Zone1 Very few people want to know the Truth

[Woodznutz]

Alcohol is a drug.

Google "Drugs and alcohol". Report back.

 

[forkintheroad7]

If the Catholic church were the one true church it would bear the name "The Church of God" or "The Church of Christ", not the "Roman Catholic Church".

Says who?

That's like saying that if Christian parents really wanted Christian children, they would name them Peter, James, John... only the names of the 12 Apostles or maybe Mary

Get real

Catholic just means Universal.. as in Universal Church, as in: the Church for all Christians, that gives us Universal (objective) Truth

 

[forkintheroad7]

I'd wager far more what they're told to believe Fork

Their beliefs are their faith , and if they're proven wrong or otherwise degraded , it challenges their faith

~S~

I've had my faith challenged so many times, by events in my life. I mean, you trust God and then all hell breaks loose while you are trying to serve Him the best way you can.. been angry with Him many times. I'm sure you have also? Most people get to that point.. the point of

WHY?

 

[forkintheroad7]

Yeah, but you're religious. You keep a closed mind.

That is ridiculous. It's ironic how unscientific the "proof is required for religious belief" people are. It's just amazingly ironic.

Walk in my shoes and you will u/stand Catholicism. You likely can't begin to do that. The next best thing is to

OMG

study what Catholics believe (NOT speaking of the garbage that comes out of the Vatican, taken over 65 years ago by unChristian people).

Few people study TRUE Catholicism as I have

Few people make it to Heaven also

(says Jesus.. Mt 7.. Lk 13, etc)

 

[forkintheroad7]

"The truth" requires a search for "the truth", which is the most important. Most people on this forum couldn't care less.

can't change anyone but yourself, and you can't even change yourself most of the time because of all the resistance you get.. from within, from without.. Following Truth is often very painful
and guess what?

Humans reject pain, even if they believe it may pan out for them in the end to endure it.. Understandable.. but Jesus said that the Way is narrow.

Jesus knew what to do about this human tendency to avoid pain and seek comfort. That is why he set up His Church as He did. That is why it is so different from non-Catholic "churches" so called------(There is only ONE Church)

 

[Woodznutz]

Says who?

That's like saying that if Christian parents really wanted Christian children, they would name them Peter, James, John... only the names of the 12 Apostles or maybe Mary

Get real

Catholic just means Universal.. as in Universal Church, as in: the Church for all Christians, that gives us Universal (objective) Truth

But it's not the "universal" church for all Christians regardless of its name. In fact, those who 'protest' the RCC are increasing.

 

[forkintheroad7]

So no faith w/out trust, and no trust w/out truth, and no truth w/out proof Ding?

~S~

I found a lot of truth but it did not give me TRUST in God. I struggle with that & likely will for the rest of my stay on the lovely planet Earth (not lovely at all).

Well, actually, the Truth in the Bible did give me trust, but I have to confess, I haven't been reading it (I mean: re-reading it) a lot these days. I have a very strange story.. most people would not understand it unless I wrote a Bible-sized book, which I've started to do a few times but.. I guess you could say the devil and/or God interfered and I never got anywhere finishing it.. maybe bc I'm still living the damn thing

 

[forkintheroad7]

But it's not the "universal" church for all Christians regardless of its name. In fact, those who 'protest' the RCC are increasing.

Jesus said most people end up in Hell (paraphrase, but an accurate one)

so yeh.. So much for paying attention to what the majority does..

St Leonard of Port Maurice reports (long story how he knew this but anyhow) that only one in about 100,000 people went straight to Heaven at death (this was at the time he was speaking anyway, which was quite awhile ago), 2 (or 3) went to Purgatory, which means they will eventually end up in Heaven and all the rest went to Hell.

 

[forkintheroad7]

But it's not the "universal" church for all Christians regardless of its name. In fact, those who 'protest' the RCC are increasing.

"The devil has come down hard on the world, for he knows he has but a short time."

 

[forkintheroad7]

not mine
~S~

your reality probably sucks at times.. I know life is not easy for anyone, although some people have it harder than others.

In any case, liberals like Frigid.. are always doing this: stating an opinion as though it were fact..

It's like they really do believe their own bs.. no matter how illogical it is.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Partly true. I draw the line at certain things. For example, although I have guzzled my share of booze, I have never used drugs of any kind. As I get older I get more conservative, not more liberal. However, I get less judgmental of others, for example if someone wants to kill themselves with drugs or other dumb behaviors, I'm ok with that, and I won't interfere by trying to stop them. Live and let live (or die) I say.

Jesus would not approve of that. Remember the story of the good Samaritan?

I know.. you'll say that guy was just minding his own business & got attacked by thugs.. wasn't using illegal substances

but, well, for one thing: How do we know that? Jesus does not say. The guy could have been overcome by thugs because he wasn't paying attention bc he was drinking heavily. Jesus doesn't say

Then there is the psg about Jesus saying that those who did not give Him what he needed (by giving one of his followers what he or she needed) would go to "eternal punishment." Then he addressed the group that did take care of Him by taking care of others and even THEY did not know, at the time they gave this care to someone in need, that it was really Jesus they were helping. So neither group, the givers or the non-givers knew they were helping Jesus.. and yet one "ignorant" group went to Hell and the other to Heaven.. Mt 25:31-46

 

[forkintheroad7]

Still doing your best to send people to hell, I see.

 

[The Irish Ram]

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I call BULLSHIT.

This whole thread is a massive waste of time. You aren't explaining it because you can't.

It's over, you've lost. good bye.

You can call it whatever you want. I couldn't care less. You didn't even know the planet is in an ice age yet you are certain an incremental 120 ppm of atmospheric will override a 3 million year trend of glacial cycles.

I'm not explaining it to YOU because it would be a waste of my time. You are clearly someone who forms strong opinions without doing any study at all and nothing will change your uninformed ignorant opinions.

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus would not approve of that. Remember the story of the good Samaritan?

I know.. you'll say that guy was just minding his own business & got attacked by thugs.. wasn't using illegal substances

but, well, for one thing: How do we know that? Jesus does not say. The guy could have been overcome by thugs because he wasn't paying attention bc he was drinking heavily. Jesus doesn't say

Then there is the psg about Jesus saying that those who did not give Him what he needed (by giving one of his followers what he or she needed) would go to "eternal punishment." Then he addressed the group that did take care of Him by taking care of others and even THEY did not know, at the time they gave this care to someone in need, that it was really Jesus they were helping. So neither group, the givers or the non-givers knew they were helping Jesus.. and yet one "ignorant" group went to Hell and the other to Heaven.. Mt 25:31-46

Do you know what a "frequent flyer" is, in medical terms?

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus would not approve of that. Remember the story of the good Samaritan?

I know.. you'll say that guy was just minding his own business & got attacked by thugs.. wasn't using illegal substances

but, well, for one thing: How do we know that? Jesus does not say. The guy could have been overcome by thugs because he wasn't paying attention bc he was drinking heavily. Jesus doesn't say

Then there is the psg about Jesus saying that those who did not give Him what he needed (by giving one of his followers what he or she needed) would go to "eternal punishment." Then he addressed the group that did take care of Him by taking care of others and even THEY did not know, at the time they gave this care to someone in need, that it was really Jesus they were helping. So neither group, the givers or the non-givers knew they were helping Jesus.. and yet one "ignorant" group went to Hell and the other to Heaven.. Mt 25:31-46

The good Samaritan didn't go looking for someone to help, but when the situation was right in front of him, he helped the man. My exposure to those who need help is almost nonexistent, except for my kids, who I help when they need it. Family first I say.

It should be noted that about 25 percent of our tax money goes to social programs. Compute that into hours that you work just to help others, beside your charitable contributions. Some chafe at paying those taxes but I have no problem with it.

 

[forkintheroad7]

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I thought I'd save you some time and energy. You are on Ignore so you can now concentrate on other, more compatible posters.

 

[forkintheroad7]

The good Samaritan didn't go looking for someone to help, but when the situation was right in front of him, he helped the man. My exposure to those who need help is almost nonexistent, except for my kids, who I help when they need it. Family first I say.

It should be noted that about 25 percent of our tax money goes to social programs. Compute that into hours that you work just to help others, beside your charitable contributions. Some chafe at paying those taxes but I have no problem with it.

I am not big on the gummit helping people. However, I know of one person right now who has every problem in the book.. and I don't think it is "all" that person's fault anymore than it is all ANYONE's fault that they have to deal with.. you name it..

I know this other person who was rejected when very young by the whole family. How about the fact that evil is done to people, to cause them to lose everything, and maybe THOSE people should be blamed rather than the victims?

I think there is a lot of waste and fraud in govt programs that help the poor. Get rid of that and it would not be 25% being spent on the poor. Actually, right now, that 25% is mostly spent of administrative costs, IMO (haven' researched this extensively but have observed things throughout my life). So that 25% you mention does not reach them and their problems persist. Too bad the "churches" don't do more, although some of them do and I applaud them..

 

[The Irish Ram]

I thought I'd save you some time and energy. You are on Ignore so you can now concentrate on other, more compatible posters.

Oh NO! How shall I go on???

No one cares about you ignore list. It doesn't change the fact that Christ never went to Rome to start a church. Peter was dead for 300 years before he became your first Pope. Paul's churches predate the Catholic church by a few hundred years. Your Pope sux.

 

[otto105]

Why can't existence be considered proof?

What proof does it prove?