vegan, vegetarian, or just normal food?

[Dagosa]

Get in touch with the food manufacturer for the details.

Nope. They lie unless forced to by regulation. And no, when we buy food we expect to see what it is ON the label.
Do you buy a fking car and ask for any service BLINDLY. Nope, that’s hypocritical bullshit that even people who,promote it don’t do.

 

[Blues Man]

Exactly…but there is a huge difference among species and ultimately people in their ability to extract protein from animal vs plant base sources. A veggie gorilla comes to mind.
And, as we age, animal based proteins become more of a consideration. If you want or need more muscle or bone mass regardless. All sources are “ on the table”.

We do not need to eat complete proteins as long as we ingest enough essential amino acids so we can manufacture what we need.

When you eat a steak your body doesn;t absorb the entire protein molecule it breaks it down into amino chains then recombines them

Bone mass is not related to protein intake. In fact meat acidifies the blood and calcium is leeched out of bones to maintain an optimal Ph.

 

[Woodznutz]

It looks like I touched a nerve....

In all seriousness, I didn't want to offend you, but I also didn't want to avoid speaking the truth or sugarcoat it. The fact of the matter that many Christians HAVE put their physical desire for flesh above God's command to be merciful, loving, selfless, and live peacefully with others (non-violent.) I didn't mean to single you out, because it's not just you, it's 95% of all Christians. lol.

Thanks, but I'm not offended. I think the church has bigger problems than food selection.

 

[Woodznutz]

So you really can't see the difference between the Iron Age and today?

A world with no refrigeration, no antibiotics, no idea of germs and bacteria contamination where most of your food came from a couple miles away is not the world we live in today.

Eating meat is no longer needed for survival the only reason to eat it is for your pleasure.

Lots of things we enjoy are not needed for our survival. Where do you want to start?

 

[Woodznutz]

Diet is the single most important thing that determines short and long term health in the average person

There's a lot more to diet than meets the eye as well (trust me, I'm an expert on this).

 

[Woodznutz]

We do not need to eat complete proteins as long as we ingest enough essential amino acids so we can manufacture what we need.

When you eat a steak your body doesn;t absorb the entire protein molecule it breaks it down into amino chains then recombines them

Bone mass is not related to protein intake. In fact meat acidifies the blood and calcium is leeched out of bones to maintain an optimal Ph.

Calcium is transferred in and out of the bones as needed, it isn't 'leeched'.

 

[Blues Man]

Lots of things we enjoy are not needed for our survival. Where do you want to start?

Do those things all require the death and suffering of trillions of animals?

 

[Blues Man]

Calcium is transferred in and out of the bones as needed, it isn't 'leeched'.

And when you keep your blood acidified by eating meat it's needed all the time.

 

[Woodznutz]

Meaningless anecdotal tripe.

Enough such anecdotes become data.

 

[Blues Man]

And when you keep your blood acidified by eating meat it's needed all the time.

The fuuny thing is people think milk is good for your bones yet lifelong milk drinkers suffere from osteoporosis ffar more than vegans do.

 

[Blues Man]

Enough such anecdotes become data.

And the data actually shows a WFPB diet is far healthier

 

[Woodznutz]

Do those things all require the death and suffering of trillions of animals?

Do you have a plan to change the diet, and thus the economy, and the social order of the entire world?

 

[Blues Man]

Do you have a plan to change the diet, and thus the economy, and the social order of the entire world?

Yeah stop eating meat.

grow food for humans instead of cattle

 

[Blues Man]

Do you have a plan to change the diet, and thus the economy, and the social order of the entire world?

using your argument we should still be riding horses and using buttonhooks

 

[Woodznutz]

Yeah stop eating meat.

grow food for humans instead of cattle

Can you 'flesh' that plan out a bit?

 

[Woodznutz]

The fuuny thing is people think milk is good for your bones yet lifelong milk drinkers suffere from osteoporosis ffar more than vegans do.

There is no firm evidence of this.


My sister moved from Wisconsin, where we were raised on milk, to Oklahoma where iced tea is the favored mealtime drink. She quickly developed osteoporosis (and she began to drink more, not good for the bones).

 

[Blues Man]

Can you 'flesh' that plan out a bit?

Why?

Do you think there was a fleshed out plan for all new things that changed the economy?

Instead of growing one type of fodder for cows farmers can grow a variety of different crops for people

Instead of using dead animals for all sorts of products start a new industry that synthesizes those things from other sources.

Instead of burning down rain forests to graze cattle start eco tourism businesses instead.

The possibilities are endless.

 

[Blues Man]

There is no firm evidence of this.


My sister moved from Wisconsin, where we were raised on milk, to Oklahoma where iced tea is the favored mealtime drink. She quickly developed osteoporosis.

So? A drink that has sky high amounts of processed sugar acidifies the blood just like milk does.

 

[Woodznutz]

using your argument we should still be riding horses and using buttonhooks

Riding horse is an enjoyable pastime. Their manure is also very good for the soil.

 

[Blues Man]

Can Drinking Too Much Milk Make Your Bones More Brittle?

If milk does a body good, what does tons of milk do? It’s a case where more isn’t necessarily better.

health.clevelandclinic.org

three or more glasses a day – was not only associated with mortality but also an increased risk of fracture and hip fracture.

Plus, it found that women who reported drinking three or more glasses of milk each day nearly doubled their risk of death in relation to women who drank less than one glass each day.