Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house

Home owner claims to have installed cameras because things kept going missing including copper piping. These cameras caught Arbery numerous times inside his house. Many times at night. You know, when he was jogging. pic.twitter.com/o8t7R6hEiF

Theft from construction sites is a big problem nationwide.


Ahmaud was a documented thief. Thieves steal and they are constantly looking for something to steal.

His taking off running immediately upon hearing the neighbor call the police is very incriminating.

Not something a innocent person would do.
LOL

You still possess zero evidence he stole anything, or intended to steal anything, from that construction site.
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His intentions were to steal
Until he was caught
So you say, but you're a nut who can't stop lying.

Tell me again how you saw a flying hammer. :lmao:
So was he provoking neighbors who confronted him earlier?
 
The lessons learned - Never do police work as civilian's, unless your life is immediately threatened or your family members life is immediately threatened, where self defense is definitely warranted, and this would only be the case if an aggressive person is intent on causing physical harm to you your family member or to an innocent civilian or to one of your friends.

Burglaries are police work most all of the time, and it is not for civilians except for reporting the incident to police after the fact, to then go and attempt to apprehend a possible burglar while out in the street.... It is police work... Only or unless tresspass is observed by the property owner while on site, does immediate action (not lethal action unless attacked), is to be taken by the property owner, otherwise to order the person off of the property or to make a citizens arrest if nessesary while the perp is still on the property... That is legal under the castle doctrine right ???..

If ones property is being burglarized, and you take action (not lethal unless attacked), and you do so immediately before the assailant leaves the scene of the crime, then great... That's legal right ??... Maybe just call the law and let them handle it in all cases if possible, otherwise if the person had already left the property, and was heading down the street just let the law handle it.

Yes, keep locational information as to his where abouts for the police, but stay at a safe distance until the police arrive on scene. The perp could be armed as well, so always remember that one folks.

Lessons learned - Was Arbery a criminal ? If so, then thinking about a career in criminal behavior was a bad move, so always be aware that it is a very dangerous field to be in folks. If Arbery did fit the bill, then his occupation was a very dangerous one to be in as was proven for him, and it ultimately cost him his life sadly enough, and it also dragged some innocent folks into the fire with him.

Now people could very well be right in their anaylisis, where as the three or was it just the two(?) who wanted to maybe "talk" to Arbery about the alledged burglary scene got way more than they expected, where as when they attempted to talk to him, and maybe even stop him to talk, then he very well could have become enraged to the point of "you ain't taking me alive", and that might have been his thoughts filled with guilt due a criminal past maybe. If so then of course he could have very well lunged for TMs gun in hopes to turn the tide in his favor before apprehended by whomever it was trying to stop him for his alledged guilty criminal acts.

He would have done this (if guilty minded) because he knew what they wanted, and he knew what he had intended on doing at the property, even though nothing was available to steal at the property if that was his intent. If so, then it set into motion a bad chain of events where some very bad mistakes were made on everyone's part that was involved.

Like I said before, what a mess. Good grief.

So was Arbery a burglar or not ????? After that being found to be the case if he was, then maybe the trial might be leniant on the two who might have botched their attempt to investigate Arbery while on the run.

Was Arbery just an innocent Jogger, and if so, does he have character references that can attest to his advid jogging life, along with his house full of excersize equipment, jogging outfits, bikes, and other such identifying qualities that will lend itself as evidence to these things in which people are trying to profile him as ??

Alot of investigation still left to do for sure.

Hopefully justice will prevail in the case, and the truth will be told.
 
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And what right did McMichaels have to chase and corner Arbery? McMichaels and Bryan don’t own the property. They didn’t know why Arbery was there. They assumed he was stealing stuff but that wasn’t the case was it?

Oh for God's sake stop lying about what happened. They never chased him. He ran to them. Watch the tape. And neither man even moved towards him so how could they cut him off? Telekinesis?

The McMichaels had other options didn’t they? They could have followed him until the police arrived. They could have recorded Arbery on their phones. That would be reasonable. That didn’t happen. According to the police, McMichaels and Bryan chased and cornered Arbery. Then the McMichaels got out of the truck with a loaded firearm to clearly confront Arbery. That’s not reasonable. They aren’t the police so that’s not their job.

Clearly you haven't read the law because owning a firearm and possessing it in Georgia isn't against the law no matter how much you want it to be.

They showed complete disregard for Arberys rights

HAHAHAHAHAHA


They endangered the public safety by attempting to apprehend someone with zero evidence of wrongdoing, discharged a firearm in a residential neighborhood and in the process killed a man who in fact was unarmed and stole NOTHING. This is why we have innocent until proven guilty and not what McMichaels and Bryan gave Arbery which is guilty until proven innocent.
The McMichaels and Bryan violated arbery’s basic right to the presumption of innocence.

To attempt to apprehend someone you have to move towards them. Watch the video for God's sake because that never happened.

Your thief attacked the man who was armed and got exactly what he deserved.

For God's sake educate yourself before you go on another emotional tirade of idiocy.


This is a sick pathological lie:

“ Your thief attacked the man who was armed and got exactly what he deserved.”

The video clearly shows TM #1 to the left of center attempting to obstruct AA’s path. So the jogger swerves to the right to avoid TM.

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AA #2 gets around the front of the truck and lo and behold TM mysteriously without moving from his position #1 is once again in a position to block at close range.

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Within a few tenths of a second from #2 the first shot is fired simultaneously with seein TM’s white hat and the shadows of both men under the truck.

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TM attacked AA by running from frame #1 to frame #2

It’s recorded on the video and it’s clear that the “grabbing the gun” scene is after the first shot was fired before the two men came into full view struggling for the shotgun.
 
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Even if this is true,, he had every right to shot someone attacking him.

He fired one shot that may have wounded AA on the wrist and you are saying an unarmed black man being fired upon from six feet away has no right to try to disarm the White man who just approached and fired a deadly weapon at him.

Does the white man get two free shots to kill an unarmed black man before an unarmed black man can attempt to fight back.

That’s a pretty big rule in favor of white privilege you got there.
 
Even if this is true,, he had every right to shot someone attacking him.

He fired one shot that may have wounded AA on the wrist and you are saying an unarmed black man being fired upon from six feet away has no right to try to disarm the White man who just approached and fired a deadly weapon at him.

Does the white man get two free shots to kill an unarmed black man before an unarmed black man can attempt to fight back.

That’s a pretty big rule in favor of white privilege you got there.
Lol your stories are funny
 
Even if this is true,, he had every right to shot someone attacking him.

He fired one shot that may have wounded AA on the wrist and you are saying an unarmed black man being fired upon from six feet away has no right to try to disarm the White man who just approached and fired a deadly weapon at him.

Does the white man get two free shots to kill an unarmed black man before an unarmed black man can attempt to fight back.

That’s a pretty big rule in favor of white privilege you got there.
Lol your stories are funny

At least my stories are backed up by the video. It won’t be so funny when TM and GM are trying to explain to the jury why TM ran to the front of the truck to confront the jogger up close when the gun was fired the first time.

Remember it was AA who swerved to the right to avoid TM. Your story is he avoided contact with TM to run around the truck and in about a second and a half he decided to commit suicide by a rushing all the way to the left side of the road because he wanted to steal the shotgun.

Because that’s what black men do.

You people are idiots
 
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Even if this is true,, he had every right to shot someone attacking him.

He fired one shot that may have wounded AA on the wrist and you are saying an unarmed black man being fired upon from six feet away has no right to try to disarm the White man who just approached and fired a deadly weapon at him.

Does the white man get two free shots to kill an unarmed black man before an unarmed black man can attempt to fight back.

That’s a pretty big rule in favor of white privilege you got there.
Lol your stories are funny

At least my stories are backed up by the video. It won’t be so funny when TM and GM are trying to explain to the jury why TM ran to the front of the truck to confront the jogger up close when the gun was fired the first time.
Lol if the DA attempts that funny story you just wrote he will be the Laughingstock Of the country haha
 
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Even if this is true,, he had every right to shot someone attacking him.

He fired one shot that may have wounded AA on the wrist and you are saying an unarmed black man being fired upon from six feet away has no right to try to disarm the White man who just approached and fired a deadly weapon at him.

Does the white man get two free shots to kill an unarmed black man before an unarmed black man can attempt to fight back.

That’s a pretty big rule in favor of white privilege you got there.
Lol your stories are funny

At least my stories are backed up by the video. It won’t be so funny when TM and GM are trying to explain to the jury why TM ran to the front of the truck to confront the jogger up close when the gun was fired the first time.
Lol if the DA attempts that funny story you just wrote he will be the Laughingstock laughingstockof the country haha

Without a doubt. Funny how blacks are so ridicuously stupid.
 
The lessons learned - Never do police work as civilian's, unless your life is immediately threatened or your family members life is immediately threatened, where self defense is definitely warranted, and this would only be the case if an aggressive person is intent on causing physical harm to you your family member or to an innocent civilian or to one of your friends.

Burglaries are police work most all of the time, and it is not for civilians except for reporting the incident to police after the fact, to then go and attempt to apprehend a possible burglar while out in the street.... It is police work... Only or unless tresspass is observed by the property owner while on site, does immediate action (not lethal action unless attacked), is to be taken by the property owner, otherwise to order the person off of the property or to make a citizens arrest if nessesary while the perp is still on the property... That is legal under the castle doctrine right ???..

If ones property is being burglarized, and you take action (not lethal unless attacked), and you do so immediately before the assailant leaves the scene of the crime, then great... That's legal right ??... Maybe just call the law and let them handle it in all cases if possible, otherwise if the person had already left the property, and was heading down the street just let the law handle it.

Yes, keep locational information as to his where abouts for the police, but stay at a safe distance until the police arrive on scene. The perp could be armed as well, so always remember that one folks.

Lessons learned - Was Arbery a criminal ? If so, then thinking about a career in criminal behavior was a bad move, so always be aware that it is a very dangerous field to be in folks. If Arbery did fit the bill, then his occupation was a very dangerous one to be in as was proven for him, and it ultimately cost him his life sadly enough, and it also dragged some innocent folks into the fire with him.

Now people could very well be right in their anaylisis, where as the three or was it just the two(?) who wanted to maybe "talk" to Arbery about the alledged burglary scene got way more than they expected, where as when they attempted to talk to him, and maybe even stop him to talk, then he very well could have become enraged to the point of "you ain't taking me alive", and that might have been his thoughts filled with guilt due a criminal past maybe. If so then of course he could have very well lunged for TMs gun in hopes to turn the tide in his favor before apprehended by whomever it was trying to stop him for his alledged guilty criminal acts.

He would have done this (if guilty minded) because he knew what they wanted, and he knew what he had intended on doing at the property, even though nothing was available to steal at the property if that was his intent. If so, then it set into motion a bad chain of events where some very bad mistakes were made on everyone's part that was involved.

Like I said before, what a mess. Good grief.

So was Arbery a burglar or not ????? After that being found to be the case if he was, then maybe the trial might be leniant on the two who might have botched their attempt to investigate Arbery while on the run.

Was Arbery just an innocent Jogger, and if so, does he have character references that can attest to his advid jogging life, along with his house full of excersize equipment, jogging outfits, bikes, and other such identifying qualities that will lend itself as evidence to these things in which people are trying to profile him as ??I

Alot of investigation still left to do for sure.

Hopefully justice will prevail in the case, and the truth will be told.

You are needlessly over complicating a very simple case. Again....people can argue all day and all night about the tresspasing burglary etc.

None of that is important to this case.

in truth it is a vey simple case....and one that has been explained very well on here many times. There are even videos posted that explain it very well. You should look at some of them.

Anyhow this case comes down to one simple thing; did ahmaud arberry assault Travis McMichaels.

I think it will be exceedingly easy for the defense team to convince the white jurors that is exactly what happened simply because there is a video that shows awmaud doing exactly that.

Now some on here want to ignore the video, pretend like it does not exist. Then there are those who claim they have watched it but seem not to see what it clearly shows.

I would assume due to their bias but perhaps vision problems or cognitive problems may also play a role in their inability to see what really happened.



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Travis McMichael stands a relatively decent nchance of being awarded the death penalty. Gregory McMichael could spend the rest of his life in prison, especially if the Feds decide this is a hate crime. The dumbfuck who shot the video probably rues the day he ever met Travis and Gregory McMichael.

I'm not really interested in arguing this unless someone new comes along, as those defending the McMichael boys are either racist or retarded.

The verdict will affirm their guilt...
 
Travis McMichael stands a relatively decent nchance of being awarded the death penalty. Gregory McMichael could spend the rest of his life in prison, especially if the Feds decide this is a hate crime. The dumbfuck who shot the video probably rues the day he ever met Travis and Gregory McMichael.

I'm not really interested in arguing this unless someone new comes along, as those defending the McMichael boys are either racist or retarded.

The verdict will affirm their guilt...
You are off your rocker. We all know how this one is going to go, just like we knew how all the other ones were going to go. Travis and Zimmerman will be doing an autograph signing tour by this time next year.
 
One thing this country don't need, and that is to revert back to the days of racism either being implemented by White's or Black's.

Time to grow up America.

Quit letting yourself be manipulated by forces that have not the countries well being in their souls, but instead they have nothing but hate and darkness in their souls.

Revert back to Christ and his message America, and if so we will do nothing else but move forward in life.... Anything else is just defeatism and every other kind of ism that there is.
 
Travis McMichael stands a relatively decent nchance of being awarded the death penalty. Gregory McMichael could spend the rest of his life in prison, especially if the Feds decide this is a hate crime. The dumbfuck who shot the video probably rues the day he ever met Travis and Gregory McMichael.

I'm not really interested in arguing this unless someone new comes along, as those defending the McMichael boys are either racist or retarded.

The verdict will affirm their guilt...
Stop grand stands on this blacks kids death, we know you hate these proud Americans. They scare you. Get over it.
 
Anyhow this case comes down to one simple thing; did ahmaud arberry assault Travis McMichaels.

Your racist fantasy has four major hurdles that no fantasy can get over.

#1 The prosecution has a low bar to convince a jury that during the minute or two before the actual termination of his life young unarmed Arbery was in a state of mind fearful that three armed white men were going to do harm to his person. The 40 second video is the literal definition of stalking, blocking setting a trap and the armed attempt to stop and detain a jogger. Arbery’s criminal record and what he did for a few minutes on private property has no bearing whether simple assault was committed or not. Simple assault is determined by the fear three armed white men put into the mind of an unarmed black jogger when they confronted and tried to detain.

Then in Georgia simple assault becomes the felony called aggravated assault automatically when a deadly weapon is used in the assault. The video confirms deadly weapons were used.

If the victim is killed due to the aggravated assault the charge of murder during the commission of a felony is automatic as well.
There is no dispute that Arbery was shot dead during an aggravated assault on his person.

#2 There is no opportunity for self defense when a victim is killed by a person or persons who are engaged in a felony such as aggravated assault.

#3 The video shows the fact that TravisM moved from an armed blocking position left of the rear wheel of the truck to a new blocking position in the front of the truck to obstruct Arbery’s ability to run past the truck and be on his way. And the first shot was fired from that blocking position.

#4 The part in the video where Arbery is grabbing the shotgun and punching his assailant is AFTER the first shot was fired when both men were mostly hidden from the camera’s view.

TravisM needed to stay a safe distance from the jogger’s Intended path to have a slim chance at self defense while committing a felony. But when he crossed that double yellow line and got too close to his victim and the gun goes off, it’s over for self defense, it’s done.
 
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One thing this country don't need, and that is to revert back to the days of racism either being implemented by White's or Black's.

Time to grow up America.

Quit letting yourself be manipulated by forces that have not the countries well being in their souls, but instead they have nothing but hate and darkness in their souls.

Revert back to Christ and his message America, and if so we will do nothing else but move forward in life.... Anything else is just defeatism and every other kind of ism that there is.

One thing this country don't need, and that is to revert back to the days of racism either being implemented by White's or Black's.

Time to grow up America.

Quit letting yourself be manipulated by forces that have not the countries well being in their souls, but instead they have nothing but hate and darkness in their souls.

Revert back to Christ and his message America, and if so we will do nothing else but move forward in life.... Anything else is just defeatism and every other kind of ism that there is.

I think you mean well but you are very confused.

Not knowing who the enemy is which is absolugtely vital in this struggle for the heart and soul of America.

The first maxim of war is to know your enemy and make no mistake we are at war with the forces of darkness and when i say 'we' i mean all those that truly love America.
 
One thing this country don't need, and that is to revert back to the days of racism either being implemented by White's or Black's.

Time to grow up America.

Quit letting yourself be manipulated by forces that have not the countries well being in their souls, but instead they have nothing but hate and darkness in their souls.

Revert back to Christ and his message America, and if so we will do nothing else but move forward in life.... Anything else is just defeatism and every other kind of ism that there is.
As long as this country is divided by culture we are always going to have race issues as long as we have Democrats grandstanding We will have Race issues. Blacks are being told they will get reparations if they continue to complain.. democrats are the problem
 
Travis McMichael stands a relatively decent nchance of being awarded the death penalty. Gregory McMichael could spend the rest of his life in prison, especially if the Feds decide this is a hate crime. The dumbfuck who shot the video probably rues the day he ever met Travis and Gregory McMichael.

I'm not really interested in arguing this unless someone new comes along, as those defending the McMichael boys are either racist or retarded.

The verdict will affirm their guilt...
You are off your rocker. We all know how this one is going to go, just like we knew how all the other ones were going to go. Travis and Zimmerman will be doing an autograph signing tour by this time next year.
Revert back to Christ

I’m not sure more white evangelical Christian Trump supporters are what is needed to rid our country of the openly racist posters on this message board.

Simple appreciation for equal justice under the law and respect for and strict adherence to the facts in this case will bring the best outcome for secular Americans as well as those Americans of all the worlds religions.
 
One thing this country don't need, and that is to revert back to the days of racism either being implemented by White's or Black's.

Time to grow up America.

Quit letting yourself be manipulated by forces that have not the countries well being in their souls, but instead they have nothing but hate and darkness in their souls.

Revert back to Christ and his message America, and if so we will do nothing else but move forward in life.... Anything else is just defeatism and every other kind of ism that there is.
As long as this country is divided by culture we are always going to have race issues as long as we have Democrats grandstanding We will have Race issues. Blacks are being told they will get reparations if they continue to complain.. democrats are the problem

But whites proclaiming that "most black criminals have AIDS" and "blacks are stupid" aren't part of the problem?

You're a shining example of racism as it exists in this country...
 
Travis McMichael stands a relatively decent nchance of being awarded the death penalty. Gregory McMichael could spend the rest of his life in prison, especially if the Feds decide this is a hate crime. The dumbfuck who shot the video probably rues the day he ever met Travis and Gregory McMichael.

I'm not really interested in arguing this unless someone new comes along, as those defending the McMichael boys are either racist or retarded.

The verdict will affirm their guilt...
You are off your rocker. We all know how this one is going to go, just like we knew how all the other ones were going to go. Travis and Zimmerman will be doing an autograph signing tour by this time next year.
Revert back to Christ

I’m not sure more white evangelical Christian Trump supporters are what is needed to rid our country of the openly racist posters on this message board.

Simple appreciation for equal justice under the law and respect for and strict adherence to the facts in this case will bring the best outcome for secular Americans as well as those Americans of all the worlds religions.
Why do these type of white men bother you?
 
Anyhow this case comes down to one simple thing; did ahmaud arberry assault Travis McMichaels.

Your racist fantasy has four major hurdles that no fantasy can get over.

#1 The prosecution has a low bar to convince a jury that during the minute or two before the actual termination of his life young unarmed Arbery was in a state of mind fearful that three armed white men were going to do harm to his person. The 40 second video is the literal definition of stalking, blocking setting a trap and the armed attempt to stop and detain a jogger. Arbery’s criminal record and what he did for a few minutes on private property has no bearing whether simple assault was committed or not. Simple assault is determined by the fear three armed white men put into the mind of an unarmed black jogger when they confronted and tried to detain.

Then in Georgia simple assault becomes the felony called aggravated assault automatically when a deadly weapon is used in the assault. The video confirms deadly weapons were used.

If the victim is killed due to the aggravated assault the charge of murder during the commission of a felony is automatic as well.
There is no dispute that Arbery was shot dead during an aggravated assault on his person.

#2 There is no opportunity for self defense when a victim is killed by a person or persons who are engaged in a felony such as aggravated assault.

#3 The video shows the fact that TravisM moved from an armed blocking position left of the rear wheel of the truck to a new blocking position in the front of the truck to obstruct Arbery’s ability to run past the truck and be on his way. And the first shot was fired from that blocking position.

#4 The part in the video where Arbery is grabbing the shotgun and punching his assailant is AFTER the first shot was fired when both men were mostly hidden from the camera’s view.


TravisM needed to stay a safe distance from the jogger’s Intended path to have a slim chance at self defense while committing a felony. But when he crossed that double yellow line and got too close to his victim and the gun goes off, it’s over for self defense, it’s done.

Again...just incredible stupidity you put on display.

Does not even deserve a reply and it violates one of my long standing rules....never try to communicate with an African so called American as in they are just tooooo stupid to reason with.

yet....since i have a little bit of time to waste tonight, first of all you have it ass backwards and I think I explained it to you already...but this commentary i am making now is directed more at others than you....the state has no case...all they have are the rantings of a propagandistic mass media that has stirred up the natives and the corrupt politicians in Atlanta that brought power to bear to overturn the local authorities who did an excellent investigation that exonerated the McMichaels as they deserved to be.

It is obvious, more than obvious to anyone with a logical mind and or some common sense that if Arbery was in fear of his life from the McMichaels that he would have ran towards them...as pointed out multiple times he would have gone in a different direction.

There may be things about this case we do not know or there may not be....but one thing we definitely know is that Ahmaud Arbery was not in fear of his life.....to believe that he was in fear of his life requires the stupidity that only someone like you and your ilk can muster up.

That is all the time I will waste on you.
 

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