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[aris2chat]

Arabs have less rights than Jews.

Aparatheid.

Thanks for playing.

Yes they do have less rights in the Arab countries surrounding Israel. Israel has very tight borders and keeping the Arabs outside Israel is not apartheid. Inside Israel, fences around Gaza and the West bank is not apartheid, it's to keep brain fevered lunatics from committing death and destruction inside Israel proper. You're just pissed because your brethern can't operate in Israel.

Israel controls the land borders of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and most of Gaza, including territorial sea and air space. Just as South Africa controlled all of the borders of the Bantustans and Southwest Africa. It is Apartheid, it can't be anything else. How can you define it as anything else. And of course some of the people living under such a regime will resist by any means possible as allowed by International Law. Now, once that is understood, what's the peaceful solution?

Bantustans and Southwest Africa were still part of South Africa and were citizens. There lot is not much better even with the end of apartheid.
Palestinians are not citizens Have not applied for citizenship (a small percentage have). Don't want to be citizens. Don't want Israel to exist but want the same rights as Israelis?
A bit like separatists don't want government, don't want to pay taxes, don't want but still vote and take advantage of all emergency, infrastructure and social services that are part of government.
Palestinians expect to be a charity supported by Israel or the world but want no responsibilities of being a part of an Israeli state and sponge off all the benefits all the while trashing Israel both verbally and physically. They don't even seem to want the responsibilities of working for or negotiating for statehood. They can't even form a unity government as a palestinian authority or manage to hold election. It refused to participate in elections till 2006 legislative, won a majority of seats by default, but not the popular vote and refuses to allow elections since then.
Hamas does not allow equal right among the palestinians in gaza.
They certainly don't have rights in other nations of the middle east. They didn't have it with Jordan nor Egypt when they occupied the WB and gaza. Why do they think they have a right to the same with Israelis?

 

[toastman]

Israel controls the land borders of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and most of Gaza, including territorial sea and air space. Just as South Africa controlled all of the borders of the Bantustans and Southwest Africa. It is Apartheid, it can't be anything else. How can you define it as anything else. And of course some of the people living under such a regime will resist by any means possible as allowed by International Law. Now, once that is understood, what's the peaceful solution?

The citizens of those territories and E. Jerusalem are free to go anywhere they want, are able to work without impediment, travel, play soccer and everything under the sun. That's not apartheid.

You forget 'ol Hoss, that Israel was one of South Africa's allies and was the only major county with diplomatic ties with the Apartheid government...Also, Israel has a marriage law against her Arab citizens that prohibits them from marrying other Palestinians from the West Bank and bringing them back to Israel proper, that is Apartheid.

Oh, the horror!!!

Personally, I din't like that law, but it has NOTHING TO DO WITH APARTHEID.
It has to do with Israel wanting to preserve its Jewish character.

Either way, that does not warrant calling Israel an apartheid state.

 

[pbel]

The citizens of those territories and E. Jerusalem are free to go anywhere they want, are able to work without impediment, travel, play soccer and everything under the sun. That's not apartheid.

You forget 'ol Hoss, that Israel was one of South Africa's allies and was the only major county with diplomatic ties with the Apartheid government...Also, Israel has a marriage law against her Arab citizens that prohibits them from marrying other Palestinians from the West Bank and bringing them back to Israel proper, that is Apartheid.

Oh, the horror!!!

Personally, I din't like that law, but it has NOTHING TO DO WITH APARTHEID.
It has to do with Israel wanting to preserve its Jewish character.Either way, that does not warrant calling Israel an apartheid state.

Well, he said it folks: APARTHEID!!!

 

[Hossfly]

The citizens of those territories and E. Jerusalem are free to go anywhere they want, are able to work without impediment, travel, play soccer and everything under the sun. That's not apartheid.

You forget 'ol Hoss, that Israel was one of South Africa's allies and was the only major county with diplomatic ties with the Apartheid government...Also, Israel has a marriage law against her Arab citizens that prohibits them from marrying other Palestinians from the West Bank and bringing them back to Israel proper, that is Apartheid.

Oh, the horror!!!

Personally, I din't like that law, but it has NOTHING TO DO WITH APARTHEID.
It has to do with Israel wanting to preserve its Jewish character.

Either way, that does not warrant calling Israel an apartheid state.

Wasn't Joshua tasked with a mission and also told not to let the people co-mingle with the unwashed? They never accused Joshua of apartheid. Damned if any of the Arabists here know beans about the subject.

 

[pbel]

You forget 'ol Hoss, that Israel was one of South Africa's allies and was the only major county with diplomatic ties with the Apartheid government...Also, Israel has a marriage law against her Arab citizens that prohibits them from marrying other Palestinians from the West Bank and bringing them back to Israel proper, that is Apartheid.

Oh, the horror!!!

Personally, I din't like that law, but it has NOTHING TO DO WITH APARTHEID.
It has to do with Israel wanting to preserve its Jewish character.

Either way, that does not warrant calling Israel an apartheid state.

Wasn't Joshua tasked with a mission and also told not to let the people co-mingle with the unwashed? They never accused Joshua of apartheid. Damned if any of the Arabists here know beans about the subject.

Y'all right for once, Joshua slew ALL his enemies, torched their houses, killed the mules and uprooted the trees and crops...

Y'all right, no one was left to accuse him.

 

[toastman]

You forget 'ol Hoss, that Israel was one of South Africa's allies and was the only major county with diplomatic ties with the Apartheid government...Also, Israel has a marriage law against her Arab citizens that prohibits them from marrying other Palestinians from the West Bank and bringing them back to Israel proper, that is Apartheid.

Oh, the horror!!!

Personally, I din't like that law, but it has NOTHING TO DO WITH APARTHEID.
It has to do with Israel wanting to preserve its Jewish character.Either way, that does not warrant calling Israel an apartheid state.

Well, he said it folks: APARTHEID!!!

Call it what you want Pbel.
Israel is a tiny tiny country and the only Jewish country in the world.
Wanting to keep it like that does not constitute as apartheid.

BTW, does this mean that all countries with similar marriage laws are apartheid states as well??

 

[jillian]

You forget 'ol Hoss, that Israel was one of South Africa's allies and was the only major county with diplomatic ties with the Apartheid government...Also, Israel has a marriage law against her Arab citizens that prohibits them from marrying other Palestinians from the West Bank and bringing them back to Israel proper, that is Apartheid.

Oh, the horror!!!

Personally, I din't like that law, but it has NOTHING TO DO WITH APARTHEID.
It has to do with Israel wanting to preserve its Jewish character.Either way, that does not warrant calling Israel an apartheid state.

Well, he said it folks: APARTHEID!!!

no.he didn't. and why aren't you whining about the dozen apartheid arab countries?

 

[aris2chat]

Israel controls the land borders of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and most of Gaza, including territorial sea and air space. Just as South Africa controlled all of the borders of the Bantustans and Southwest Africa. It is Apartheid, it can't be anything else. How can you define it as anything else. And of course some of the people living under such a regime will resist by any means possible as allowed by International Law. Now, once that is understood, what's the peaceful solution?

The citizens of those territories and E. Jerusalem are free to go anywhere they want, are able to work without impediment, travel, play soccer and everything under the sun. That's not apartheid.

You forget 'ol Hoss, that Israel was one of South Africa's allies and was the only major county with diplomatic ties with the Apartheid government...Also, Israel has a marriage law against her Arab citizens that prohibits them from marrying other Palestinians from the West Bank and bringing them back to Israel proper, that is Apartheid.

Israel maintained business and political ties with SA in part out of necessity. To condemn Israel is a bit like blaming the US or EU for maintaining economic and political ties with half the nations in the world atrociously in violation of basic human rights. Israel has been and still is shunned by a third of the world. SA recognized Israel when other would not.
Although some sactions and embargo of certain items were imposed, the US and Europe did not cut all ties with SA. Why blame Israel?

 

[Sally]

Oh, the horror!!!

Personally, I din't like that law, but it has NOTHING TO DO WITH APARTHEID.
It has to do with Israel wanting to preserve its Jewish character.Either way, that does not warrant calling Israel an apartheid state.

Well, he said it folks: APARTHEID!!!

no.he didn't. and why aren't you whining about the dozen apartheid arab countries?

Since he is so concerned with marriages, I think he should protest with the American citizens who have Mexican roots and who have married Mexican citizens but can't bring their spouses into this country.

 

[aris2chat]

Oh, the horror!!!

Personally, I din't like that law, but it has NOTHING TO DO WITH APARTHEID.
It has to do with Israel wanting to preserve its Jewish character.

Either way, that does not warrant calling Israel an apartheid state.

Wasn't Joshua tasked with a mission and also told not to let the people co-mingle with the unwashed? They never accused Joshua of apartheid. Damned if any of the Arabists here know beans about the subject.

Y'all right for once, Joshua slew ALL his enemies, torched their houses, killed the mules and uprooted the trees and crops...

Y'all right, no one was left to accuse him.

yet Joshua is a prophet of Islam

 

[Sally]

If Israeli citizens are not living under apartheid rules then there cannot be any apartheid in Israel. Just where is the apartheid, Captain Knowledge?

Arabs have less rights than Jews.

Aparatheid.

Thanks for playing.

Yes they do have less rights in the Arab countries surrounding Israel. Israel has very tight borders and keeping the Arabs outside Israel is not apartheid. Inside Israel, fences around Gaza and the West bank is not apartheid, it's to keep brain fevered lunatics from committing death and destruction inside Israel proper. You're just pissed because your brethern can't operate in Israel.

Oh, Hossfly, you really think Joe cares about the Arabs? He is just using them. When I see Joe throwing around Zionist this and Zionist that (which is really the password for Jews today), it reminds me of an article like this.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...issues/2006/summer/extremism-and-the-military

 

[pbel]

Well, he said it folks: APARTHEID!!!

no.he didn't. and why aren't you whining about the dozen apartheid arab countries?

Since he is so concerned with marriages, I think he should protest with the American citizens who have Mexican roots and who have married Mexican citizens but can't bring their spouses into this country.

Provide a link Airhead.

 

[pbel]

Wasn't Joshua tasked with a mission and also told not to let the people co-mingle with the unwashed? They never accused Joshua of apartheid. Damned if any of the Arabists here know beans about the subject.

Y'all right for once, Joshua slew ALL his enemies, torched their houses, killed the mules and uprooted the trees and crops...

Y'all right, no one was left to accuse him.

yet Joshua is a prophet of Islam

Maybe that's where they learned to be brutal.

 

[pbel]

The citizens of those territories and E. Jerusalem are free to go anywhere they want, are able to work without impediment, travel, play soccer and everything under the sun. That's not apartheid.

You forget 'ol Hoss, that Israel was one of South Africa's allies and was the only major county with diplomatic ties with the Apartheid government...Also, Israel has a marriage law against her Arab citizens that prohibits them from marrying other Palestinians from the West Bank and bringing them back to Israel proper, that is Apartheid.

Israel maintained business and political ties with SA in part out of necessity. To condemn Israel is a bit like blaming the US or EU for maintaining economic and political ties with half the nations in the world atrociously in violation of basic human rights. Israel has been and still is shunned by a third of the world. SA recognized Israel when other would not.
Although some sactions and embargo of certain items were imposed, the US and Europe did not cut all ties with SA. Why blame Israel?

Answer one question Aris, were you ever a member of the Christian Phalange?

 

[Sally]

no.he didn't. and why aren't you whining about the dozen apartheid arab countries?

Since he is so concerned with marriages, I think he should protest with the American citizens who have Mexican roots and who have married Mexican citizens but can't bring their spouses into this country.

Provide a link Airhead.

I have to laugh with Pbel always asking for a link. Tell you what, Pbel. Since you are unmarried, why not go down to Mexico, woo a nice Mexican woman, marry her and see if you can straightaway waltz back into this country with her.

 

[pbel]

Since he is so concerned with marriages, I think he should protest with the American citizens who have Mexican roots and who have married Mexican citizens but can't bring their spouses into this country.

Provide a link Airhead.

I have to laugh with Pbel always asking for a link. Tell you what, Pbel. Since you are unmarried, why not go down to Mexico, woo a nice Mexican woman, marry her and see if you can straightaway waltz back into this country with her.

Provide that link and stop lying...

 

[Hossfly]

Provide a link Airhead.

I have to laugh with Pbel always asking for a link. Tell you what, Pbel. Since you are unmarried, why not go down to Mexico, woo a nice Mexican woman, marry her and see if you can straightaway waltz back into this country with her.

Provide that link and stop lying...

She ain't lying, Pbel. Just ask any Mexicans and they'll tell you the same. We have legal Mexican-Americans here who are married to women in Mexico and their wives can't come here. That's a fact

 

[pbel]

Provide a link Airhead.

I have to laugh with Pbel always asking for a link. Tell you what, Pbel. Since you are unmarried, why not go down to Mexico, woo a nice Mexican woman, marry her and see if you can straightaway waltz back into this country with her.

Provide that link and stop lying...

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[pbel]

I have to laugh with Pbel always asking for a link. Tell you what, Pbel. Since you are unmarried, why not go down to Mexico, woo a nice Mexican woman, marry her and see if you can straightaway waltz back into this country with her.

Provide that link and stop lying...

She ain't lying, Pbel. Just ask any Mexicans and they'll tell you the same. We have legal Mexican-Americans here who are married to women in Mexico and their wives can't come here. That's a fact

Provide a link...

 

[Hossfly]

Provide that link and stop lying...

She ain't lying, Pbel. Just ask any Mexicans and they'll tell you the same. We have legal Mexican-Americans here who are married to women in Mexico and their wives can't come here. That's a fact

Provide a link...

Hell no.