US to withdraw from NATO?

Why are you asking me? You were the one that replied to me.
Because your response seems to imply you don't know what NATO is for. So I'm just checking to see if you do or not. It's kind of essential to this conversation.
 
Because your response seems to imply you don't know what NATO is for. So I'm just checking to see if you do or not. It's kind of essential to this conversation.
I know what it is for, and that is precisely why I want us out of it.
 
Your claims are false, as usual. I’ll give it to you. When you make it up, you post the most obvious lies. The JCPOA did not expire.
Your fuhrer unilaterally repudiated it. Indeed, all the signatories except Trump accepted the IAEA assessment that Iran was in compliance.
Iran may not have 11 bombs (or whatever sensationalized number you care to make up).
But after having the JCPOA broken by the United States, attacks on Iranian facilities, and now, an unproved, unnecessary war started against them by the United States, they would be crazy not to.
You can keep typing lies or read the answer below:

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Iran claimed to have enough uranium for 11 nuclear bombs, US envoy Witkoff says​

“The 60% material, Sean, can be brought to 90%, that’s weapons-grade, in roughly one week, maybe 10 days at the outside. The 20% can be brought to weapons-grade inside of three to four weeks.”
“They were proud of it,” Witkoff went on. “They were proud that they had evaded all sorts of oversight protocols to get to a place where they could deliver 11 nuclear bombs.”
 
Leave the wellfare states out to rot. I don't support war. I am anti-war.
With all those "allies" letting us park our tanks in their garages and fly each other's planes, war mongers will bet high and often on conflict. We don't need NATO to have an temporary agreement with another country to join forces against a common problem while the problem exists. This would eliminate a lot of the bureaucratic waste associated with NATO.
 
What did NATO do about Putin's invasion of Ukraine?

What do you think NATO would do if China invaded California somehow or if Russia invaded the East Coast?

Suppose Either country promised the European members of NATO not to attack them, so long as they stayed out of the war in North America? Including promising Denmark that they could keep their Greenland colony?

Suppose Russia or China offered further incentives to Europe such as favorable trade deals to stay out?

Please tell me you don't seriously believe that France, Germany, Finland, and Sweden are going to join the war to rush to the U.S.' aid?
Ukraine's NOT part of NATO, but they put sanctions on Russia and have sent $300+ billion in aid
 
With all those "allies" letting us park our tanks in their garages and fly each other's planes, war mongers will bet high and often on conflict. We don't need NATO to have an temporary agreement with another country to join forces against a common problem while the problem exists. This would eliminate a lot of the bureaucratic waste associated with NATO.
It would also show other countries that they can do whatever they like.
 
Do you understand that NATO is a US led thing, and the US needs allies?

Look at the Iran War (it's a ******* war), the US needed allies to get there, to solve problems.

The aircraft carrier has problems, go to Greece. Need to send planes, use UK and German airbases.

The US can't do ANYTHING without those allies, it can't project its power, can't invade Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, can't bomb Libya, Syria....

Ignorance doesn't help you.

I already said I was FOR it Frigid, you don't have to keep selling me on it...
 
What are you talking about?

Do you know what NATO is?

It's quite literally an 'alliance.' But it's also the reason now why if two countries decide to go to war, then 8 OTHER countries have to then declare war, which is how lowly skirmishes between two neighboring countries become full blown WORLD WARS. The US is better off NOT having that obligation. I'd rather have the free will to decide if a 'skirmish' is worth getting involved in.
 
It's quite literally an 'alliance.' But it's also the reason now why if two countries decide to go to war, then 8 OTHER countries have to then declare war, which is how lowly skirmishes between two neighboring countries become full blown WORLD WARS. The US is better off NOT having that obligation. I'd rather have the free will to decide if a 'skirmish' is worth getting involved in.
It's quite literally a DEFENSIVE alliance. Not an attacking alliance.
 
It's quite literally a DEFENSIVE alliance. Not an attacking alliance.


The bedrock commitment at the core of NATO is that an attack against one of its members is considered as an attack against all.

So if Russia invaded Germany tomorrow, our ONLY obligation would be to send in nurses and aid packages? You srsly believe that?
 

The bedrock commitment at the core of NATO is that an attack against one of its members is considered as an attack against all.

So if Russia invaded Germany tomorrow, our ONLY obligation would be to send in nurses and aid packages? You srsly believe that?
Help us understand, post the chapter from NATO making that claim.
 
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Ah, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you were new here and didn't know how message boards worked...?
You literally wrote as if you had sent me a message, and I had replied and you were replying to that.

"I already said" to quote the first three words of your post.

I wasn't replying to you, so it doesn't matter if you "already said" something. I wasn't replying to you.

You can join in with a post, but to do it in the manner you do is just baffling.
 

The bedrock commitment at the core of NATO is that an attack against one of its members is considered as an attack against all.

So if Russia invaded Germany tomorrow, our ONLY obligation would be to send in nurses and aid packages? You srsly believe that?

What?

No, if Germany was attacked by Russia, the US's job is to DEFEND GERMANY. Not to go and invade Russia. They could if they wanted.

But if Germany said "we're invading Russia" the US could say "no, that's not what NATO is for".
 

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