Union Boss salaries- They have a lot in common with the people they represent

Union Boss salaries- They have a lot in common with the people they represent


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yes the 1%

Michael J. Sullivan, general president of the Sheet Metal Workers’ International Association
Salary: $1,043,023

Robert A. Scardelletti, international president of the Transportation Communications Union
Salary: $748,531

Newton B. Jones, president of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers
Salary: $607,022

Terence M. O’Sullivan, general president of the Laborers’ International Union of North America
Salary: $589,124

John T. Niccollai, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, Local 464A
Salary: $532,752

Gerald McEntee, international president of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees
Salary: $512,369

Compared to CEO salaries, you mean?

The Pay at the Top - The New York Times

Viacom Philippe P. Dauman $84,000,000

Occidental Petroleum Ray R. Irani $76,000,000

Oracle Lawrence J. Ellison $70.1 million.

In what universe do you believe a CEO is not going to get paid???

They're the heads of businesses worth hundreds of billions...

They're almost like free agent star athletes - but in the business world.

I don't see people bitching when Lebron James signs a $100,000,000 deal.
 
Union Boss salaries- They have a lot in common with the people they represent


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yes the 1%

Michael J. Sullivan, general president of the Sheet Metal Workers’ International Association
Salary: $1,043,023

Robert A. Scardelletti, international president of the Transportation Communications Union
Salary: $748,531

Newton B. Jones, president of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers
Salary: $607,022

Terence M. O’Sullivan, general president of the Laborers’ International Union of North America
Salary: $589,124

John T. Niccollai, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, Local 464A
Salary: $532,752

Gerald McEntee, international president of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees
Salary: $512,369

Compared to CEO salaries, you mean?

The Pay at the Top - The New York Times

Viacom Philippe P. Dauman $84,000,000

Occidental Petroleum Ray R. Irani $76,000,000

Oracle Lawrence J. Ellison $70.1 million.

In what universe do you believe a CEO is not going to get paid???

They're the heads of businesses worth hundreds of billions...

They're almost like free agent star athletes - but in the business world.

I don't see people bitching when Lebron James signs a $100,000,000 deal.

Obviously you nailed it, but don't expect to get through to the mind-numbed Socialists/Progressives. They have their story and they're stickin to it. They're just Bots now.
 
Join a Union if you want. Just don't force others to. Many want to keep as much of their hard-earned paycheck as possible. Their Families come first. Paying off Union Bosses along with Big Brother every week, can take a sizeable bite out of peoples' paychecks. Unions need to end their thuggish coercive tactics. No one should be forced to join a Union. Let the People decide. That's the American way.

You'll be happy to know that no one is forced to join a union. You can dry your eyes now
 
Join a Union if you want. Just don't force others to. Many want to keep as much of their hard-earned paycheck as possible. Their Families come first. Paying off Union Bosses along with Big Brother every week, can take a sizeable bite out of peoples' paychecks. Unions need to end their thuggish coercive tactics. No one should be forced to join a Union. Let the People decide. That's the American way.

You'll be happy to know that no one is forced to join a union. You can dry your eyes now

Many are forced by way of violent coercion. Unions have been known for this for many many years. If Unions are so wonderful, they shouldn't have to be forced on the People. Just allow the People to decide for themselves. Like i said, you want to give a chunk of your paycheck to Union Bosses and Big Brother, by all means go for it. Just don't demand others do it too.
 
Join a Union if you want. Just don't force others to. Many want to keep as much of their hard-earned paycheck as possible. Their Families come first. Paying off Union Bosses along with Big Brother every week, can take a sizeable bite out of peoples' paychecks. Unions need to end their thuggish coercive tactics. No one should be forced to join a Union. Let the People decide. That's the American way.

You'll be happy to know that no one is forced to join a union. You can dry your eyes now

Many are forced by way of violent coercion. Unions have been known for this for many many years. If Unions are so wonderful, they shouldn't have to be forced on the People. Just allow the People to decide for themselves. Like i said, you want to give a chunk of your paycheck to Union Bosses and Big Brother, by all means go for it. Just don't demand others do it too.

No matter what your dreams are You'll be happy to know that no one is forced to join a union. You can dry your eyes now
 
You'll be happy to know that no one is forced to join a union. You can dry your eyes now

Many are forced by way of violent coercion. Unions have been known for this for many many years. If Unions are so wonderful, they shouldn't have to be forced on the People. Just allow the People to decide for themselves. Like i said, you want to give a chunk of your paycheck to Union Bosses and Big Brother, by all means go for it. Just don't demand others do it too.

No matter what your dreams are You'll be happy to know that no one is forced to join a union. You can dry your eyes now

Really? Then why do Unions loathe 'Right To Work States' and why do they exist?:eusa_whistle:
 
Many are forced by way of violent coercion. Unions have been known for this for many many years. If Unions are so wonderful, they shouldn't have to be forced on the People. Just allow the People to decide for themselves. Like i said, you want to give a chunk of your paycheck to Union Bosses and Big Brother, by all means go for it. Just don't demand others do it too.

No matter what your dreams are You'll be happy to know that no one is forced to join a union. You can dry your eyes now

Really? Then why do Unions loathe 'Right To Work States' and why do they exist?:eusa_whistle:

Just another Socialist/Progressive wingnut living in denial. Unions have been using violent coercion for years. Anyone with an ounce of honesty & sanity knows this. I always ask the wingnuts, if your Unions are so wonderful, why do you have to force workers to join? If they really are so wonderful, the People will decide to join.

Most common sense thinking people know they need to hang onto as much of their hard-earned paycheck as possible. Handing more of their paycheck over to corrupt strangers makes very little sense. Big Brother already has his hands in their pockets as it is. There's no need to allow Union Bosses in their pockets too. Unions have already seen their glory days. Those days have long since passed. Now the next step is to phase out Public Unions. They've raped the American Taxpayers for far too long. They're time is up.
 
There are a number of charities that I refuse to support, including the United Way, because of the obscene salaries being paid to the executives of those organizations. I cannot equate charity as getting rich off the backs of those who need the money and services far more.

And yes, the salaries paid to many CEOs of large corporations raise eyebrows except for the almost impossible skill sets necessary to effectively manage those same large corporations, but also cannot help but promote being in bed with politicians who have the power to benefit those corporations with contracts or favorable legislation. More insidious is strapping the company with insane golden parachutes and unconscionable bonuses that do nothing to benefit the business but drain its resourvces.

And the salaries of union bosses cannot help but promote thuggish behavior to enhance the union and protect the jobs of those bosses. Most especially when they set up pension plans to ensure that they will enjoy living in the lap of luxury for the rest of their lives at the expense of the union and the companies unfortunate enough to have the union.
 
There are a number of charities that I refuse to support, including the United Way, because of the obscene salaries being paid to the executives of those organizations. I cannot equate getting rich off the backs of those who need the money and services far more.

And yes, the salaries paid to many CEOs of large corporations raise eyebrows except for the almost impossible skill sets necessary to effectively manage those same large corporations, but also cannot help but promote being in bed with politicians who have the power to benefit those corporations with contracts or favorable legislation. More insidious is strapping the company with insane golden parachutes and unconscionable bonuses that do nothing to benefit the business but drain its resourvces.

And the salaries of union bosses cannot help but promote thuggish behavior to enhance the union and protect the jobs of those bosses. Most especially when they set up pension plans to ensure that they will enjoy living in the lap of luxury for the rest of their lives at the expense of the union and the companies unfortunate enough to have the union.

Best charities on Earth are the Churches. That simple.
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There are a number of charities that I refuse to support, including the United Way, because of the obscene salaries being paid to the executives of those organizations. I cannot equate getting rich off the backs of those who need the money and services far more.

And yes, the salaries paid to many CEOs of large corporations raise eyebrows except for the almost impossible skill sets necessary to effectively manage those same large corporations, but also cannot help but promote being in bed with politicians who have the power to benefit those corporations with contracts or favorable legislation. More insidious is strapping the company with insane golden parachutes and unconscionable bonuses that do nothing to benefit the business but drain its resourvces.

And the salaries of union bosses cannot help but promote thuggish behavior to enhance the union and protect the jobs of those bosses. Most especially when they set up pension plans to ensure that they will enjoy living in the lap of luxury for the rest of their lives at the expense of the union and the companies unfortunate enough to have the union.

Best charities on Earth are the Churches. That simple.
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There are a number of charities who do a good job and that don't include enriching those in leadership but merely pay them a living wage. And even all churches aren't all that efficient with their money, but many do very good thngs. Certainly most of the true hands on relief to some of the worlds poorest people is delivered by Christian groups. Far too much so-called relief provided by governments, including the USA, is confiscatedf and serves mostly to enrich corrupt government leaders and warlords.

It all comes down to consideration of what skill sets are necessary to do the job and what it is worth. I personally believe I have excellent skills and savvy to run a small business or medium sized organization and have done so effectively. That in no way extrapolates into the savvy and ability to run a General Electric or Intel.

But a union boss who derives his salary from the dues the guys on the line are forced to pay is in a different category. Do those guys have a say in what the union boss's salarly is? They do get to vote on their leadership, but in some of the more authoritarian unions, they also know that if they vote wrongly and for the unsuccessful candidate, there could be very unpleasant consequences for that. Many unions have become their own little dictatorships ruling by fear and terrorist tactics rather than as service organizations on behalf of the working guy.

And we might as well mention the obscene salaries pulled down by performing stars, movie actors at the top of their game, sports figures, and media figures. Why is that not also a problem to those who rail against high corporate salaries?
 
I keep on seeing posters using "union thugs", now of that isn't painting a picture with a broad brush, then nothing is.
Most people who belong to unions go to work, perform their job, go home to their families, go to church and live full productive lives just like non-union workers
"Union thugs"? Hardly.
 
I keep on seeing posters using "union thugs", now of that isn't painting a picture with a broad brush, then nothing is.
Most people who belong to unions go to work, perform their job, go home to their families, go to church and live full productive lives just like non-union workers
"Union thugs"? Hardly.

Unions have been violently thuggish in forcing workers to join Unions for many years. You want to play dumb on that, it's cool with me. But i know you're full of shite. If Unions are so wonderful, why do they have to force people to join? Think about that for a bit.
 
I keep on seeing posters using "union thugs", now of that isn't painting a picture with a broad brush, then nothing is.
Most people who belong to unions go to work, perform their job, go home to their families, go to church and live full productive lives just like non-union workers
"Union thugs"? Hardly.

Unions have been violently thuggish in forcing workers to join Unions for many years. You want to play dumb on that, it's cool with me. But i know you're full of shite. If Unions are so wonderful, why do they have to force people to join? Think about that for a bit.

Kiwiman is correct that all unions are not thuggish. Many, mostly smaller localized unions, actually do provide the service that unions were originally created to provide.

Kiwiman, however, is very naive and short sighted if he thinks there are not many unions that deserve the label of thuggish.
 
I keep on seeing posters using "union thugs", now of that isn't painting a picture with a broad brush, then nothing is.
Most people who belong to unions go to work, perform their job, go home to their families, go to church and live full productive lives just like non-union workers
"Union thugs"? Hardly.

Unions have been violently thuggish in forcing workers to join Unions for many years. You want to play dumb on that, it's cool with me. But i know you're full of shite. If Unions are so wonderful, why do they have to force people to join? Think about that for a bit.

And does that make those who were forced to join unions,,"union thugs"? Thanks for making my point!
Now go back and read all the posts that paint all union members as "union thugs"! These posters don't differentiate between those lines.
 
I keep on seeing posters using "union thugs", now of that isn't painting a picture with a broad brush, then nothing is.
Most people who belong to unions go to work, perform their job, go home to their families, go to church and live full productive lives just like non-union workers
"Union thugs"? Hardly.

Unions have been violently thuggish in forcing workers to join Unions for many years. You want to play dumb on that, it's cool with me. But i know you're full of shite. If Unions are so wonderful, why do they have to force people to join? Think about that for a bit.

Kiwiman is correct that all unions are not thuggish. Many, mostly smaller localized unions, actually do provide the service that unions were originally created to provide.

Kiwiman, however, is very naive and short sighted if he thinks there are not many unions that deserve the label of thuggish.

But I have never applied that. Sure there are "union thugs" out there, but really, those people would be in the minority. I would care to bet that less 10% than all union members would fall under the "union thugs" description. There's about 15 million union members in the US, I highly doubt that there is even 150,000 that could be classified as "union thugs", thusly making "union thugs" less than 1%.
 
Many are forced by way of violent coercion. Unions have been known for this for many many years. If Unions are so wonderful, they shouldn't have to be forced on the People. Just allow the People to decide for themselves. Like i said, you want to give a chunk of your paycheck to Union Bosses and Big Brother, by all means go for it. Just don't demand others do it too.

No matter what your dreams are You'll be happy to know that no one is forced to join a union. You can dry your eyes now

Really? Then why do Unions loathe 'Right To Work States' and why do they exist?:eusa_whistle:

You'll be happy to know that loathing is not forcing anyone to join a union. You can dry your eyes now
 
Unions have been violently thuggish in forcing workers to join Unions for many years. You want to play dumb on that, it's cool with me. But i know you're full of shite. If Unions are so wonderful, why do they have to force people to join? Think about that for a bit.

Kiwiman is correct that all unions are not thuggish. Many, mostly smaller localized unions, actually do provide the service that unions were originally created to provide.

Kiwiman, however, is very naive and short sighted if he thinks there are not many unions that deserve the label of thuggish.

But I have never applied that. Sure there are "union thugs" out there, but really, those people would be in the minority. I would care to bet that less 10% than all union members would fall under the "union thugs" description. There's about 15 million union members in the US, I highly doubt that there is even 150,000 that could be classified as "union thugs", thusly making "union thugs" less than 1%.

You could have a point, but the face of the unions we mostly see on the evening news are Tea Party spokespersons being bullied at rallies, violence against any who dare cross picket lines, mini riots, vandalism, and threats. And organized demonstrations and rallies protesting any right-to-work efforts. A recall election against a governor who dared to reform a government union that would not compromise and was hellbent in driving the government into bankruptcy.

That would not be the case if it were not for so many willing to obey the bidding of the union bosses. And those who spam the internet boards with defense and applause for the unions regardless of what should be questionable or offensive activities.

And that doesn't even count the crimes the union bosses commit against their own members. What is it, eight now? of the most recent Teamster bosses have been criminally indicted?

Also the union bosses being in bed with the Obama Administration is not doing ANYTHING to improve their image.
 
And thanks for bringing up the Tea Party, seems to me that the lefties jumped all over the very few who displayed racial signs at the rallies and labeled all Tea Party participants as racist. Of course the finger-pointers were wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
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I keep on seeing posters using "union thugs", now of that isn't painting a picture with a broad brush, then nothing is.
Most people who belong to unions go to work, perform their job, go home to their families, go to church and live full productive lives just like non-union workers
"Union thugs"? Hardly.

You are right but you left out one thing.
They ALL turn a blind eye when the few in their ranks use physical force on "scabs", hard working folks that want a job, never complain when their dues go to Democratic candidates ONLY and always support any union worker in any grievance no matter how terrible it is.
A union worker can attack and maim another union worker on the job and what does the union do? Support fully 100% the one that is the attacker even after they have been convicted.
Please show me where any of this union THUGGERY happens in non union companies.
 
And thanks for bringing up the Tea Party, seems to me that the lefties jumped all over the very few who displayed racial signs at the rallies and labeled all Tea Party participants as racist. Of course the finger-pointers were wrong, wrong, wrong.

And yes, that would be a comparable image IF racist signs at Tea Party rallies were the norm or common. They aren't. In fact, the very few signs that were claimed to be racist Tea Party signs were highly unlikely to be carried by Tea Partiers. That was certainly the case here in New Mexico when a couple of people carrying objectionable signs and doing their damndest to get them in front of the TV cameras were confronted. They were not known to ANY of the rest of us and they refused to identify themselves. You can draw your own conclusions.

Tea Partiers are NOT tolerant of those who do not respect the intent and purpose of the Tea Party. They do accept and embrace ALL from every walk of life, including union people, who DO respect the intent and purpose of the Tea Party.

But unfortunately, most organized public union events contain inflammatory and threatening language, and include confronting and harrassing people, and bullying tactics. And that does legitimately taint the image of the unions.

I agree, most union guys and gals are just hardworking, law abiding, non violent people. But the public face they tolerate from their unions is not acceptable to most Americans.
 
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