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[JoeB131]

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Of course it was a great victory for Israel. Not only were they outnumbered in ..... Well, everything, but they were attacked on all sides.
It's not like they were just fighting on one front.
They had to take care of Egypt in the Sinai, at the same time as They were fighting Syria in the Golan , which is completely opposite side from the Sinai.
That's an incredibly hard task, specially considering how small Israel is.

Yes, the old tiresome 'Look how small Israel is" complaint when they barely defeat impoverished countries that are much larger.

Jordan actually stayed out of the Yom Kippur war, which is kind of a pity. So they weren't attacked on "all sides".

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I love how Zionist Entity haters always bring up how the U.S sent support in the form of weapons to Israel, but they always leave out the fact that Egypt and Syria has support in the form of troops AND weapons from Iraq, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Cuba. Quite a detail to leave out.
But, being the ZEH (Zionist Entity Hater) that you are, you will always attempt to delegitimize any kind of success from Israel.

Israel's success in the Yom Kippur war resulted in OPEC finally saying, "**** the West" and raising the price of oil, causing the 1974 Oil Shock. I'm not sure why you think this is a good thing.

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You say that Israel gave back the Sinai because they knew they couldn't defend it. But you forgot to mention that they offered to return it to Egypt after the 6 day war, in exchange for a peace treaty but Egypt refused. And before you complain about the Golan, they offered it to Syria in exchange for a peace treaty, as well. But Syria instead signed the Khartoum Resolution: No peace with Israel, No recognition of Israel and no negotiations with Israel.

As for the rest of your post, it's nothing but a bunch of drivel and still doesn't change the fact that your country is full responsible for every aspect of those two wars, including commencing it.

Um, yeah, guy, you don't offer people peace treaties when they steal your shit.

this is what you all don't get. Sadat sold out his country to get the Sinai back, and they shot his ass for his troubles.

 

[JoeB131]

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"If....... Zionist co-Religionists didn't control our media"



Ah yes, the obligatory 'the Zionists control our media, so that's why .....' comment. Surprised it took you this long to use that as an excuse.

Just a valid observation.

Even the Times of Israel brags about this.

Jews DO control the media | Manny Friedman | Ops & Blogs | The Times of Israel



• CBS is owned by Murray Rothstein (aka Sumner Redstone).

• NBC is owned by Brian Roberts.

• ABC is owned by Sydney Bass with Robert Iger as CEO.

• CNN is primarily owned by Aviv Nevo.

Well, we have Faux News, but they are just batshit crazy without any prompting.

And so of course, in America, we get these fluff pieces about how wonderful and progressive Israel is, like propaganda bits about their "Women Warriors" and shit.

And in the rest of the world. OH, wait, they actually get to hear about the oppression of the Palestinians.

 

[toastman]

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Of course it was a great victory for Israel. Not only were they outnumbered in ..... Well, everything, but they were attacked on all sides.
It's not like they were just fighting on one front.
They had to take care of Egypt in the Sinai, at the same time as They were fighting Syria in the Golan , which is completely opposite side from the Sinai.
That's an incredibly hard task, specially considering how small Israel is.

Yes, the old tiresome 'Look how small Israel is" complaint when they barely defeat impoverished countries that are much larger.

Jordan actually stayed out of the Yom Kippur war, which is kind of a pity. So they weren't attacked on "all sides".

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I love how Zionist Entity haters always bring up how the U.S sent support in the form of weapons to Israel, but they always leave out the fact that Egypt and Syria has support in the form of troops AND weapons from Iraq, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Cuba. Quite a detail to leave out.
But, being the ZEH (Zionist Entity Hater) that you are, you will always attempt to delegitimize any kind of success from Israel.

Israel's success in the Yom Kippur war resulted in OPEC finally saying, "**** the West" and raising the price of oil, causing the 1974 Oil Shock. I'm not sure why you think this is a good thing.

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You say that Israel gave back the Sinai because they knew they couldn't defend it. But you forgot to mention that they offered to return it to Egypt after the 6 day war, in exchange for a peace treaty but Egypt refused. And before you complain about the Golan, they offered it to Syria in exchange for a peace treaty, as well. But Syria instead signed the Khartoum Resolution: No peace with Israel, No recognition of Israel and no negotiations with Israel.

As for the rest of your post, it's nothing but a bunch of drivel and still doesn't change the fact that your country is full responsible for every aspect of those two wars, including commencing it.

Um, yeah, guy, you don't offer people peace treaties when they steal your shit.

this is what you all don't get. Sadat sold out his country to get the Sinai back, and they shot his ass for his troubles.

Again, since you're a ZEH, you will say anything to make Israels victories look like nothing.
Impoverished countries?? Hardly.
Guy, Israel was 25 years old at the time.

Sadat didn't sell out his country, he made the right decision. He finally came to the realization that his country cannot defeat Israel.
What kind of a person thinks making peace with your neighbour is selling out your country?

 

[pbel]

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Of course it was a great victory for Israel. Not only were they outnumbered in ..... Well, everything, but they were attacked on all sides.
It's not like they were just fighting on one front.
They had to take care of Egypt in the Sinai, at the same time as They were fighting Syria in the Golan , which is completely opposite side from the Sinai.
That's an incredibly hard task, specially considering how small Israel is.

Yes, the old tiresome 'Look how small Israel is" complaint when they barely defeat impoverished countries that are much larger.

Jordan actually stayed out of the Yom Kippur war, which is kind of a pity. So they weren't attacked on "all sides".



Israel's success in the Yom Kippur war resulted in OPEC finally saying, "**** the West" and raising the price of oil, causing the 1974 Oil Shock. I'm not sure why you think this is a good thing.

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You say that Israel gave back the Sinai because they knew they couldn't defend it. But you forgot to mention that they offered to return it to Egypt after the 6 day war, in exchange for a peace treaty but Egypt refused. And before you complain about the Golan, they offered it to Syria in exchange for a peace treaty, as well. But Syria instead signed the Khartoum Resolution: No peace with Israel, No recognition of Israel and no negotiations with Israel.

As for the rest of your post, it's nothing but a bunch of drivel and still doesn't change the fact that your country is full responsible for every aspect of those two wars, including commencing it.

Um, yeah, guy, you don't offer people peace treaties when they steal your shit.

this is what you all don't get. Sadat sold out his country to get the Sinai back, and they shot his ass for his troubles.

Again, since you're a ZEH, you will say anything to make Israels victories look like nothing.
Impoverished countries?? Hardly.
Guy, Israel was 25 years old at the time.

Sadat didn't sell out his country, he made the right decision. He finally came to the realization that his country cannot defeat Israel.
What kind of a person thinks making peace with your neighbour is selling out your country?[/QUOTE]

Right Wing Nationalist ZioNazis that now rule Israel...

 

[toastman]

Yes, the old tiresome 'Look how small Israel is" complaint when they barely defeat impoverished countries that are much larger.

Jordan actually stayed out of the Yom Kippur war, which is kind of a pity. So they weren't attacked on "all sides".



Israel's success in the Yom Kippur war resulted in OPEC finally saying, "**** the West" and raising the price of oil, causing the 1974 Oil Shock. I'm not sure why you think this is a good thing.



Um, yeah, guy, you don't offer people peace treaties when they steal your shit.

this is what you all don't get. Sadat sold out his country to get the Sinai back, and they shot his ass for his troubles.

Again, since you're a ZEH, you will say anything to make Israels victories look like nothing.
Impoverished countries?? Hardly.
Guy, Israel was 25 years old at the time.

Sadat didn't sell out his country, he made the right decision. He finally came to the realization that his country cannot defeat Israel.
What kind of a person thinks making peace with your neighbour is selling out your country?[/QUOTE]

Right Wing Nationalist ZioNazis that now rule Israel...

But it is Israel that has made all those offers for peace: Offering back the Sinai, Golan for peace and making multiple offers to the Palestinians for peace.
Whoops! Forgot that , eh Peebel??

 

[toastman]

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"If....... Zionist co-Religionists didn't control our media"



Ah yes, the obligatory 'the Zionists control our media, so that's why .....' comment. Surprised it took you this long to use that as an excuse.

Just a valid observation.

Even the Times of Israel brags about this.

Jews DO control the media | Manny Friedman | Ops & Blogs | The Times of Israel



• CBS is owned by Murray Rothstein (aka Sumner Redstone).

• NBC is owned by Brian Roberts.

• ABC is owned by Sydney Bass with Robert Iger as CEO.

• CNN is primarily owned by Aviv Nevo.

Well, we have Faux News, but they are just batshit crazy without any prompting.

And so of course, in America, we get these fluff pieces about how wonderful and progressive Israel is, like propaganda bits about their "Women Warriors" and shit.

And in the rest of the world. OH, wait, they actually get to hear about the oppression of the Palestinians.

The fact that many Jews are in high positions in media does not translate to 'Zionist controlled media'. Nothing in that article suggests so.

If Christians were in high positions in the media instead of the Jews, do you think anyone would be talking about it?? Ask yourself that

 

[pbel]

Again, since you're a ZEH, you will say anything to make Israels victories look like nothing.
Impoverished countries?? Hardly.
Guy, Israel was 25 years old at the time.

Sadat didn't sell out his country, he made the right decision. He finally came to the realization that his country cannot defeat Israel.
What kind of a person thinks making peace with your neighbour is selling out your country?[/QUOTE]

Right Wing Nationalist ZioNazis that now rule Israel...

But it is Israel that has made all those offers for peace: Offering back the Sinai, Golan for peace and making multiple offers to the Palestinians for peace.
Whoops! Forgot that , eh Peebel??

I didn't forget the past...today they refuse to honor those offers because right wing zionazis rule/./. You agree with their platform, Toast?

 

[toastman]

But it is Israel that has made all those offers for peace: Offering back the Sinai, Golan for peace and making multiple offers to the Palestinians for peace.
Whoops! Forgot that , eh Peebel??

I didn't forget the past...today they refuse to honor those offers because right wing zionazis rule/./. You agree with their platform, Toast?

Ab, so because it's the past, it's irrelevant?
I'll make sure to bring that up when you PaliNazis bring up the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair etc.....

What platform Pbel? Be more specific?

 

[pbel]

I didn't forget the past...today they refuse to honor those offers because right wing zionazis rule/./. You agree with their platform, Toast?

Ab, so because it's the past, it's irrelevant?
I'll make sure to bring that up when you PaliNazis bring up the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair etc.....

What platform Pbel? Be more specific?

Your platform: Peace at the point of a gun until we take all the land we want...

 

[pbel]

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"If....... Zionist co-Religionists didn't control our media"



Ah yes, the obligatory 'the Zionists control our media, so that's why .....' comment. Surprised it took you this long to use that as an excuse.

Just a valid observation.

Even the Times of Israel brags about this.

Jews DO control the media | Manny Friedman | Ops & Blogs | The Times of Israel



• CBS is owned by Murray Rothstein (aka Sumner Redstone).

• NBC is owned by Brian Roberts.

• ABC is owned by Sydney Bass with Robert Iger as CEO.

• CNN is primarily owned by Aviv Nevo.

Well, we have Faux News, but they are just batshit crazy without any prompting.

And so of course, in America, we get these fluff pieces about how wonderful and progressive Israel is, like propaganda bits about their "Women Warriors" and shit.

And in the rest of the world. OH, wait, they actually get to hear about the oppression of the Palestinians.

The fact that many Jews are in high positions in media does not translate to 'Zionist controlled media'. Nothing in that article suggests so.

If Christians were in high positions in the media instead of the Jews, do you think anyone would be talking about it?? Ask yourself that

To me its not a Christian/Jewish question, but one of "the concentration of power" into a small groups that defeat democracy...Campaign finance laws would cure this deficiency.

 

[toastman]

Ab, so because it's the past, it's irrelevant?
I'll make sure to bring that up when you PaliNazis bring up the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair etc.....

What platform Pbel? Be more specific?

Your platform: Peace at the point of a gun until we take all the land we want...

No, I never said that.

 

[pbel]

Your platform: Peace at the point of a gun until we take all the land we want...

No, I never said that.

Then what do you say ad say it clearly?

 

[toastman]

No, I never said that.

Then what do you say ad say it clearly?

I'm confused. Whicb post are you refferring to?? Or are you just asking in general??

 

[JoeB131]

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Again, since you're a ZEH, you will say anything to make Israels victories look like nothing.
Impoverished countries?? Hardly.
Guy, Israel was 25 years old at the time.

Sadat didn't sell out his country, he made the right decision. He finally came to the realization that his country cannot defeat Israel.
What kind of a person thinks making peace with your neighbour is selling out your country?

Apparently, most of the Middle East. No statues of Sadat today.

Egypt and Syria are very poor countries. They are by category considered "Third WOrld".

 

[JoeB131]

But it is Israel that has made all those offers for peace: Offering back the Sinai, Golan for peace and making multiple offers to the Palestinians for peace.
Whoops! Forgot that , eh Peebel??

You mean after you steal someone's land, we'll let you have some of it back if you give us Peace.

The Arabs aren't going for that and you know it.

 

[toastman]

But it is Israel that has made all those offers for peace: Offering back the Sinai, Golan for peace and making multiple offers to the Palestinians for peace.
Whoops! Forgot that , eh Peebel??

You mean after you steal someone's land, we'll let you have some of it back if you give us Peace.

The Arabs aren't going for that and you know it.

When someone attacks you first, it's not called stealing.
But ya, that the only way the Golan will ever be returned.
Show me on example in history where a country who gained territory through conquest from their enemy , gave back the territory without a peace treaty of some sort?
I don't understand why you make it sound unbelievable.

 

[toastman]

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Again, since you're a ZEH, you will say anything to make Israels victories look like nothing.
Impoverished countries?? Hardly.
Guy, Israel was 25 years old at the time.

Sadat didn't sell out his country, he made the right decision. He finally came to the realization that his country cannot defeat Israel.
What kind of a person thinks making peace with your neighbour is selling out your country?

Apparently, most of the Middle East. No statues of Sadat today.

Egypt and Syria are very poor countries. They are by category considered "Third WOrld".

Israel wasn't exactly a rich country then. Regardless, nothing you have said backs up your comment that it was not much of a victory. Because it was. A miraculous one actually.
And no, I'm not just saying that because it's Israel, I'm saying it because it's the truth.

 

[JoeB131]

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Again, since you're a ZEH, you will say anything to make Israels victories look like nothing.
Impoverished countries?? Hardly.
Guy, Israel was 25 years old at the time.

Sadat didn't sell out his country, he made the right decision. He finally came to the realization that his country cannot defeat Israel.
What kind of a person thinks making peace with your neighbour is selling out your country?

Apparently, most of the Middle East. No statues of Sadat today.

Egypt and Syria are very poor countries. They are by category considered "Third WOrld".

Israel wasn't exactly a rich country then. Regardless, nothing you have said backs up your comment that it was not much of a victory. Because it was. A miraculous one actually.
And no, I'm not just saying that because it's Israel, I'm saying it because it's the truth.

beating up on poorly trained third world conscripts using second hand Soviet weapons...

After they got the drop on you with a surprise attack.

Meh, not that impressive. Of course, the US has had to bail the Zionist Entity out of that fight and every fight since.

 

[toastman]

Apparently, most of the Middle East. No statues of Sadat today.

Egypt and Syria are very poor countries. They are by category considered "Third WOrld".

Israel wasn't exactly a rich country then. Regardless, nothing you have said backs up your comment that it was not much of a victory. Because it was. A miraculous one actually.
And no, I'm not just saying that because it's Israel, I'm saying it because it's the truth.

beating up on poorly trained third world conscripts using second hand Soviet weapons...

After they got the drop on you with a surprise attack.

Meh, not that impressive. Of course, the US has had to bail the Zionist Entity out of that fight and every fight since.

I find it hard to believe that one person can be full of so much shit.

BTW, are you saying Israels weapons were much better??
You truly have no idea what you're talking about....

 

[RoccoR]

JoeB131, et al,

I'm a bit confused.

beating up on poorly trained third world conscripts using second hand Soviet weapons...

After they got the drop on you with a surprise attack.

(COMMENT)

There was no surprise attack (on the part of the Israelis).

Meh, not that impressive. Of course, the US has had to bail the Zionist Entity out of that fight and every fight since.

(COMMENT)

What do you mean here?

The US wasn't involved in any air, ground or sea action in support of the Israelis. Where did you get this?

Most Respectfully,
R