I Still Don't Know What It Is That Trump Opponents (Haters) Are Upset About

[Luckyone]

Your cute little word salad here doesnt change a thing. What I said in Post # 2985 and before, that stands 100% intact. Obama ended his reign with 2 years of awful declining GDPs (aka recessions). Trump brought those low GDPs back up again.

Even after the Democrat pandemic, Trump brought us back up again (2020 Q3) with the best GDP quarter in US history (34.8%), that no president (including Clinton) ever came close to equalling.

Regarding your silly race card, I don't see how his color or his racist attitudes prevented whites from doing anything, othr than getting into colleges, getting financial aid, getting hired to jobs, and getting promoted in jobs. The VA hospital that I go to quite often, with 16,000 employees is a testament to Obama's affirmative action racism. In 2009, the employee identity was about 50% non-white and 50% white.
Now, it is about 90% non-white.

Perhaps the worst aspect of obama's anti-2hite racism however show he, Al Sharpton, and Etic Holder went around to cities threatening mayors with DOJ lawsuits, if they did not have their police stand down during riots. This was the undercurrent of the 2014 riots in Ferguson, MO, that we all watched live on TV, with rioters looting and committing arson, and everybody was saying >>>> "Where are the police ? Why arent they stopping this ?" They could have, if not for Obama's intimidation & coercion.

The following year, when Baltimore erupted in rioting, Obama sent running dog Al Sharpton to talk to the mayor (Stephanie Rawlings).
The aftermath of that was protesters running amok and throwing rocks & bottles at police who took no action against them and did nothing but move backwards, covering themselves with shields. Whn asked about the amazing police inaction, Rawlings made this stunning remark >>
"I made it very clear that I work with the police and instructed them to do everything that they could to make sure that the protesters were able to exercise their right to free speech. It's a very delicate balancing act. Because while we try to make sure that they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy, space to do that as well."

Baltimore Mayor: 'Gave Those Who Wished to Destroy Space to Do That'

After days of peaceful protests in honor of the 25-year-old black West Baltimore man who died in police custody on April 19, demonstrations took a violent turn in Baltimore Saturday.

www.cbsnews.com

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"You want me to do WHAT ?"

as far as your comment about declining GPS in the last 2 years of Obama's presidency

Here are the facts (reality) and it means your statement about "awful declining GPS (aka recession)" is totally wrong:

Here is the chart of GDP for all of Obama's years and it also shows how Obama did pull us out of a major recession caused by Bush Jr.

and here is an official comment about the Obama years

Obama’s Legacy on the Economy Is Anything But a Mess​

The economy improved markedly under former President Barack Obama, from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the specter of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama enacted a series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate. The economy was growing again by the second half of 2009, and jobs followed suit by early 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the rest of President Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged its longest expansion on record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1 Employment opportunities improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages eventually increased, and household debt dropped sharply.

In the OP itself, there is a GDP graph that clearly shows that Trump did not improve GDP in any way.

Once again, you prove the OP correct.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The lack of housing stems from the lack of housing construction. Know what's a huge impediment to housing construction? Labor costs in building trades.

Guess who is heavily involved in building trades?

Illegal immigrants.

That’s absolutely untrue. Unions don’t bring in illegals. Do you ever tell the truth and you didn’t dispute my post.

So you’re OK with open borders? Are you feeling OK

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

"Real" unemployment is whatever you say it is?

Nope. I posted a link. Nice try. You should try honesty and see how it goes for you.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

as far as your comment about declining GPS in the last 2 years of Obama's presidency

Here are the facts (reality) and it means your statement about "awful declining GPS (aka recession)" is totally wrong:

Here is the chart of GDP for all of Obama's years and it also shows how Obama did pull us out of a major recession caused by Bush Jr.

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and here is an official comment about the Obama years


In the OP itself, there is a GDP graph that clearly shows that Trump did not improve GDP in any way.

Once again, you prove the OP correct.

Could you post a more partisan link? LOL

 

[Luckyone]

Leave it toa liberal to TRY to whitewash their dirty laundry. You think i havent heard that doubletalk whitewash before. We knpw what they said. We also know quite clearly what she said, and another of your silly word salads doesnt change a thing.

In Ferguson and Baltimore, et al blue cities where Obama and this henchmen could intimidate, rioters went wild and cops stood by doing nothing. This is the history of US rioting over the past 10 years.
San Jose, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New York - blue blights, all of them.
Ho hum. yawn****

Well then, if your are brining up the so-called dirty laundry, why don't you try to explain this:

Hate Crimes Under Trump Surged Nearly 20 Percent Says FBI Report​

Hate crimes have surged nearly 20 percent during the administration of President Donald Trump, according to a new FBI report on hate crime statistics. The report also shows that hate-motivated murders, largely committed by white supremacists, spiked to their highest number in 28 years.

The FBI's annual reports on hate crime statistics show that hate crimes have increased from 6,121 incidents in 2016 to 7,314 in 2019, a 19.49 percent increase

and as far as mass murders, here is the graph

You continue to ignore facts, data and statistics.

 

[Luckyone]

Could you post a more partisan link? LOL

Forget the link. The graph says it all.

 

[playtime]

Don’t care which party you vote for but even a true believer can see that our border policy is a disaster

it is a disaster & would have been a little bit less so had donny not squashed the border bill like a bug.

 

[Marener]

That’s absolutely untrue. Unions don’t bring in illegals. Do you ever tell the truth and you didn’t dispute my post.

So you’re OK with open borders? Are you feeling OK

I disagree.

https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/02/EW-Construction-factsheet.pdf

 

[playtime]

Do you really believe this?

ok ok ... just one more!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

it is a disaster & would have been a little bit less so had donny not squashed the border bill like a bug.

They didn’t propose it til 2024. What about 2021-2023? Illegals are all my pies

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I disagree.

https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/02/EW-Construction-factsheet.pdf

American Progress is a far left ideology site: got anything else?

 

[Marener]

American Progress is a far left ideology site: got anything else?

Do you have anything other than an ad hominem?

 

[playtime]

If it's a lie, then who started it ?

well, there is this:

'It just exploded': Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false rumors about Haitians​

The woman behind an early Facebook post that helped spark baseless rumors about Haitians eating pets told NBC News that she feels for the immigrant community.
Sept. 13, 2024, 6:48 PM EDT
By Alicia Victoria Lozano

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio — The woman behind an early Facebook post spreading a harmful and baseless claim about Haitian immigrants eating local pets that helped thrust a small Ohio city into the national spotlight says she had no firsthand knowledge of any such incident and is now filled with regret and fear as a result of the ensuing fallout.
“It just exploded into something I didn’t mean to happen,” Erika Lee, a Springfield resident, told NBC News on Friday.

Lee recently posted on Facebook about a neighbor’s cat that went missing, adding that the neighbor told Lee she thought the cat was the victim of an attack by her Haitian neighbors.

Other posts have also contributed to the false allegations, including a photo of a man holding a dead goose that was taken in Columbus, Ohio, but was spread by some online as evidence of the claims about Springfield. Graphic video of a woman who allegedly killed and tried to eat a cat was also found not to have originated in Springfield but in Canton, Ohio, and does not have any connection to the Haitian community.


Local police and city officials have repeatedly said there is no evidence of such crimes in Springfield, but that hasn’t stopped the lies from spreading across the country and igniting a national frenzy that landed on the presidential debate stage this week. Former President Donald Trump and his running mate Ohio Sen. JD Vance, who was born less than an hour away from Springfield, have repeated the baseless allegations.
'It just exploded': Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false rumors about Haitians

& BTW ~ if all these pets went missing ... how come there are aren't multiple 'missing pet ' flyers up on telephone poles & stire windows?

huh? huh??? HUH????????

Hillary started the Russian hoax and the birther bull chit movement, and yes Republicans sadly took the bait by repeating it, but the origins just like "gain of function" need to be gotten to the bottom of pronto. Being manipulated too take ones eye off of the ball is an age old political tactic that the Democrat's are attempting to master as a political party.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Do you have anything other than an ad hominem?

How was that an ad hominem?

Do unions hire illegals? Yes or no?

The Center for American Progress (CAP) is a public policy research and advocacy organization which presents a liberal[2]viewpoint on economic and social issues. It has its headquarters in Washington, D.C.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

well, there is this:

'It just exploded': Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false rumors about Haitians​

The woman behind an early Facebook post that helped spark baseless rumors about Haitians eating pets told NBC News that she feels for the immigrant community.
Sept. 13, 2024, 6:48 PM EDT
By Alicia Victoria Lozano

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio — The woman behind an early Facebook post spreading a harmful and baseless claim about Haitian immigrants eating local pets that helped thrust a small Ohio city into the national spotlight says she had no firsthand knowledge of any such incident and is now filled with regret and fear as a result of the ensuing fallout.
“It just exploded into something I didn’t mean to happen,” Erika Lee, a Springfield resident, told NBC News on Friday.

Lee recently posted on Facebook about a neighbor’s cat that went missing, adding that the neighbor told Lee she thought the cat was the victim of an attack by her Haitian neighbors.

Other posts have also contributed to the false allegations, including a photo of a man holding a dead goose that was taken in Columbus, Ohio, but was spread by some online as evidence of the claims about Springfield. Graphic video of a woman who allegedly killed and tried to eat a cat was also found not to have originated in Springfield but in Canton, Ohio, and does not have any connection to the Haitian community.


Local police and city officials have repeatedly said there is no evidence of such crimes in Springfield, but that hasn’t stopped the lies from spreading across the country and igniting a national frenzy that landed on the presidential debate stage this week. Former President Donald Trump and his running mate Ohio Sen. JD Vance, who was born less than an hour away from Springfield, have repeated the baseless allegations.
'It just exploded': Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false rumors about Haitians

& BTW ~ if all these pets went missing ... how come there are aren't multiple 'missing pet ' flyers up on telephone poles & stire windows?

huh? huh??? HUH????????





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[playtime]

You didn't answer the question, would you allow Porn books in grades schools?

depends on what the definition of what porn is. like i said ... age/grade appropriateness & a parent's signature should take care of that problem ... if there is a problem. some uptight individuals might think actual correct body anatomy pictures is porn...

That is the books we're referring to. Did you even know that? Parents didn't want their kids to see those books in the school libraries. And, they were there.

if every parent of every student in every grade wanted every book deemed 'pornographic ' to be removed every year they have kids in every school, then i would agree.

 

[Marener]

How was that an ad hominem?

Do unions hire illegals? Yes or no?

The Center for American Progress (CAP) is a public policy research and advocacy organization which presents a liberal[2]viewpoint on economic and social issues. It has its headquarters in Washington, D.C.

I don’t know how or who unions hire.
But I do know that the vast majority of construction is non-union, only 12% belong to a union.

The Construction Industry: Characteristics of the Employed, 2003–20

This Spotlight on Statistics examines the demographic and socioeconomic characteristics of construction industry workers, putting these characteristics in context by comparing them to those of workers overall.

www.bls.gov

 

[Luckyone]

USA Should Divide Into 2 Separate Nations

What is the solution to the polarization, and in a large part, nastiness, that is so prevalent in the USA nowadays ? I think the problem is that we are trying to be ONE NATION, when really we are not that at all. The first thing one must do to assess themselves as a NATION is to define what a...

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No, it does NOT mean that. Since you love "data" & "statistics" so much, you might be interested to know that in over 460 occupations studied for 20 years, they have majority US citizens working in them. As for service, fields, & construction, none of these are as tough, dirty, or dangerous as some occupations where illegal aliens are rarely ever found, if at all.
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It is not about the danger involved but about the income versus the work done. Americans, and especially Republicans that are driven by individual success with good wages on opportunity for more, do not want to get involved tilling the fields, doing the hard construction work or the simple work of servicing the people for such low wages as the immigrants are willing to do.

This means that if you make your own nation, you would either have to increase the wages and the opportunities for advancement in those low paid and hard work jobs or face chaos from not having anyone willing to do it. Either way, you would be facing a crisis and worse conditions than we presently enjoy.

So please, go ahead and build your own nation (get away from us and your constant bitching and complaining) and let us work intelligently and where it all fits together better, though each individual person has to give a slightly bigger share of their own income, especially the rich....................the ones that you so strongly support and want to give more to.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I don’t know how or who unions hire.
But I do know that the vast majority of construction is non-union, only 12% belong to a union.

The Construction Industry: Characteristics of the Employed, 2003–20

This Spotlight on Statistics examines the demographic and socioeconomic characteristics of construction industry workers, putting these characteristics in context by comparing them to those of workers overall.

www.bls.gov

Unions do not hire illegals. Most big jobs are union jobs. Anything else? We aren’t talking adding a bedroom to your house

 

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on facebook ... not exactly reliable. howeverrrrrrrr....... i'll go with law enforcement's assessment AND the fact that there aren't any videos anywhere ... why not? for god's sake, people are attached to their phones like that face sucker in ALIEN. ( see what i did there!).