Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house

[Jitss617]

People of color never want to be held accountable for what they do nor do they want their cousins held accountable.

They think the white man owe them.

Let me ask all the colored folk on here, would you rather live in Africa or America?

Yet to hear them talk they just got it oh so bad here in America. When in fact we know they have it better here than their cousins have it anywhere in the world. In no nation on earth are people of that persuasion given more than here in America. Hard working, good and decent white people work very hard to support black people but they bite the hands that feed them. Ever heard a black thank a farmer? Blacks thingroceries magically appear at the local walmart...have no idea how hard white work to produce all the stuff they get for free.

Despite all the free stuff White People give them they still want more. Nope, they are never satisfied always want more and more.

Our big mistake was allowing them to become citizens. They been working against America ever since.

Keep talkiin’ racist.

He’s being honest.. why can’t we have a honest conversation about race?

 

[Jitss617]

Lol This guy has a clear history of being a thug we have videos of him being arrested, stealing tv’s, tell cops to F off.

That's not for you to decide.

Are you going to stop me lol

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Evidence speaks for its self

 

[TheGreenHornet]

People of color never want to be held accountable for what they do nor do they want their cousins held accountable.

They think the white man owe them.

Let me ask all the colored folk on here, would you rather live in Africa or America?

Yet to hear them talk they just got it oh so bad here in America. When in fact we know they have it better here than their cousins have it anywhere in the world. In no nation on earth are people of that persuasion given more than here in America. Hard working, good and decent white people work very hard to support black people but they bite the hands that feed them. Ever heard a black thank a farmer? Blacks thingroceries magically appear at the local walmart...have no idea how hard white work to produce all the stuff they get for free.

Despite all the free stuff White People give them they still want more. Nope, they are never satisfied always want more and more.

Our big mistake was allowing them to become citizens. They been working against America ever since.

Keep talkiin’ racist.

Everyone is racistl None more so than blacks. Even Blacks say blacks are the most racist. We all know that.

More proof of why multi-racialism does not work.

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[Serioususername]

Greg McMichael as a former policeman had been appointed by the police as the point man or the man to go to regarding all the reports of trespassing at the home under construction....thus he had official sanction to be involved and thus your accusation he was taking the law into his own hands is ridiculous.

Even without his status as a former policeman and being officially tagged as the go to man in this case, just as a private citizen if one has reason to believe there is a criminal running down the street and in fact yo see him with your own eyes in front of your house it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect in order to help the police apprehend the suspect.

It’s true the act of continually going into that house was a provocative act,, Arbery was told not to go ! Our neighbors supposed to sit there and be terrorized? They followed him until the cops came, he got shot

This is the first I'm hearing of the property owner telling Arbery not to go into the house. When did that happen? Because if anyone ELSE told him not to(besides the police maybe) it doesn't matter because they have about as much authority as my left toe. He didn't steal anything, no one SAW him steal anything, and because the two people involved in his death didn't see him steal anything they had no right to try and Citizens arrest him.

They should go to jail.

Greg McMichael as a former policeman had been appointed by the police as the point man or the man to go to regarding all the reports of trespassing at the home under construction....thus he had official sanction to be involved and thus your accusation he was taking the law into his own hands is ridiculous.

Even without his status as a former policeman and being officially tagged as the go to man in this case, just as a private citizen if one has reason to believe there is a criminal running down the street and in fact yo see him with your own eyes in front of your house it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect in order to help the police apprehend the suspect.

Holy God that is not how life works, you don't get to be "Appointed go to man" and then get to do what you want outside of the law. That shit is likely illegal as all hell, but the main point is it doesn't matter if the police made him a Point of Contact because he's a NORMAL CITIZEN and has NO AUTHORITY to detain anyone unless he meets the criteria for a citizens arrest.

Until someone can prove Aubery committed a crime what the Dad and Son did is the only crime here. Because the rules of a Citizens arrest require you are aware of/have directly witnessed said crime. Trespassing? Only if the owner told him to stay away from his under construction home. Stealing? The Homeowner already said nothing was stolen and I've not seen any police report saying stolen property was recovered.

Go directly to jail.

You seem unaware that no citizens arrest was even made. Arguments can be made till the cows come home regarding whether or not they had a legal right to make a citizens arrest.

Greg McMichaels...the father did say or at least was reported as saying they "intended to make a Citizens Arrest" yet no such arrest was made. That is something that is being used by the leftwingers to divert attention from the truth of this case.


arrest

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ar·rest
(ə-rĕst′)
v. ar·rest·ed, ar·rest·ing, ar·rests
v.tr.

To seize and hold under the authority of law.
To capture and hold briefly
n.
The act of detaining in legal custody: the arrest of a criminal suspect. The state of being so detained: a suspect under arrest.

The point is they were trying to make a citizens arrest, by his own words, and in the process the murdered him. So far as we know at the moment. If they weren't trying to make a citizens arrest they should have stayed in the house, and they shouldn't have been trying to do that in the first place. So they should have stayed in the house ANYWAY.

The property owner was telling neighbors ppl were entering his property, he got a camera, he told the police Because the police deputized McMichaels as a neighborhood watch.. Get informed before you post

They didn't deputize him at all, where are you GETTING this stuff. I've read some officer told somebody that the dad is someone you can contact to deal with this or something. Which isn't deputizing him. Do you have a link that I can read this nonesense from? Anyway

seriously? Why was he caught running out of the house with a hammer?

Except he wasn't caught running out of the house with a hammer. No video shows him stealing anything from the house or leaving the house with anything.

And go in to a house Travis told him it wise to stay out of?? Then run like you stole something? Lol

Travis doesn't own squat so him saying stay out doesn't mean squat. The owner has to tell him, so he wasn't trespassing.

 

[texmaster]

And no one even attempted to detain him.

That’s not what the District Attorney wrote when he said there was no probable cause to arrest the men who were making a citizen’s arrest when one of the gunmen was attacked by the suspect.

So were the police and everybody lying to investigators and somehow you know that?

I could care less what an attention whore DA claims when the video proves no one even approached him.

Go ahead, explain how you can detain someone by never approaching the person? I'd love to hear this fantasy.

 

[Mr Natural]

What it boils down to is this:

There’s a couple of cracker assholes trying to make some kind of point. And now they face the possibility of spending the rest of their lives in jail.

Was it worth it? Probably not.

 

[Jitss617]

and in the process the murdered him

Wtf do you see a murder? Lol a murder has to be premeditated.. they are in the phone with the cops. Stop your fake news

They didn't deputize

I think the did.. why would a cop tell the owner to go to the cop for help??

Except he wasn't caught running out of the house with a hammer.

I see a hammer in the video I post 1,000 pics of it.

Travis doesn't own squat so him saying stay out doesn't mean squat. The owner has to tell him, so he wasn't trespassing.

Well you aren’t a good neighbor.. I would tell them if I saw them in Marty’s House..

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]

Except for black people huh?

Who said that?

This is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.

Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?

Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with force

Forced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.

View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCE

"...IF the offense is a felony AND the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion"
What was the FELONY committed?

Open carry and accosting someone while openly armed are NOT the same things. Using a firearm as a means of coercion is not lawful anywhere that I know of.

And you do realize that this is just someone's opinion based on what they were told by the three individuals who are now the defendants in the case? The author of this document makes reference to "witness statements", this is what I was asking you for previously. So far I've only seen the incident report written by the police officer which is a narrative of what Gregory McMichael told him, but I've seen nothing from Travis who is the actual shooter, I wonder why they haven't published that one unless they think it might harm their case.



I don't recall at any point any one of them stating that they were in fear for their lives, have you?

You’re not living in reality the black man ran from a dwelling that did not belong to him after he was warned to stay off of the property by Travis... why should neighbors continue to see a house continually be trespassed on,, when he was caught he ran in what I believe will be a tool he stole from the property.. but you are right the police report doesn’t say much.. and I don’t think that bodes well for Arbery

Because there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and grabbing a shotgun, jumping in your truck along with your buddies, chasing down a "suspect", confronting him while armed with a shotgun is the WRONG way to go about resolving the issue.

They could have followed him and kept him in site until the police caught up with them. Why was this not a viable option?

And why are you referring to Arbery as "the black man" when you know his name?

I disagree,, the neighbors were all on high alert, to the point police told English to call McMichaels if it keeps happening. The guns are tool for protection, you can’t infringe on that.. sorry Arbery felt uncomfortable maybe he should have listed to Travis the last time he broke in

You disagree with what?

With what you wrote

You disagree that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things?

And you never responded when I asked previously what felony had been committed, please let me know if you find one.

I think they handled it the American way, we aren’t changing it because your feelings are hurt. And A dwelling occupied unoccupied or vacant if your intentions are to steal you are committing a felony under Georgia law and if you are caught you can B stop by citizens for citizens arrest... Read the ******* law I ******* gave it to you do you have any more ******* stupid questions

That's not the American way and why are you cursing at me?

And why do you think my feelings are hurt? This is the way you attempt to get to know someone?

 

[Jitss617]

Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]

Except for black people huh?

Who said that?

This is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.

Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?

Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with force

Forced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.

View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCE

"...IF the offense is a felony AND the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion"
What was the FELONY committed?

Open carry and accosting someone while openly armed are NOT the same things. Using a firearm as a means of coercion is not lawful anywhere that I know of.

And you do realize that this is just someone's opinion based on what they were told by the three individuals who are now the defendants in the case? The author of this document makes reference to "witness statements", this is what I was asking you for previously. So far I've only seen the incident report written by the police officer which is a narrative of what Gregory McMichael told him, but I've seen nothing from Travis who is the actual shooter, I wonder why they haven't published that one unless they think it might harm their case.



I don't recall at any point any one of them stating that they were in fear for their lives, have you?

You’re not living in reality the black man ran from a dwelling that did not belong to him after he was warned to stay off of the property by Travis... why should neighbors continue to see a house continually be trespassed on,, when he was caught he ran in what I believe will be a tool he stole from the property.. but you are right the police report doesn’t say much.. and I don’t think that bodes well for Arbery

Because there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and grabbing a shotgun, jumping in your truck along with your buddies, chasing down a "suspect", confronting him while armed with a shotgun is the WRONG way to go about resolving the issue.

They could have followed him and kept him in site until the police caught up with them. Why was this not a viable option?

And why are you referring to Arbery as "the black man" when you know his name?

I disagree,, the neighbors were all on high alert, to the point police told English to call McMichaels if it keeps happening. The guns are tool for protection, you can’t infringe on that.. sorry Arbery felt uncomfortable maybe he should have listed to Travis the last time he broke in

You disagree with what?

With what you wrote

You disagree that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things?

And you never responded when I asked previously what felony had been committed, please let me know if you find one.

I think they handled it the American way, we aren’t changing it because your feelings are hurt. And A dwelling occupied unoccupied or vacant if your intentions are to steal you are committing a felony under Georgia law and if you are caught you can B stop by citizens for citizens arrest... Read the ******* law I ******* gave it to you do you have any more ******* stupid questions

That's not the American way and why are you cursing at me?

And why do you think my feelings are hurt? This is the way you attempt to get to know someone?

Any more questions?

 

[Serioususername]

Wtf do you see a murder? Lol a murder has to be premeditated.. they are in the phone with the cops. Stop your fake news

Fine, they manslaughter'd him, the point is they unlawfully ended his life. Stop trying to split hairs for edge points.

I think the did.. why would a cop tell the owner to go to the cop for help??

Because their a bunch of dumbshit good ol' boys who are friends. You're not freaking magically granted police authority because an Officer tells people to talk to you. You're granted Police Authority when you're an officer...which neither were. One was retired, but retired pilots don't just walk onto an Airforce base and hop in an F-16 either.

I see a hammer in the video I post 1,000 pics of it.

A hammer where? when? I haven't seen the picture. And I know the owner said nothing was stolen.

Well you aren’t a good neighbor.. I would tell them if I saw them in Marty’s House..

It doesn't matter, Travis telling him to stay out doesn't meet the criteria for it to be considered trespassing.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Any more questions?

Yep, what felony was comittted?

 

[texmaster]

And for God's sake learn the law.

I did and posted this earlier.


in OCGA 16-5-20?

A person commits the offense of simple assault when he or she either: or

1. Commits an act which places another in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

Which means nothing if you don't cite what was on video that meets that criteria and you still haven't.

What circumstances transform simple assault into aggravated assault?

The presence of any one of the following conditions will make assault aggravated:

2. Use of deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury.

which NEVER happened until they were attacked. I see you are still running away from citing any actual examples from the video that support you.

Actual injury is not required. Mere possibility that serious injury would result from the use of deadly weapon, object, device, or instrument is enough. The “deadly” nature or character of a weapon is determined by the jury. Any “object, device, or instrument” that has the potential of being used offensively against a person can be considered an instrument of aggression.”

Still quoting the law without being able to cite what actions we see on the video that support your lie here. And the saga continues.

I don’t believe an argument can be made that two white men displaying deadly weapons and a third white man using his car to block and detain an unarmed black man jogging down a street did not place the jogger in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

Ah more ignorance of the laws in Georgia. Let me break it down for you.

#1 Displaying weapons in Georgia is LEGAL. Its called open carry. At least try to pretend you've read up on the law.

#2
de•tain dĭ-tān′
►

• transitive verb
  To keep from proceeding; delay or retard.
• transitive verb
  To keep in custody or confinement.
• transitive verb
  To retain or withhold (payment or property, for example).

Do you see that chuckles? At no time did either man impede this thief from continuing on his way. He went around the car with multiple directions wide open to him including straight ahead with no one approaching him whatsoever. And what did he do? He attacked which actually IS aggravated assault by the thief. So spin me another line of BS that he could possibly be in fear for his life knowing the law and the facts. Go ahead. Dance for us.

#3 thinking your argument is improving by identifying the race of the two men only proves you're a racist.

Standing in the road with a shotgun as shown below fits the definition of aggravated assault in Georgia Law.

100% lie and I challenge you to cite the part of the law that states standing in the road armed is the definition of aggravated assault.

If you are just going to outright lie about the law this is going to be even easier than it already is.

and the gunmen cannot claim self defense when they are in the act of committing a felony,

LOL You don't even know what a felony is much less claim they committed one.

Having a weapon in the open is LEGAL in Georgia. Its only aggravated assault if its used in an offensive way which was never done until he attacked them.

Go ahead, show us any part of the video where they raised their weapons at him before your thief attacked.

Let's see it since you love your screenshots so much.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Greg McMichael as a former policeman had been appointed by the police as the point man or the man to go to regarding all the reports of trespassing at the home under construction....thus he had official sanction to be involved and thus your accusation he was taking the law into his own hands is ridiculous.

Even without his status as a former policeman and being officially tagged as the go to man in this case, just as a private citizen if one has reason to believe there is a criminal running down the street and in fact yo see him with your own eyes in front of your house it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect in order to help the police apprehend the suspect.

It’s true the act of continually going into that house was a provocative act,, Arbery was told not to go ! Our neighbors supposed to sit there and be terrorized? They followed him until the cops came, he got shot

This is the first I'm hearing of the property owner telling Arbery not to go into the house. When did that happen? Because if anyone ELSE told him not to(besides the police maybe) it doesn't matter because they have about as much authority as my left toe. He didn't steal anything, no one SAW him steal anything, and because the two people involved in his death didn't see him steal anything they had no right to try and Citizens arrest him.

They should go to jail.

Greg McMichael as a former policeman had been appointed by the police as the point man or the man to go to regarding all the reports of trespassing at the home under construction....thus he had official sanction to be involved and thus your accusation he was taking the law into his own hands is ridiculous.

Even without his status as a former policeman and being officially tagged as the go to man in this case, just as a private citizen if one has reason to believe there is a criminal running down the street and in fact yo see him with your own eyes in front of your house it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect in order to help the police apprehend the suspect.

Holy God that is not how life works, you don't get to be "Appointed go to man" and then get to do what you want outside of the law. That shit is likely illegal as all hell, but the main point is it doesn't matter if the police made him a Point of Contact because he's a NORMAL CITIZEN and has NO AUTHORITY to detain anyone unless he meets the criteria for a citizens arrest.

Until someone can prove Aubery committed a crime what the Dad and Son did is the only crime here. Because the rules of a Citizens arrest require you are aware of/have directly witnessed said crime. Trespassing? Only if the owner told him to stay away from his under construction home. Stealing? The Homeowner already said nothing was stolen and I've not seen any police report saying stolen property was recovered.

Go directly to jail.

You seem unaware that no citizens arrest was even made. Arguments can be made till the cows come home regarding whether or not they had a legal right to make a citizens arrest.

Greg McMichaels...the father did say or at least was reported as saying they "intended to make a Citizens Arrest" yet no such arrest was made. That is something that is being used by the leftwingers to divert attention from the truth of this case.


arrest

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ar·rest
(ə-rĕst′)
v. ar·rest·ed, ar·rest·ing, ar·rests
v.tr.

To seize and hold under the authority of law.
To capture and hold briefly
n.
The act of detaining in legal custody: the arrest of a criminal suspect. The state of being so detained: a suspect under arrest.

The point is they were trying to make a citizens arrest, by his own words, and in the process the murdered him. So far as we know at the moment. If they weren't trying to make a citizens arrest they should have stayed in the house, and they shouldn't have been trying to do that in the first place. So they should have stayed in the house ANYWAY.

Quote....there is no law against trying to make a citizens arrest....but they did not even try. The most they can be accused of is trying to talk to the suspect. No law against that either. So you are barking up the wrong tree.

The property owner was telling neighbors ppl were entering his property, he got a camera, he told the police Because the police deputized McMichaels as a neighborhood watch.. Get informed before you post

They didn't deputize him at all, where are you GETTING this stuff. I've read some officer told somebody that the dad is someone you can contact to deal with this or something. Which isn't deputizing him. Do you have a link that I can read this nonesense from? Anyway

seriously? Why was he caught running out of the house with a hammer?

Except he wasn't caught running out of the house with a hammer. No video shows him stealing anything from the house or leaving the house with anything.

And go in to a house Travis told him it wise to stay out of?? Then run like you stole something? Lol

Travis doesn't own squat so him saying stay out doesn't mean squat. The owner has to tell him, so he wasn't trespassing.

 

[Jitss617]

Fine, they manslaughter'd him, the point is they unlawfully ended his life. Stop trying to split hairs for edge points.

I can’t give you manslaughter, because he didn’t have a opinion, it was self defense, the boy Committed suicide

Because their a bunch of dumbshit good ol' boys who are friends. You're not freaking magically granted police authority because an Officer tells people to talk to you. You're granted Police Authority when you're an officer...which neither were. One was retired, but retired pilots don't just walk onto an Airforce base and hop in an F-16 either.

but it’s going to sound good in court lol hehe

A hammer where? when? I haven't seen the picture. And I know the owner said nothing was stolen.

the equipment belonged to the construction workers not the home owner.

It doesn't matter, Travis telling him to stay out doesn't meet the criteria for it to be considered trespassing.

Doesn’t matter, they just followed him until the cops came, but Arbery attacked Travis .. game over

 

[Jitss617]

Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]

Except for black people huh?

Who said that?

This is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.

Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?

Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with force

Forced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.

View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCE

"...IF the offense is a felony AND the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion"
What was the FELONY committed?

Open carry and accosting someone while openly armed are NOT the same things. Using a firearm as a means of coercion is not lawful anywhere that I know of.

And you do realize that this is just someone's opinion based on what they were told by the three individuals who are now the defendants in the case? The author of this document makes reference to "witness statements", this is what I was asking you for previously. So far I've only seen the incident report written by the police officer which is a narrative of what Gregory McMichael told him, but I've seen nothing from Travis who is the actual shooter, I wonder why they haven't published that one unless they think it might harm their case.



I don't recall at any point any one of them stating that they were in fear for their lives, have you?

You’re not living in reality the black man ran from a dwelling that did not belong to him after he was warned to stay off of the property by Travis... why should neighbors continue to see a house continually be trespassed on,, when he was caught he ran in what I believe will be a tool he stole from the property.. but you are right the police report doesn’t say much.. and I don’t think that bodes well for Arbery

Because there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and grabbing a shotgun, jumping in your truck along with your buddies, chasing down a "suspect", confronting him while armed with a shotgun is the WRONG way to go about resolving the issue.

They could have followed him and kept him in site until the police caught up with them. Why was this not a viable option?

And why are you referring to Arbery as "the black man" when you know his name?

I disagree,, the neighbors were all on high alert, to the point police told English to call McMichaels if it keeps happening. The guns are tool for protection, you can’t infringe on that.. sorry Arbery felt uncomfortable maybe he should have listed to Travis the last time he broke in

You disagree with what?

With what you wrote

You disagree that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things?

And you never responded when I asked previously what felony had been committed, please let me know if you find one.

I think they handled it the American way, we aren’t changing it because your feelings are hurt. And A dwelling occupied unoccupied or vacant if your intentions are to steal you are committing a felony under Georgia law and if you are caught you can B stop by citizens for citizens arrest... Read the ******* law I ******* gave it to you do you have any more ******* stupid questions

That's not the American way and why are you cursing at me?

And why do you think my feelings are hurt? This is the way you attempt to get to know someone?

Any more questions?

Yep, what felony was comittted?

Entering a dwelling with the intent to steal

 

[Polishprince]

What this case is all about is a case of justified homicide, as determined by at least 2 teams of law enforcement specialists. And then, an edited video goes online and viral. Libs get enraged, around the world, politicians order the shooters indicted even though experts had already determined it to be a Good Shooting.

Now, there will be a trial, and like the Zimmerman case, Fred Gay case in Baltimore, and so many others, the accused will be found Innocent as New Born Babes. Libs will get enraged again, they may or may not schedule a riot to teach the people of Brunswick something.

 

[texmaster]

What this case is all about is a case of justified homicide, as determined by at least 2 teams of law enforcement specialists. And then, an edited video goes online and viral. Libs get enraged, around the world, politicians order the shooters indicted even though experts had already determined it to be a Good Shooting.

Now, there will be a trial, and like the Zimmerman case, Fred Gay case in Baltimore, and so many others, the accused will be found Innocent as New Born Babes. Libs will get enraged again, they may or may not schedule a riot to teach the people of Brunswick something.

Exactly. It boils down to what happened in the video. I do love the liberals obsession with what they believed happened off camera and pretending things we can't prove happened make this thief's aggravated assault on McMichaels justified when they can't point to a single thing on the video where the law states it justified this thug to be in fear for his life.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Greg McMichael as a former policeman had been appointed by the police as the point man or the man to go to regarding all the reports of trespassing at the home under construction....thus he had official sanction to be involved and thus your accusation he was taking the law into his own hands is ridiculous.

Even without his status as a former policeman and being officially tagged as the go to man in this case, just as a private citizen if one has reason to believe there is a criminal running down the street and in fact yo see him with your own eyes in front of your house it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect in order to help the police apprehend the suspect.

It’s true the act of continually going into that house was a provocative act,, Arbery was told not to go ! Our neighbors supposed to sit there and be terrorized? They followed him until the cops came, he got shot

This is the first I'm hearing of the property owner telling Arbery not to go into the house. When did that happen? Because if anyone ELSE told him not to(besides the police maybe) it doesn't matter because they have about as much authority as my left toe. He didn't steal anything, no one SAW him steal anything, and because the two people involved in his death didn't see him steal anything they had no right to try and Citizens arrest him.

They should go to jail.

Greg McMichael as a former policeman had been appointed by the police as the point man or the man to go to regarding all the reports of trespassing at the home under construction....thus he had official sanction to be involved and thus your accusation he was taking the law into his own hands is ridiculous.

Even without his status as a former policeman and being officially tagged as the go to man in this case, just as a private citizen if one has reason to believe there is a criminal running down the street and in fact yo see him with your own eyes in front of your house it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect in order to help the police apprehend the suspect.

Holy God that is not how life works, you don't get to be "Appointed go to man" and then get to do what you want outside of the law. That shit is likely illegal as all hell, but the main point is it doesn't matter if the police made him a Point of Contact because he's a NORMAL CITIZEN and has NO AUTHORITY to detain anyone unless he meets the criteria for a citizens arrest.

Until someone can prove Aubery committed a crime what the Dad and Son did is the only crime here. Because the rules of a Citizens arrest require you are aware of/have directly witnessed said crime. Trespassing? Only if the owner told him to stay away from his under construction home. Stealing? The Homeowner already said nothing was stolen and I've not seen any police report saying stolen property was recovered.

Go directly to jail.

You seem unaware that no citizens arrest was even made. Arguments can be made till the cows come home regarding whether or not they had a legal right to make a citizens arrest.

Greg McMichaels...the father did say or at least was reported as saying they "intended to make a Citizens Arrest" yet no such arrest was made. That is something that is being used by the leftwingers to divert attention from the truth of this case.


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The point is they were trying to make a citizens arrest, by his own words, and in the process the murdered him. So far as we know at the moment. If they weren't trying to make a citizens arrest they should have stayed in the house, and they shouldn't have been trying to do that in the first place. So they should have stayed in the house ANYWAY.

Quote....there is no law against trying to make a citizens arrest....but they did not even try. The most they can be accused of is trying to talk to the suspect. No law against that either. So you are barking up the wrong tree.

The property owner was telling neighbors ppl were entering his property, he got a camera, he told the police Because the police deputized McMichaels as a neighborhood watch.. Get informed before you post

They didn't deputize him at all, where are you GETTING this stuff. I've read some officer told somebody that the dad is someone you can contact to deal with this or something. Which isn't deputizing him. Do you have a link that I can read this nonesense from? Anyway

seriously? Why was he caught running out of the house with a hammer?

Except he wasn't caught running out of the house with a hammer. No video shows him stealing anything from the house or leaving the house with anything.

And go in to a house Travis told him it wise to stay out of?? Then run like you stole something? Lol

Travis doesn't own squat so him saying stay out doesn't mean squat. The owner has to tell him, so he wasn't trespassing.

The problem with your reasoning is that it is not pertinent to this case. It does not matter whether the black mental case stole anything or not. It is documented on video that he assaulted Travis McMichaels....do you think any white juror will not be able to see that?

That is all the defense team has to do really, just show the video. Tell the jurors watch the video, watch the video. The video tells the story.

Nothing that happened and specifically nothing that happened to Ahmaud(sounds muslim) that justified him to assault Travis.

Yet on here many are trying to comp;licate the case. Just to have something to argue about. Look folks this is a very simple case.

Did the black criminal with a history of crime and mental illness assault Travis McMichaels who is white with no record of criminal activity, no record of ever being arrested for anything, no record of mental illness whatsoever.

All the defense team has to do is convince the jury that beyond a reasonable doubt that occurred and thus that Travis a upstanding, decent white man was legally justified to use lethal force to save his life and or prevent grievious bodily injury.

A no brainer.....but these tired old circular arguments we are seeing on here are a waste of board space.

There is no white jury in their right mind that will send two innocent white men to jail just because the media thinks they should.
Now there is a possibility of there being a hung jury if there are too many blacks on the jury and one would be too many since they let their bias interfere with sound judgement.

Blacks are notorious for making poor jurors.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

What this case is all about is a case of justified homicide, as determined by at least 2 teams of law enforcement specialists. And then, an edited video goes online and viral. Libs get enraged, around the world, politicians order the shooters indicted even though experts had already determined it to be a Good Shooting.

Now, there will be a trial, and like the Zimmerman case, Fred Gay case in Baltimore, and so many others, the accused will be found Innocent as New Born Babes. Libs will get enraged again, they may or may not schedule a riot to teach the people of Brunswick something.

Exactly. It boils down to what happened in the video. I do love the liberals obsession with what they believed happened off camera and pretending things we can't prove happened make this thief's aggravated assault on McMichaels justified when they can't point to a single thing on the video where the law states it justified this thug to be in fear for his life.

Exactly....if he had been in fear of his life he would not have kept running towards the truck and the white men who were parked far ahead of him....he could have run in a hundred different directions.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

What this case is all about is a case of justified homicide, as determined by at least 2 teams of law enforcement specialists. And then, an edited video goes online and viral. Libs get enraged, around the world, politicians order the shooters indicted even though experts had already determined it to be a Good Shooting.

Now, there will be a trial, and like the Zimmerman case, Fred Gay case in Baltimore, and so many others, the accused will be found Innocent as New Born Babes. Libs will get enraged again, they may or may not schedule a riot to teach the people of Brunswick something.

If they riot and burn down Atlanta....that would not be much of a loss anyhow.... MOSTLY BLACK TOWN.