US Appeals court upholds Marylands unconstitutional ban on scary guns

[rich stacy]

And that makes them dangerous how? And not all SS cases reach a judge and even those judges don't decide over all competency. VA required my dad to appoint someone to handle his finances to qualify for certain benefits. That didn't make him dangerous.

Sometimes the Social Security Administration (SSA) will decide that it is in your best interest to have your benefit payments handled by someone else. This person, or organization, is called a representative payee. The administrative law judge (ALJ) that hears your Social Security disability case usually makes this decision and may discuss it with you during your hearing

Although the SSA decides who your representative payee is, at your hearing the ALJ may discuss with you whether you have any preferences about whom you would like, or not like, to handle your benefits.


Why Was a Representative Payee Assigned for Social Security Disability? | Disability Secrets

There is either a hearing in front of an ALJ or a state or federal court order that determined incompetency.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Weapons of war? Is the appeals court retarded? AR15's are not being used in any war by any branch of our military.

Personally I don't own an AR15 "assault" rifle, I own an AR15 defense rifle. If some murderous home invader punks break into my house I'll use the same rifles and pistols law enforcement use to protect themselves from these punks.

Mine is an AR style hog gun, it has an inferred scope because those suckers show up at night. So maybe a better name for it is a utility rifle, they have many uses.

These gun control assholes LIE that's my big issue with them. They can't make their case without lying, or they have no case without lying maybe that's why the lie. There was one of those assholes on ABC claiming the Sandyhook shooter used a full auto rifle which was a blatant lie.

That's what an ends justify the means mentality gets you. They attempt to redefine terms and control the narrative, accuracy means nothing. The incitement of emotions is their primary weapon. Rational people that look at the facts are their worse enemy and they will treat them as such.

"WASHINGTON —The House of Representatives approved its first effort of the new Congress to roll back gun regulations, voting to overturn a rule that would bar gun ownership by some who have been deemed mentally impaired by the Social Security Administration.

"The House voted 235-180 largely along party lines Thursday to repeal an Obama-era rule requiring the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries to the federal firearms background check system after they’ve been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs."

After the shooting of Congress Women Gabby Giffords there was a call by the NRA that gun control was bad, but keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill was good.

Now, the NRA supports efforts to do what they claimed was appropriate, and once again members of the GOP Caucus in Congress put their job security before common sense.

It should have included the VA, bureaucrats are not judges and have no authority to remove anyones constitutional rights for any reason. If someone is truly mentally ill to the point they present a danger to others, take them to court and have them adjudicated as such. Why do you want to deny your fellow citizens due process?

Because the truly dangerous mentally ill are not obvious, as can be seen by the events of the last couple of decades.

 

[danielpalos]

Yep....Naziland....

Now onto the new conservative SCOTUS......

A simple yes or no:

Do you, the reader, believe a military style fragmentation grenade should be sold in gun stores, as well as all other title II weapons, across America?

We should be able to have whatever the military has.

regular military is "made regular".

 

[danielpalos]

U.S. appeals court upholds Maryland's ban on assault rifles
A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld Maryland's ban on assault rifles, ruling gun owners are not protected under the U.S. Constitution to possess "weapons of war," court documents showed.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit decided 10-4 that the Firearm Safety Act of 2013, a law in response to the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, by a gunman with an assault rifle, does not violate the right to bear arms within the Second Amendment.
"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protection to the weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote

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Extend it? WTF is that supposed to mean?
I assume, for the sake of consistency and honor, those same people also don't think the first applies to the internet and phones? You know, because they cant "extend it?"
Or maybe any religion developed after 1787, doesn't get the same rights as one developed pre-Constitution?
IDK maybe that's not what it means

The whole point of the second amendment was to allow citizens to have weapons of war. You don't maintain a free State with pop guns.

not when gun lovers refuse to be necessary to the security of a free State by mustering.

When was the last time they were asked to?

all they need do, is volunteer, dear.

 

[danielpalos]

Settled 2nd Amendment case law.

Second Amendment | Law Library of Congress

Sanctuary cities are all that stand between gun lovers and federal supremacy regarding 10USC311.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Weapons of war? Is the appeals court retarded? AR15's are not being used in any war by any branch of our military.

Personally I don't own an AR15 "assault" rifle, I own an AR15 defense rifle. If some murderous home invader punks break into my house I'll use the same rifles and pistols law enforcement use to protect themselves from these punks.

Mine is an AR style hog gun, it has an inferred scope because those suckers show up at night. So maybe a better name for it is a utility rifle, they have many uses.

These gun control assholes LIE that's my big issue with them. They can't make their case without lying, or they have no case without lying maybe that's why the lie. There was one of those assholes on ABC claiming the Sandyhook shooter used a full auto rifle which was a blatant lie.

That's what an ends justify the means mentality gets you. They attempt to redefine terms and control the narrative, accuracy means nothing. The incitement of emotions is their primary weapon. Rational people that look at the facts are their worse enemy and they will treat them as such.

Here are the means, the ends have been overruled by The Congress:

Federal Law on Mental Health Reporting | Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

Settled 2nd Amendment case law.

Second Amendment | Law Library of Congress

Sanctuary cities are all that stand between gun lovers and federal supremacy regarding 10USC311.

The only thing that stands between you and AIDS is a condom, flake.

The circuit ruling will be appealed to the SCOTUS and be vacated after Gorsuch is seated. Now go hit the poll at your local gay bar and DNC affiliate.

 

[OKTexas]

And that makes them dangerous how? And not all SS cases reach a judge and even those judges don't decide over all competency. VA required my dad to appoint someone to handle his finances to qualify for certain benefits. That didn't make him dangerous.

Sometimes the Social Security Administration (SSA) will decide that it is in your best interest to have your benefit payments handled by someone else. This person, or organization, is called a representative payee. The administrative law judge (ALJ) that hears your Social Security disability case usually makes this decision and may discuss it with you during your hearing

Although the SSA decides who your representative payee is, at your hearing the ALJ may discuss with you whether you have any preferences about whom you would like, or not like, to handle your benefits.


Why Was a Representative Payee Assigned for Social Security Disability? | Disability Secrets

There is either a hearing in front of an ALJ or a state or federal court order that determined incompetency.

Wow, if they are so damned mentally ill, why would the judge discuss anything with them? Thanks, you just proved my point.

 

[OKTexas]

Mine is an AR style hog gun, it has an inferred scope because those suckers show up at night. So maybe a better name for it is a utility rifle, they have many uses.

These gun control assholes LIE that's my big issue with them. They can't make their case without lying, or they have no case without lying maybe that's why the lie. There was one of those assholes on ABC claiming the Sandyhook shooter used a full auto rifle which was a blatant lie.

That's what an ends justify the means mentality gets you. They attempt to redefine terms and control the narrative, accuracy means nothing. The incitement of emotions is their primary weapon. Rational people that look at the facts are their worse enemy and they will treat them as such.

"WASHINGTON —The House of Representatives approved its first effort of the new Congress to roll back gun regulations, voting to overturn a rule that would bar gun ownership by some who have been deemed mentally impaired by the Social Security Administration.

"The House voted 235-180 largely along party lines Thursday to repeal an Obama-era rule requiring the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries to the federal firearms background check system after they’ve been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs."

After the shooting of Congress Women Gabby Giffords there was a call by the NRA that gun control was bad, but keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill was good.

Now, the NRA supports efforts to do what they claimed was appropriate, and once again members of the GOP Caucus in Congress put their job security before common sense.

It should have included the VA, bureaucrats are not judges and have no authority to remove anyones constitutional rights for any reason. If someone is truly mentally ill to the point they present a danger to others, take them to court and have them adjudicated as such. Why do you want to deny your fellow citizens due process?

Because the truly dangerous mentally ill are not obvious, as can be seen by the events of the last couple of decades.

The idiot who inspired this law was know to his mother and others to be wacko. She knew he had the combination to her gun safe, why didn't she change it? She and the public officials that ignored her pleas for help are responsible for New Town. Now you folks want to punish every law abiding citizen in the country for their mistakes, it doesn't work that way hero. This court ignored the "weapons in common use" standard established in Heller and they will be overturned.

 

[there4eyeM]

What is the attraction of an AR15 if it is no different from any other rifle of the same caliber?

I think probably just the magazine.

By the way, all "assault rifles" are modified so they can't be fired automatically before they are sold, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Despite claims to the contrary, the AR 15 is essentially a semi-auto M16, which has a selector to go from semi- to full. They take the same clip (magazine).

 

[OKTexas]

U.S. appeals court upholds Maryland's ban on assault rifles
A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld Maryland's ban on assault rifles, ruling gun owners are not protected under the U.S. Constitution to possess "weapons of war," court documents showed.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit decided 10-4 that the Firearm Safety Act of 2013, a law in response to the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, by a gunman with an assault rifle, does not violate the right to bear arms within the Second Amendment.
"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protection to the weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote

---------
Extend it? WTF is that supposed to mean?
I assume, for the sake of consistency and honor, those same people also don't think the first applies to the internet and phones? You know, because they cant "extend it?"
Or maybe any religion developed after 1787, doesn't get the same rights as one developed pre-Constitution?
IDK maybe that's not what it means

The whole point of the second amendment was to allow citizens to have weapons of war. You don't maintain a free State with pop guns.

not when gun lovers refuse to be necessary to the security of a free State by mustering.

When was the last time they were asked to?

all they need do, is volunteer, dear.

I did, I carry a military ID so STFU.

 

[rich stacy]

Wow, if they are so damned mentally ill, why would the judge discuss anything with them? Thanks, you just proved my point.

The judge is obligated by law to give the recipient a hearing. That fact was lost on you. Nobody is declared incompetent to handle their own finances without a state, federal or ALJ making that determination.

 

[rich stacy]

Despite claims to the contrary, the AR 15 is essentially a semi-auto M16, which has a selector to go from semi- to full. They take the same clip (magazine).

The current M16 is not full-auto.

 

[BluesLegend]

Mine is an AR style hog gun, it has an inferred scope because those suckers show up at night. So maybe a better name for it is a utility rifle, they have many uses.

These gun control assholes LIE that's my big issue with them. They can't make their case without lying, or they have no case without lying maybe that's why the lie. There was one of those assholes on ABC claiming the Sandyhook shooter used a full auto rifle which was a blatant lie.

That's what an ends justify the means mentality gets you. They attempt to redefine terms and control the narrative, accuracy means nothing. The incitement of emotions is their primary weapon. Rational people that look at the facts are their worse enemy and they will treat them as such.

"WASHINGTON —The House of Representatives approved its first effort of the new Congress to roll back gun regulations, voting to overturn a rule that would bar gun ownership by some who have been deemed mentally impaired by the Social Security Administration.

"The House voted 235-180 largely along party lines Thursday to repeal an Obama-era rule requiring the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries to the federal firearms background check system after they’ve been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs."

After the shooting of Congress Women Gabby Giffords there was a call by the NRA that gun control was bad, but keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill was good.

Now, the NRA supports efforts to do what they claimed was appropriate, and once again members of the GOP Caucus in Congress put their job security before common sense.

It should have included the VA, bureaucrats are not judges and have no authority to remove anyones constitutional rights for any reason. If someone is truly mentally ill to the point they present a danger to others, take them to court and have them adjudicated as such. Why do you want to deny your fellow citizens due process?

Because the truly dangerous mentally ill are not obvious, as can be seen by the events of the last couple of decades.

Millions of law abiding citizens should have their 2nd amendment rights taken away because a handful of crazy nut jobs might go on a shooting spree?

 

[Dr Grump]

it should only come up, if you have to defend your rights in Court.

I believe inalienable rights were invented by gun lovers say they could keep their peashooters. Where did you get your definition from? Is it written into law somewhere? I like killing cats. It makes me happy. I do it privately and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy and safe. I like beating up cripples. It makes me happy. I like this inalienable right thing....

 

[there4eyeM]

What is the attraction of an AR15 if it is no different from any other rifle of the same caliber?

I think probably just the magazine.

By the way, all "assault rifles" are modified so they can't be fired automatically before they are sold, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong.

So, it's a hunting rifle with a big clip. One needs 30 rounds to hunt bear and dear? A double barrel shotgun is more than adequate. So what is so seductive about this military-look/copy firearm?

 

[BluesLegend]

These gun control assholes LIE that's my big issue with them. They can't make their case without lying, or they have no case without lying maybe that's why the lie. There was one of those assholes on ABC claiming the Sandyhook shooter used a full auto rifle which was a blatant lie.

That's what an ends justify the means mentality gets you. They attempt to redefine terms and control the narrative, accuracy means nothing. The incitement of emotions is their primary weapon. Rational people that look at the facts are their worse enemy and they will treat them as such.

"WASHINGTON —The House of Representatives approved its first effort of the new Congress to roll back gun regulations, voting to overturn a rule that would bar gun ownership by some who have been deemed mentally impaired by the Social Security Administration.

"The House voted 235-180 largely along party lines Thursday to repeal an Obama-era rule requiring the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries to the federal firearms background check system after they’ve been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs."

After the shooting of Congress Women Gabby Giffords there was a call by the NRA that gun control was bad, but keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill was good.

Now, the NRA supports efforts to do what they claimed was appropriate, and once again members of the GOP Caucus in Congress put their job security before common sense.

It should have included the VA, bureaucrats are not judges and have no authority to remove anyones constitutional rights for any reason. If someone is truly mentally ill to the point they present a danger to others, take them to court and have them adjudicated as such. Why do you want to deny your fellow citizens due process?

Because the truly dangerous mentally ill are not obvious, as can be seen by the events of the last couple of decades.

The idiot who inspired this law was know to his mother and others to be wacko. She knew he had the combination to her gun safe, why didn't she change it? She and the public officials that ignored her pleas for help are responsible for New Town. Now you folks want to punish every law abiding citizen in the country for their mistakes, it doesn't work that way hero. This court ignored the "weapons in common use" standard established in Heller and they will be overturned.

Gun control advocates wanted to ban guns before New Town. That has always been their goal. They are not reacting to New Town they are exploiting New Town.

This dishonesty is why gun control advocates need to be defeated, not bargained with. You can't compromise with gun control advocates because they are liars. If you give an inch they will come right back at you for another inch and another. They have no interest in compromise.

 

[OKTexas]

Weapons of war? Is the appeals court retarded? AR15's are not being used in any war by any branch of our military.

Personally I don't own an AR15 "assault" rifle, I own an AR15 defense rifle. If some murderous home invader punks break into my house I'll use the same rifles and pistols law enforcement use to protect themselves from these punks.

Mine is an AR style hog gun, it has an inferred scope because those suckers show up at night. So maybe a better name for it is a utility rifle, they have many uses.

These gun control assholes LIE that's my big issue with them. They can't make their case without lying, or they have no case without lying maybe that's why the lie. There was one of those assholes on ABC claiming the Sandyhook shooter used a full auto rifle which was a blatant lie.

That's what an ends justify the means mentality gets you. They attempt to redefine terms and control the narrative, accuracy means nothing. The incitement of emotions is their primary weapon. Rational people that look at the facts are their worse enemy and they will treat them as such.

Here are the means, the ends have been overruled by The Congress:

Federal Law on Mental Health Reporting | Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

You got anything form a less biased site?

 

[Cellblock2429]

U.S. appeals court upholds Maryland's ban on assault rifles
A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld Maryland's ban on assault rifles, ruling gun owners are not protected under the U.S. Constitution to possess "weapons of war," court documents showed.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit decided 10-4 that the Firearm Safety Act of 2013, a law in response to the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, by a gunman with an assault rifle, does not violate the right to bear arms within the Second Amendment.
"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protection to the weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote

---------
Extend it? WTF is that supposed to mean?
I assume, for the sake of consistency and honor, those same people also don't think the first applies to the internet and phones? You know, because they cant "extend it?"
Or maybe any religion developed after 1787, doesn't get the same rights as one developed pre-Constitution?
IDK maybe that's not what it means

/---- Rush pointed out today that this is how Hildabeast would have gutted the 2nd Amendment with her pick for the USSC. Basically any firearm ever used by the military would be banned. Thank God Trump won.

 

[OKTexas]

What is the attraction of an AR15 if it is no different from any other rifle of the same caliber?

I think probably just the magazine.

By the way, all "assault rifles" are modified so they can't be fired automatically before they are sold, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Despite claims to the contrary, the AR 15 is essentially a semi-auto M16, which has a selector to go from semi- to full. They take the same clip (magazine).

Let's just ignore they're not the same, the standard AR is made from lower grade materials, most have different rifling in the barrel and doesn't have the same rate of fire. Mine didn't even come with the same sights.