Virginia judge stays certification of redistricting vote

[WorldWatcher]

WorldWatcher Why the crickets?

Because I have other parts to my b life besides this board.

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[WorldWatcher]

That "after" refers to the referral to the General Assembly.

Let's try this a different way. You tell me, what is the purpose of having an intervening election and why do each member name and how they voted have to be recorded?

The purpose of the intervening election is to have 2 General Assemblies approve it.

The recording of the names is so that such legislation is never passed by a voice vote so that voters can hold politicians responsible with their future bits.

Both deflection questions have very obvious answers.

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[Rawley]

The purpose of the intervening election is to have 2 General Assemblies approve it.

The recording of the names is so that such legislation is never passed by a voice vote so that voters can hold politicians responsible with their future bits.

Both deflection questions have very obvious answers.

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So they million + Virginians that already voted before they took the vote? How do they hold the politicians accountable under your theory? F*ck them?

That the obvious answer as to why the vote was unConstituional.

 

[Lisa558]

The problem is that the ballot question was misleading in order to elicit a “yes” - and that people thought they were voting for “temporary fairness” when they were voting to temporarily disenfranchise half the state.

 

[WorldWatcher]

So they million + Virginians that already voted before they took the vote? How do they hold the politicians accountable under your theory? F*ck them?

That the obvious answer as to why the vote was unConstituional.

My scenerio, which you mischaracterize, it votes AFTER an event can be used to hold politicians responsible for their actions.

But let's be honest here, Virginia put the vote to the voters which means all voter age Virginians got to weigh in on the question to amend the Constitution for the temporary redistricting provision.

There were 3,072,235 votes cast in the recent Special Election, let me check. Yep, that is 3,072,235 more votes than Texas received by it's people on their redistricting effort which if memory serves me was 0, Zippo, Nadda votes by the people. The Governor and Legislature just followed Trumps orders.

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[Lisa558]

My scenerio, which you mischaracterize, it votes AFTER an event can be used to hold politicians responsible for their actions.

But let's be honest here, Virginia put the vote to the voters which means all voter age Virginians got to weigh in on the question to amend the Constitution for the temporary redistricting provision.

There were 3,072,235 votes cast in the recent Special Election, let me check. Yep, that is 3,072,235 more votes than Texas received by it's people on their redistricting effort which if memory serves me was 0, Zippo, Nadda votes by the people. The Governor and Legislature just followed Trumps orders.

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They LIED on the ballot, misleading the voters into thinking a yes vote was “a vote for fairness.”

The election was fraudulent.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The problem is that the ballot question was misleading in order to elicit a “yes” - and that people thought they were voting for “temporary fairness” when they were voting to temporarily disenfranchise half the state.

#1 The Virginia redistricting language was fine, as (a) it is temporary, and (b) it is fair for Virginia to attemp to counter the Texas power grap for the mid-terms.

#2 No Virginia voters are being disenfranchised, all Virginian can still vote. Texas redistricted for a power grap to protect GOP seats in the mid-term. The SCOTUS basically said in their DEC 2025 decision on the challenge to Texas that political power grabs were acceptable. So they approved Texas's action, Virginias action were no different. No one is prevented from voting (i.e. disenfranchised), but under the Texas model you are not guarenteed to win. Not winning is not the same as disenfranchising. Such claims are just a childish hyperbole.

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[WorldWatcher]

They LIED on the ballot, misleading the voters into thinking a yes vote was “a vote for fairness.”

The election was fraudulent.

It was a vote for fairness, to counter the redistricting in Texas.

As a Virginia voter, I knew exactly what fairness referenced.

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[Lisa558]

#1 The Virginia redistricting language was fine, as (a) it is temporary, and (b) it is fair for Virginia to attemp to counter the Texas power grap for the mid-terms.

So it’s fair to disenfranchise Virginia voters because of Texas? And it’s OK to “temporarily” rob 45% of Virginians of representation in Congress?

#2 No Virginia voters are being disenfranchised, all Virginian can still vote. Texas redistricted for a power grap to protect GOP seats in the mid-term. The SCOTUS basically said in their DEC 2025 decision on the challenge to Texas that political power grabs were acceptable. So they approved Texas's action, Virginias action were no different. No one is prevented from voting (i.e. disenfranchised), but under the Texas model you are not guarenteed to win. Not winning is not the same as disenfranchising. Such claims are just a childish hyperbole.

Yes, we are being disenfranchised because we do not have anyone in Congress representing our interests. We will be represented by leftists who are opposed to our wishes.

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[Lisa558]

It was a vote for fairness, to counter the redistricting in Texas.

As a Virginia voter, I knew exactly what fairness referenced.

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1) YOU’RE in Virginia? Oy, you’re part of the problem. A government worker in NoVa?

2) And what VA did is extreme beyond measure. Nothing like Texas.

3) Robbing Virginians of representation has nothing to do with people in Texas.

 

[WorldWatcher]

So it’s fair to disenfranchise Virginia voters because of Texas?

No voters were disenfranchised in Virginia or Texas.

They are still represented by the elected Representatives, just because they lost doesn't change that.

And it’s OK to “temporarily” rob 45% of Virginians of representation in Congress?

No Virginians were robbed of representation in Congress just like no voters were robbed of representation in Texas.

Yes, we are being disenfranchised because we do not have anyone in Congress representing our interests. We will be represented by leftists who are opposed to our wishes.

No you are not, you still get to vote.

And as the SCOTUS said in DEC 2025 - redistricting for polical power is just fine (which is paraphrased from the decision) when it's done for political power.
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Sorry you don't like it, but the Virginia redistricting vote was in response to Texas. Texas = Good, Virginia = Bad doesn't pass the hypocracy test.

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[WorldWatcher]

1) YOU’RE in Virginia?

Yes.

Oy, you’re part of the problem.

No, I'm part of the response to Texas.

A government worker in NoVa?

No, I'm retired military and live in the Tidewater area.

2) And what VA did is extreme beyond measure. Nothing like Texas.

The "extreme" part is they put a vote to the people. Texas did it on orders of Trump.

3) Robbing Virginians of representation

No citizens of Virginia are "robbed" of Represenation, they will still have Represenatives. Some may not have voted for them, but they are still there.

has nothing to do with people in Texas.

It has everything to do with Texas. Without the Texas power grap, Virginia would have not had to respond.

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[Lisa558]

No voters were disenfranchised in Virginia or Texas.

They are still represented by the elected Representatives, just because they lost doesn't change that.



No Virginians were robbed of representation in Congress just like no voters were robbed of representation in Texas.



No you are not, you still get to vote.

And as the SCOTUS said in DEC 2025 - redistricting for polical power is just fine (which is paraphrased from the decision) when it's done for political power.
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Sorry you don't like it, but the Virginia redistricting vote was in response to Texas. Texas = Good, Virginia = Bad doesn't pass the hypocracy test.

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We are represented by LEFTARDS who will ignore what we want. That’s the very opposite of representation.

 

[Concerned American]

So it’s fair to disenfranchise Virginia voters because of Texas? And it’s OK to “temporarily” rob 45% of Virginians of representation in Congress?

I guess VA figured that MA, IL and CA have gotten away with gerrymandering for at least a couple decades, why not VA. RME

 

[WorldWatcher]

So it’s fair to disenfranchise Virginia voters because of Texas? And it’s OK to “temporarily” rob 45% of Virginians of representation in Congress?

Yes, we are being disenfranchised because we do not have anyone in Congress representing our interests. We will be represented by leftists who are opposed to our wishes.

Your're repeating yourself.

So just see my previous response.

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[Hafar1014]

Its DOA a blatant power grab

 

[Lisa558]

Your're repeating yourself.

So just see my previous response.

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I’m disagreeing with you because your previous points are wrong.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Glad to see Virginia triggered the MAGA's for doing the same thing as Texas and not liking it.

There is an old saying: "Watch what you ask for, you might get it, but not like the results."

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[WorldWatcher]

Its DOA a blatant power grab

December 2025 SCOTUS decision on the Texas redistricting.

Redistricting for political power is A-Okay.

Link to decision in a previous post in this thread.

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[WorldWatcher]

I’m disagreeing with you because your previous points are wrong.

We'll see won't we. The activist Judges decision to halt certification has already been appealed so we are waiting on an Appeals court ruling on the motion to stay.

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