solar ... it rains every day all day long in Western Oregon ... where whities are really white ... sunshine is scary to us here ... skies are grey, period ... that blue is pollution ... ha ha ...

Bonneville, The Dallas, John Day, Priest Rapids ... do these names mean anything to you? ... why we smelt aluminum in the Pacific Northwest, "look at all the B-17s" ...
 
Who's getting free solar panels? ... citation please ...
Look into yourself, it is widely known that the government subsidies is the only reason there is a Solar Panel Market. That and the courts ignoring laws that kept electric rates low by not forcing us to buy solar power. As well as courts forcing utilities to buy solar power above the market rates.
 

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