US to withdraw from NATO?

[JonKoch]

Turkey intercepted two Iranian missiles and NATO nations looked the other way.

Did Turkey ask for Article 5? Nope

 

[kyzr]

Did Turkey ask for help?

Doesn't matter. Iran, a state sponsor of terror, currently developing nuclear weapons in violation of the JCPOA, attacked Turkey, a NATO country, who could invoke Article 5 to allow NATO to help the US open Hormuz and do a regime change in Iran to eliminate the nuclear threat.

Since NATO is worthless when any military action is needed to remove serious threats, the US should put NATO on notice that the US is also not responsible to respond to Article 5.

 

[JonKoch]

The euro NATO weenies population outnumbers America 980 million to 320 million

And they have a combined GDP comparable to US

But they want to mooch off the US military

They are cowardly welfare bums

Too bad the US has been controlled by Corps who want the US to protect and overthrow nations worldwide for 100+ years, Monroe Doctrine. Bet Cheeto wants to change that and shrink the MIC and it's spending right?

US defense spending would rise $445bn under Trump budget plan, with steep cuts elsewhere​

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

Dwight D. Eisenhower (nicknamed "Ike") warned against the dangers of a growing "military-industrial complex" (MIC) in his farewell address on January 17, 1961.

 

[JonKoch]

Iran has been attacking the U.S. for more than 45 years. previous presidents - including Trump 45 - have taken the approach that it is better to allow relatively small attacks than to fight back and it become a larger war than Iran has been fighting against us.

With them being so close to a nuclear weapon, and with the Mullahs showing no sign of abandoning their desire to bring about the end times, we made the wise decision to fight back. Fighting back does not mean that we were not attacked. We fight back because we were under attack.

FAKE NEWS. Cheeto "totally obliterated" their nuclear program 9 months ago

 

[Seymour Flops]

FAKE NEWS. Cheeto "totally obliterated" their nuclear program 9 months ago

Then they rebuilt it.

As I've been saying, sock, it's the regime more than the nukes. Lots of countries have nukes, but they are not headed by theocratic maniacs who want to bring about the end of the world.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

FAKE NEWS. Cheeto "totally obliterated" their nuclear program 9 months ago

If they were "totally obliterated" 9 months ago, then the fact that the US is back at war with them proves we failed the first time.

 

[Mac-7]

Too bad the US has been controlled by Corps who want the US to protect and overthrow nations worldwide for 100+ years, Monroe Doctrine. Bet Cheeto wants to change that and shrink the MIC and it's spending right?

US defense spending would rise $445bn under Trump budget plan, with steep cuts elsewhere​

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

Dwight D. Eisenhower (nicknamed "Ike") warned against the dangers of a growing "military-industrial complex" (MIC) in his farewell address on January 17, 1961.

You are not well informed about US history

America was an unwilling participant in WW I and WWII

That is in line with your 100 year time period

 

[TimFitz]

Being taken advantage of by Socialist Europe is worse

It is?

You prefer political instability?

I guess you do. As your beloved fuhrer is devoted to chaos.

 

[TimFitz]

Doesn't matter. Iran, a state sponsor of terror, currently developing nuclear weapons in violation of the JCPOA, attacked Turkey, a NATO country, who could invoke Article 5 to allow NATO to help the US open Hormuz and do a regime change in Iran to eliminate the nuclear threat.

Since NATO is worthless when any military action is needed to remove serious threats, the US should put NATO on notice that the US is also not responsible to respond to Article 5.

You keep repeating the same lies.

 

[Zavulon]

Then they rebuilt it.

As I've been saying, sock, it's the regime more than the nukes. Lots of countries have nukes, but they are not headed by theocratic maniacs who want to bring about the end of the world.

Actually, both USA and Israel seems to be headed by theocratic maniacs. Iran seems quite reasonable and responsible state, compared with them.

 

[SweetTea]

FAKE NEWS. Cheeto "totally obliterated" their nuclear program 9 months ago

Evidently not. They TOLD us they had stockpiles of enriched uranium. Are you saying they lied? To what end? Bravado?

 

[TimFitz]

You are not well informed about US history

America was an unwilling participant in WW I and WWII

That is in line with your 100 year time period

That’s right.

And because the US drug its feet, both wars lasted a lot longer, and the US would up having to devote far more resources then they would have required otherwise. millions died.

isolationism led to the U.S. ignoring the threats gathering, and left the US woefully unprepared.

I haven’t seen any Trumpsters cheering for a 50% increase in military spending, yet.

 

[Zavulon]

Evidently not. They TOLD us they had stockpiles of enriched uranium. Are you saying they lied? To what end? Bravado?

Having enriched Uranium and having nuclear weapon programs - are two different things.

 

[kyzr]

You keep repeating the same lies.

What lies? Put up link(s) proving them.

 

[Tyrion234]

Actually, both USA and Israel seems to be headed by theocratic maniacs. Iran seems quite reasonable and responsible state, compared with them.

Congratulations for dumbest post of the century award

 

[Mac-7]

That’s right.

And because the US drug its feet, both wars lasted a lot longer, and the US would up having to devote far more resources then they would have required otherwise. millions died.

isolationism led to the U.S. ignoring the threats gathering, and left the US woefully unprepared.

I haven’t seen any Trumpsters cheering for a 50% increase in military spending, yet.

You are talking out of both sides of your mouth

Go play in traffic

 

[SweetTea]

Having enriched Uranium and having nuclear weapon programs - are two different things.

When the uranium is 60% enriched and the country has missles capable of reaching EU, they are very similar things.

 

[Zavulon]

When the uranium is 60% enriched and the country has missles capable of reaching EU, they are very similar things.

Of course, no. They are still different.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yes, Iran's nuclear weapons program was dealt a severe setback in 2025, which Trump hyperbolically called "obliteration."

The Mulluhs seemed determined to keep building nukes while they murder their own people for dissent.

Amazing the kind of people that Trump Derangement makes Democrats get into bed with.

 

[SweetTea]

Of course, no. They are still different.

Ah, to be a child again.