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[Phoenall]

Arabs have less rights than Jews.

Aparatheid.

Thanks for playing.

Yes they do have less rights in the Arab countries surrounding Israel. Israel has very tight borders and keeping the Arabs outside Israel is not apartheid. Inside Israel, fences around Gaza and the West bank is not apartheid, it's to keep brain fevered lunatics from committing death and destruction inside Israel proper. You're just pissed because your brethern can't operate in Israel.

Ah, here we go, the "Cannibal" argument.

This was the argument South Africa made, because even though they were oppressing the blacks, it was okay, because other African countries were worse. Geezus, some of them were run by freakin' Cannibals. (Idi Amin and Jean Bossaka).

Frankly, if you need to keep tight borders around people WITHIN your country because they want to bomb you, then you are an apartheid state.

The Israel Proper argument doesn't fly because Israel is buidlign settlements and militarily ruling the "Occupped Territories". NOr are they willing to consider a peace agreement based on the 1967 borders.

Since when has gaza and the west bank been in Israel, the last I heard was that gaza was hamas controlled and the west bank fatah controlled. Both of which are Palestinian political groups and are not Israeli. The tight borders keep the threat of attack to a minimum and arte there to protect all Israeli citizens. The Palestinians are not Israeli citizens by choice.
The settlements are built on Jewish owned land that the Jews have title deeds to. The military are occupying the west bank under the aegis of the Geneva conventions.

There were never any 1967 borders, no treaty to say that there were borders mutually agreed. What there was were a set of ceasefire lines were hostilities were halted.

Unless you can find a treaty signed by Israel agreeing to the borders of 1967 after the 6 day war ?

 

[JoeB131]

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Those outside of Israels borders are not Israeli citizens so they don't have the Israelis rights. Will you campaign to give the Vietnamese, Iraqi's and Afghanis the vote in American elections.
So what about the Italians, Germans and Japanese driven out of America during and after WW2 for siding with the enemy. Were they given the right of return.

No it is like claiming America is a democracy after doing exactly the same thing as Israel did.

We didn't occupy those countries with the intention of colonizing them because a Magic Sky Fairy promised us their land.

Eventually, the intent was ALWAYS to leave them totheir own devices. and in the case of Vietnam and IRaq, they told us to go **** ourselves... just like the Afghans will, eventually.

Incidently, very few Germans were "Driven out of the country" during World War II, and the Japanese who were locked up were eventually paid a lot of money because what we did to them was wrong as three left nuts. So you really are grasping for straws here, guy.

Fact is, there are more Palestinians than Zionists, and if everyone got a vote on the matter, Israel would be gone. So they occuppy, they deny the right to return, and they do a bunch of other tricks to deny the majority their rights while having the "illusion' of democracy.

And it fools no one but the Funditarded Christians who think there needs to be an Israel so Jesus can come back.

 

[Phoenall]

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Geneva conventions and UN charter say differently little boy, and to be apartheid it has to be Israel so unless the Palestinians have surrendered there is no apartheid just occupation for defence.
It is simple apartheid happens within a countries borders to one group of people who are singled out to be apart or away from all the others. It is akin to the American south's racism to ex black slaves who had separate or apartheid places of transport, cafe's, schools, churches etc. It did not extend to Vietnam which America occupied for a short while.

THere have been 43 UN Resolutions against what Zionist Entity does to the Palestinians.

And the point is, Vietnam was occuppied for a SHORT time. The ZIonists have been occuppying Palestine for nearly 70 years now. They've been occupying the West Bank and Gaza for 45 years now.

So you are now saying that the legal land owners did not have the right to bequeath the land to the Jews for a NATIONAL HOME, and should have just given the whole world to the muslims.
The occupation of gaza ended in August 2005

 

[JoeB131]

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Since when has gaza and the west bank been in Israel, the last I heard was that gaza was hamas controlled and the west bank fatah controlled. Both of which are Palestinian political groups and are not Israeli. The tight borders keep the threat of attack to a minimum and arte there to protect all Israeli citizens. The Palestinians are not Israeli citizens by choice.
The settlements are built on Jewish owned land that the Jews have title deeds to. The military are occupying the west bank under the aegis of the Geneva conventions.

There were never any 1967 borders, no treaty to say that there were borders mutually agreed. What there was were a set of ceasefire lines were hostilities were halted.

Unless you can find a treaty signed by Israel agreeing to the borders of 1967 after the 6 day war ?

Frankly, if I needed fences to protect me from my neighbors, who were willing to strap bombs onto their children in an attempt to KILL ME, I'd seriously consider living somewhere else.

But I don't think that my property was promised to me by a Magic Sky Pixie.

i mean, you can come up with all sort of legal contrivances to try to rationalize what the Zionists are doing, but the fact is, most of the world rejects it and the UN has passed 43 Resolutions condemning Israel's actions.

 

[pbel]

Israel maintained business and political ties with SA in part out of necessity. To condemn Israel is a bit like blaming the US or EU for maintaining economic and political ties with half the nations in the world atrociously in violation of basic human rights. Israel has been and still is shunned by a third of the world. SA recognized Israel when other would not.
Although some sactions and embargo of certain items were imposed, the US and Europe did not cut all ties with SA. Why blame Israel?

Answer one question Aris, were you ever a member of the Christian Phalange?

Are you a democrat or republican, did you ever serve in the military or civilian? How personal should questions get?

Never a member of any political party in Lebanon. I had friends who were, but then I had friends among all the parties and military. Presidents, kings, prime ministers, politicians, ambassadors, judges, union leaders, businessmen as well as terrorist, assassins and weapons dealers were among my circle(s). My interests were not political but peace. It was a different place and a difficult time that most americans could never understand.
Not all christians in Lebanon were phalange. There are over 115 political parties that represent more than 20 religions in Lebanon. I was an army brat with an exceptional upbringing and life.

Yea, cry me a River...Of course you deny the Phalange Fascist tag, but I think you're covering up your affiliations. Fess up!

 

[Sally]

Answer one question Aris, were you ever a member of the Christian Phalange?

Are you a democrat or republican, did you ever serve in the military or civilian? How personal should questions get?

Never a member of any political party in Lebanon. I had friends who were, but then I had friends among all the parties and military. Presidents, kings, prime ministers, politicians, ambassadors, judges, union leaders, businessmen as well as terrorist, assassins and weapons dealers were among my circle(s). My interests were not political but peace. It was a different place and a difficult time that most americans could never understand.
Not all christians in Lebanon were phalange. There are over 115 political parties that represent more than 20 religions in Lebanon. I was an army brat with an exceptional upbringing and life.

Yea, cry me a River...Of course you deny the Phalange Fascist tag, but I think you're covering up your affiliations. Fess up!

Pbel would never admit that this forum is very lucky to have someone like Aris posting here with her experience in the Middle East, of which Pbel knows practically nothing. Thank for, Aris, for being here and ignore the childish remarks.

 

[pbel]

Well, he said it folks: APARTHEID!!!

no.he didn't. and why aren't you whining about the dozen apartheid arab countries?

Since he is so concerned with marriages, I think he should protest with the American citizens who have Mexican roots and who have married Mexican citizens but can't bring their spouses into this country.

I'm still waiting for your link or are you the liar airhead I always surmised?

 

[Sally]

no.he didn't. and why aren't you whining about the dozen apartheid arab countries?

Since he is so concerned with marriages, I think he should protest with the American citizens who have Mexican roots and who have married Mexican citizens but can't bring their spouses into this country.

I'm still waiting for your link or are you the liar airhead I always surmised?

Poor Pbel, did you ever think that people thought you as the clown of the message board for all the nonsense you posted? Go find some Mexican or Central American woman, romance her, and see how fast you can bring her into the country after you marry her.

 

[pbel]

Since he is so concerned with marriages, I think he should protest with the American citizens who have Mexican roots and who have married Mexican citizens but can't bring their spouses into this country.

I'm still waiting for your link or are you the liar airhead I always surmised?

Poor Pbel, did you ever think that people thought you as the clown of the message board for all the nonsense you posted? Go find some Mexican or Central American woman, romance her, and see how fast you can bring her into the country after you marry her.

I have to admit, you are a foul liar...Just post the link or just apologize like a decent person, Jackass.

 

[Sally]

I'm still waiting for your link or are you the liar airhead I always surmised?

Poor Pbel, did you ever think that people thought you as the clown of the message board for all the nonsense you posted? Go find some Mexican or Central American woman, romance her, and see how fast you can bring her into the country after you marry her.

I have to admit, you are a foul liar...Just post the link or just apologize like a decent person, Jackass.

It's really funny seeing a real Jackass get up on his high horse. I am sure you can research Immigration Laws on your own, Pbel. Why not give us a rundown of the immigration laws in the Western Hemisphere? No doubt you are not so obsessed with Israel and the Arabs that you haven't read that those illegals from Central America trying to get into the U.S. for jobs are picked up in Mexico and deported.

 

[pbel]

Poor Pbel, did you ever think that people thought you as the clown of the message board for all the nonsense you posted? Go find some Mexican or Central American woman, romance her, and see how fast you can bring her into the country after you marry her.

I have to admit, you are a foul liar...Just post the link or just apologize like a decent person, Jackass.

It's really funny seeing a real Jackass get up on his high horse. I am sure you can research Immigration Laws on your own, Pbel. Why not give us a rundown of the immigration laws in the Western Hemisphere? No doubt you are not so obsessed with Israel and the Arabs that you haven't read that those illegals from Central America trying to get into the U.S. for jobs are picked up in Mexico and deported.

I have, airhead, Google makes liars like you everyday. There is no law that prohibits an American Citizen to bring back a spouse from any nation save Israel.

You like many two penny Zionists are a confirmed liar. Apologize to the board.

 

[Phoenall]

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Since when has gaza and the west bank been in Israel, the last I heard was that gaza was hamas controlled and the west bank fatah controlled. Both of which are Palestinian political groups and are not Israeli. The tight borders keep the threat of attack to a minimum and arte there to protect all Israeli citizens. The Palestinians are not Israeli citizens by choice.
The settlements are built on Jewish owned land that the Jews have title deeds to. The military are occupying the west bank under the aegis of the Geneva conventions.

There were never any 1967 borders, no treaty to say that there were borders mutually agreed. What there was were a set of ceasefire lines were hostilities were halted.

Unless you can find a treaty signed by Israel agreeing to the borders of 1967 after the 6 day war ?

Frankly, if I needed fences to protect me from my neighbors, who were willing to strap bombs onto their children in an attempt to KILL ME, I'd seriously consider living somewhere else.

But I don't think that my property was promised to me by a Magic Sky Pixie.

i mean, you can come up with all sort of legal contrivances to try to rationalize what the Zionists are doing, but the fact is, most of the world rejects it and the UN has passed 43 Resolutions condemning Israel's actions.

The fact is the Palestinians are just psychopathic animals that live to mass murder, and before the fence was erected they bombed Israeli children all the time. If your neighbours were out to bomb you, you would do exactly what Israel is doing and stop them by any means at your disposal.
Neither was Israel it was promised by the LoN after WW1 as the NATIONAL HOME of the jews
Most of the world doesn't and care to name these 43 resolutions so we can see just what dastardly deeds Israel is supposed to have committed.

By the way the Palestinians believe that their big bad sky pixie gave then the world, which is why they love brainwashed morons who defend their bloodthirsty ways. Ring any bells ?

 

[Sally]

I have to admit, you are a foul liar...Just post the link or just apologize like a decent person, Jackass.

It's really funny seeing a real Jackass get up on his high horse. I am sure you can research Immigration Laws on your own, Pbel. Why not give us a rundown of the immigration laws in the Western Hemisphere? No doubt you are not so obsessed with Israel and the Arabs that you haven't read that those illegals from Central America trying to get into the U.S. for jobs are picked up in Mexico and deported.

I have, airhead, Google makes liars like you everyday. There is no law that prohibits an American Citizen to bring back a spouse from any nation save Israel.

You like many two penny Zionists are a confirmed liar. Apologize to the board.

Show us what you picked up, Pbel. Did you pick up anything where some American citizens can marry someone from any country South of the Board and then just waltz in right away with his wif?. And, Pbel, it is really a riot how hard you try to make people believe that you care about the Arabs. Where were you when it was reported that the Palestinian Arabs were starving in a camp in Syria and food wasn't allowed to go through?
Where were you even with one mention of what the unfortunate Arabs are underoing in Syria? All those tens of thousands killed, probably tens of thousands wounded, and two and a half million refugees, and mums the word with you because you can't drag in the Jews with the misfortunes these people are experiencing.

 

[pbel]

It's really funny seeing a real Jackass get up on his high horse. I am sure you can research Immigration Laws on your own, Pbel. Why not give us a rundown of the immigration laws in the Western Hemisphere? No doubt you are not so obsessed with Israel and the Arabs that you haven't read that those illegals from Central America trying to get into the U.S. for jobs are picked up in Mexico and deported.

I have, airhead, Google makes liars like you everyday. There is no law that prohibits an American Citizen to bring back a spouse from any nation save Israel.

You like many two penny Zionists are a confirmed liar. Apologize to the board.

Show us what you picked up, Pbel. Did you pick up anything where some American citizens can marry someone from any country South of the Board and then just waltz in right away with his wif?. And, Pbel, it is really a riot how hard you try to make people believe that you care about the Arabs. Where were you when it was reported that the Palestinian Arabs were starving in a camp in Syria and food wasn't allowed to go through?
Where were you even with one mention of what the unfortunate Arabs are underoing in Syria? All those tens of thousands killed, probably tens of thousands wounded, and two and a half million refugees, and mums the word with you because you can't drag in the Jews with the misfortunes these people are experiencing.

Without even reading your remarks AH, It is your burden of proof to back up your Racist statement about America.

 

[Sally]

I have, airhead, Google makes liars like you everyday. There is no law that prohibits an American Citizen to bring back a spouse from any nation save Israel.

You like many two penny Zionists are a confirmed liar. Apologize to the board.

Show us what you picked up, Pbel. Did you pick up anything where some American citizens can marry someone from any country South of the Board and then just waltz in right away with his wif?. And, Pbel, it is really a riot how hard you try to make people believe that you care about the Arabs. Where were you when it was reported that the Palestinian Arabs were starving in a camp in Syria and food wasn't allowed to go through?
Where were you even with one mention of what the unfortunate Arabs are underoing in Syria? All those tens of thousands killed, probably tens of thousands wounded, and two and a half million refugees, and mums the word with you because you can't drag in the Jews with the misfortunes these people are experiencing.

Without even reading your remarks AH, It is your burden of proof to back up your Racist statement about America.

Why, Pbel, I would think that you would want to share your research with us. Many of us here in Los Angeles have read very sad stories about how people are trying to bring their spouses in. Not only that, but many American-born kids are living without their fathers because their fathers are not allowed to waltz in here. Every country is allowed to have its own Immigration Laws sad as the results of this might be on individuals concerned..

Looks like Mr. Airhead Himself doesn't want to admit that he wasn't interested in the Palestinian Arabs starving in Syria. The Jews are not involved so why should he care. So tell us, Pbel, have you at least sent in some contribution to UNICEF as many Americans like me have done to help those unfortunate Syrian Arab children caught up in the mess in which it seem you are not interested.

 

[Hossfly]

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Since when has gaza and the west bank been in Israel, the last I heard was that gaza was hamas controlled and the west bank fatah controlled. Both of which are Palestinian political groups and are not Israeli. The tight borders keep the threat of attack to a minimum and arte there to protect all Israeli citizens. The Palestinians are not Israeli citizens by choice.
The settlements are built on Jewish owned land that the Jews have title deeds to. The military are occupying the west bank under the aegis of the Geneva conventions.

There were never any 1967 borders, no treaty to say that there were borders mutually agreed. What there was were a set of ceasefire lines were hostilities were halted.

Unless you can find a treaty signed by Israel agreeing to the borders of 1967 after the 6 day war ?

Frankly, if I needed fences to protect me from my neighbors, who were willing to strap bombs onto their children in an attempt to KILL ME, I'd seriously consider living somewhere else.

But I don't think that my property was promised to me by a Magic Sky Pixie.

i mean, you can come up with all sort of legal contrivances to try to rationalize what the Zionists are doing, but the fact is, most of the world rejects it and the UN has passed 43 Resolutions condemning Israel's actions.

The fact is the Palestinians are just psychopathic animals that live to mass murder, and before the fence was erected they bombed Israeli children all the time. If your neighbours were out to bomb you, you would do exactly what Israel is doing and stop them by any means at your disposal.
Neither was Israel it was promised by the LoN after WW1 as the NATIONAL HOME of the jews
Most of the world doesn't and care to name these 43 resolutions so we can see just what dastardly deeds Israel is supposed to have committed.

By the way the Palestinians believe that their big bad sky pixie gave then the world, which is why they love brainwashed morons who defend their bloodthirsty ways. Ring any bells ?

Joe would be well served to go to Gaza and spend a year with the people he defends. After growing a beard and forced to stop brushing his teeth, eating with and mingling with the un-washed, he would be more than glad to come back to the country he shits on every day.

 

[pbel]

Show us what you picked up, Pbel. Did you pick up anything where some American citizens can marry someone from any country South of the Board and then just waltz in right away with his wif?. And, Pbel, it is really a riot how hard you try to make people believe that you care about the Arabs. Where were you when it was reported that the Palestinian Arabs were starving in a camp in Syria and food wasn't allowed to go through?
Where were you even with one mention of what the unfortunate Arabs are underoing in Syria? All those tens of thousands killed, probably tens of thousands wounded, and two and a half million refugees, and mums the word with you because you can't drag in the Jews with the misfortunes these people are experiencing.

Without even reading your remarks AH, It is your burden of proof to back up your Racist statement about America.

Why, Pbel, I would think that you would want to share your research with us. Many of us here in Los Angeles have read very sad stories about how people are trying to bring their spouses in. Not only that, but many American-born kids are living without their fathers because their fathers are not allowed to waltz in here. Every country is allowed to have its own Immigration Laws sad as the results of this might be on individuals concerned..

Looks like Mr. Airhead Himself doesn't want to admit that he wasn't interested in the Palestinian Arabs starving in Syria. The Jews are not involved so why should he care. So tell us, Pbel, have you at least sent in some contribution to UNICEF as many Americans like me have done to help those unfortunate Syrian Arab children caught up in the mess in which it seem you are not interested.

If you were looking and could read Idiot I provided proof for 'ol Hoss many posts ago.

Go fetch, airhead!

 

[Sally]

Without even reading your remarks AH, It is your burden of proof to back up your Racist statement about America.

Why, Pbel, I would think that you would want to share your research with us. Many of us here in Los Angeles have read very sad stories about how people are trying to bring their spouses in. Not only that, but many American-born kids are living without their fathers because their fathers are not allowed to waltz in here. Every country is allowed to have its own Immigration Laws sad as the results of this might be on individuals concerned..

Looks like Mr. Airhead Himself doesn't want to admit that he wasn't interested in the Palestinian Arabs starving in Syria. The Jews are not involved so why should he care. So tell us, Pbel, have you at least sent in some contribution to UNICEF as many Americans like me have done to help those unfortunate Syrian Arab children caught up in the mess in which it seem you are not interested.

If you were looking and could read Idiot I provided proof for 'ol Hoss many posts ago.

Go fetch, airhead!

Well I must have missed that. Please provide it to me like a good little doggie, and along the way tell me how you are going about trying to get the U.S. to let the fathers of American-born kids come into this country. Are you telling them that you think the Immigration Laws suck when it comes to this and that you want it immediately changed and that the U.S. has no right to make any Immigration Laws.

Yes, we all know this Mr. Airhead is busy posting on a Middle East forum condemning what is happening to the Arabs in the rest of the Middle East, the same way we have seen him posting for years about what was happening in the Middle East (of course in between posting his silly poems, bringing up his coloring box, and fighting with other posters), so anything coming from him about the other Middle East countries was actually zilch.

 

[pbel]

Why, Pbel, I would think that you would want to share your research with us. Many of us here in Los Angeles have read very sad stories about how people are trying to bring their spouses in. Not only that, but many American-born kids are living without their fathers because their fathers are not allowed to waltz in here. Every country is allowed to have its own Immigration Laws sad as the results of this might be on individuals concerned..

Looks like Mr. Airhead Himself doesn't want to admit that he wasn't interested in the Palestinian Arabs starving in Syria. The Jews are not involved so why should he care. So tell us, Pbel, have you at least sent in some contribution to UNICEF as many Americans like me have done to help those unfortunate Syrian Arab children caught up in the mess in which it seem you are not interested.

If you were looking and could read Idiot I provided proof for 'ol Hoss many posts ago.

Go fetch, airhead!

Well I must have missed that. Please provide it to me like a good little doggie, and along the way tell me how you are going about trying to get the U.S. to let the fathers of American-born kids come into this country. Are you telling them that you think the Immigration Laws suck when it comes to this and that you want it immediately changed and that the U.S. has no right to make any Immigration Laws.

Yes, we all know this Mr. Airhead is busy posting on a Middle East forum condemning what is happening to the Arabs in the rest of the Middle East, the same way we have seen him posting for years about what was happening in the Middle East (of course in between posting his silly poems, bringing up his coloring box, and fighting with other posters), so anything coming from him about the other Middle East countries was actually zilch.

Blah, blah,Blah, blah,Blah, blah,Blah, blah,Blah, blah,Blah, blah,Blah, blah,Blah, blah, says the confirmed airhead liar.

 

[Indeependent]

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Wasn't Joshua tasked with a mission and also told not to let the people co-mingle with the unwashed? They never accused Joshua of apartheid. Damned if any of the Arabists here know beans about the subject.

Yeah, the Book of Joshua outright advocated genocide of the 'unwashed'.

In fact, there was this one part of the book where a city tricked Joshua into an alliance so he wouldn't murder the shit out of all of them, and joshua asked why they were doing this. 'Oh, because you are murdering everyone in your path".

Let's keep in mind, the whole rational behind Israel is that the Nazis did a bad to them.

Of course you convientley omit the verses where God explains to Moshe, and later to Yehoshua, the barbarism of the current residents of the Land of Canaan.