Understanding whites

[Correll]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

 

[IM2]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And this is the type of ignorant ass false equivalence that destroy any attempt to erase racism.

Who has more authority, the guy in that idiots picture or:

 

[Skieler]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

You are one racist SICK puppy.

 

[IM2]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

You are one racist SICK puppy.

He's no racist. You just think you can holler racist at every black person who talks about white racism.

 

[Skieler]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And this is the type of ignorant ass false equivalence that destroy any attempt to erase racism.

Yeah that guy using his size to terrorize and beat on a woman is the worst for sure. Surprised he didn't find a baby to whomp on.

 

[IM2]

What do you guys say?

 

[IM2]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And this is the type of ignorant ass false equivalence that destroy any attempt to erase racism.

Yeah that guy using his size to terrorize and beat on a woman is the worst for sure. Surprised he didn't find a baby to whomp on.

But he is in no position of authority and got arrested. But what about this guy?

 

[Skieler]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

You are one racist SICK puppy.

He's no racist. You just think you can holler racist at every black person who talks about white racism.

LOL guessing the guy in the street advocating killing white babies isn't either huh? Do you racists even know the meaning of double standard? I mean just because you have so much hatred built up inside doesn't mean you shouldn't take a close look at yourself in the mirror once in a while. Although I realize it doesn't fit your narrative, racism can't be fixed unless everyone is willing to look at themselves objectively and see the part they play in it as well. All you're doing is creating more division. In other words you're not part of the solution...you're part of the problem.

 

[Zander]

tl:dr

Filed in same category as:

Fat people smell.

Blacks can't swim.

Jews have big noses.

 

[IM2]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

You are one racist SICK puppy.

He's no racist. You just think you can holler racist at every black person who talks about white racism.

LOL guessing the guy in the street advocating killing white babies isn't either huh? Do you racists even know the meaning of double standard? I mean just because you have so much hatred built up inside doesn't mean you shouldn't take a close look at yourself in the mirror once in a while. Although I realize it doesn't fit your narrative, racism can't be fixed unless everyone is willing to look at themselves objectively and see the part they play in it as well. All you're doing is creating more division. In other words you're not part of the solution...you're part of the problem.

Yeah, I know the meaning of double standard. It means a bunch of whites who do nothing but get into forums making racist comments, touting racist stereotypes and falsehoods about blacks calling bacs who speak to the truth of what you do racists. We aren't t he ones have the problem looking in the mirror idiot. We all can post pictures.

In 2015 according t the UCR whites made up 66 percent of all arrests for crimes against families. That includes domestic violence. Look in the mirror at yourselves first.

 

[IM2]

tl:dr

Filed in same category as:

Fat people smell.

Blacks can't swim.

Jews have big noses.

More false equivalences.

 

[Correll]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And this is the type of ignorant ass false equivalence that destroy any attempt to erase racism.

Who has more authority, the guy in that idiots picture or:

Paul claimed that blacks can't be racist because they are never in a position of power, or "authority".

My example points out that that is utterly incorrect.

As, I made no counter claim that whites can't be racist because they are never in positions of power or "Authority" your post his completely moot.


My refutation of Paul's claim stands. Blacks are often in positions to be racist towards whites, as demonstrated by my example.


I can give more examples if requested.

 

[Correll]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

You are one racist SICK puppy.

He's no racist. You just think you can holler racist at every black person who talks about white racism.

Oh, he's certainly a racist. And so are you.

 

[Correll]

What do you guys say?

Wow. YOu really think WE are losing this debate?

Or ANY debate with you in it?


LOL!!!!!!

 

[LOIE]

You don't get to make up what racism is. What I said was true, you whites here are making excuses for yourselves going back 500 years. You are the one making racist statement because you are making you comments based on false hoods. top of t hat you are referring to all blacks, I was referring to whites posting here. So you don't get to makeup what racism is because that is just exactly what you did. .I've run businesses. So here is your challenge:

Prove when racism ended and its effects were allayed. Show, with data and peer-reviewed studies supporting your argument, when the effects of the hundreds of years of anti-Black racism from chattel slavery through Old Jim Crow leveled off. Show when the wealth expropriated during that oppression was repaid to those it was expropriated from and through. And remember, after you’ve addressed the end of anti-Black racism you’ll still have to explain when anti-Latinx, anti-Asian, anti-Arab, and anti-Native racism came to an end as well.

.

Same goes for anti-Polish, anti-Italian, anti-Hillbilly, anti-Jewish, anti-German, and anti-French prejudices in the U.S

No, because we are talking about racism, not prejudice and all these people are white.

What's so different about one who thinks of Poles as dumb, Italians as mafia, or Germans as Nazis, as opposed to one who views Blacks as such?

Yeah, there's a major difference.
Anti-White prejudices is more tolerated in this society, it's more rampant in the media, and there's no sensitivity training to combat it.

I see the difference as this - the things you mentioned are negative generalizations of a group of people that may be held by certain individuals within a society. But not only have powerful people in America held certain views of Black folks - they have written into their law that they are less than human and spent years oppressing them, discriminating against them, and criminalizing their very existence. I heard a klansman say on TV, "They were never intended to be our equal." Although, as has been mentioned on this thread, they hypocritically wrote on paper that ALL men were created equal.

The KKK also had anti-Catholic views in the early 20th century, due to millions of White Catholics immigrating to the U.S from Italy, Ireland, and Poland etc.

Furthermore there were government prejudiced comments regarding some Whites in the U.S, in the early 20th century.

History of the Poles in the United States - Wikipedia

A United States Congress Joint Immigration Commission study prepared on Polish Americans cited similar studies and said Poles were undesirable immigrants because of their "inherently unstable personalities".[100] In a historical text examining Poland, Nevin Winter described in 1913 that "an extremeness in temperament is a characteristic of the Slav" and asserting this view as an inborn and unchangeable personality trait in Poles as well as Russians.[101][discuss] Future U.S. President Woodrow Wilson called Poles, Hungarians, and Italians, in his 1902 History of the American People, "men of the meaner sort" who possessed "neither skill nor energy nor any initiative of quick intelligence." He later called these groups less preferable than the Chinese immigrants.[102] Wilson later apologized, and met publicly with Polish-American leaders.[103] The 1916 book The Passing of the Great Race similarly drew on intelligence studies of immigrants such as the Poles to argue that American civilization was in decline and society as a whole would suffer from a steady increase in inferior intelligence.[104]

The point being they were immigrants, not brought here by force and enslaved. And were any of them lynched?

 

[LOIE]

You don't get to make up what racism is. What I said was true, you whites here are making excuses for yourselves going back 500 years. You are the one making racist statement because you are making you comments based on false hoods. top of t hat you are referring to all blacks, I was referring to whites posting here. So you don't get to makeup what racism is because that is just exactly what you did. .I've run businesses. So here is your challenge:

Prove when racism ended and its effects were allayed. Show, with data and peer-reviewed studies supporting your argument, when the effects of the hundreds of years of anti-Black racism from chattel slavery through Old Jim Crow leveled off. Show when the wealth expropriated during that oppression was repaid to those it was expropriated from and through. And remember, after you’ve addressed the end of anti-Black racism you’ll still have to explain when anti-Latinx, anti-Asian, anti-Arab, and anti-Native racism came to an end as well.

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Same goes for anti-Polish, anti-Italian, anti-Hillbilly, anti-Jewish, anti-German, and anti-French prejudices in the U.S

No, because we are talking about racism, not prejudice and all these people are white.

What's so different about one who thinks of Poles as dumb, Italians as mafia, or Germans as Nazis, as opposed to one who views Blacks as such?

Yeah, there's a major difference.
Anti-White prejudices is more tolerated in this society, it's more rampant in the media, and there's no sensitivity training to combat it.[/QUOTE

but you have also consistently failed to produce laws and policies designed to deny you of opportunities by non whites based upon those perceptions. And that's to be expected from a stormfront trooper.

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There were no laws put into place in the post Civil War North to particularly hold back Blacks, or White Catholics, or Jews.

There was however Liberty to deny jobs, or housing to such groups

Which did in fact happen to all those groups.

But, now, laws have been set in place to support any group which is denied housing, or jobs.

Furthermore there's Affirmative Action to prop up minorities, but Polish men at least can't take advantage of that

Outright discriminatory laws have been changed, thanks to people fighting for their rights. But people's thoughts and attitudes often remain the same and the bad vibes that go out create friction.

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

I totally agree. I believe that people of any color can have prejudices and preferences and call people names and even hate and despise them. That in itself does not make them racist. I agree that racism is systemic, not individual.

In the book "The Priesthood of all Believers" James Luther Adams refers to the "principality of pigment." He states that the more this principality favors the people of one pigment, the more it engenders resentment and resistance at the hands of the people of other pigments.

I believe we all know which pigment has been historically treated as the favored one.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Same goes for anti-Polish, anti-Italian, anti-Hillbilly, anti-Jewish, anti-German, and anti-French prejudices in the U.S

No, because we are talking about racism, not prejudice and all these people are white.

What's so different about one who thinks of Poles as dumb, Italians as mafia, or Germans as Nazis, as opposed to one who views Blacks as such?

Yeah, there's a major difference.
Anti-White prejudices is more tolerated in this society, it's more rampant in the media, and there's no sensitivity training to combat it.

I see the difference as this - the things you mentioned are negative generalizations of a group of people that may be held by certain individuals within a society. But not only have powerful people in America held certain views of Black folks - they have written into their law that they are less than human and spent years oppressing them, discriminating against them, and criminalizing their very existence. I heard a klansman say on TV, "They were never intended to be our equal." Although, as has been mentioned on this thread, they hypocritically wrote on paper that ALL men were created equal.

The KKK also had anti-Catholic views in the early 20th century, due to millions of White Catholics immigrating to the U.S from Italy, Ireland, and Poland etc.

Furthermore there were government prejudiced comments regarding some Whites in the U.S, in the early 20th century.

History of the Poles in the United States - Wikipedia

A United States Congress Joint Immigration Commission study prepared on Polish Americans cited similar studies and said Poles were undesirable immigrants because of their "inherently unstable personalities".[100] In a historical text examining Poland, Nevin Winter described in 1913 that "an extremeness in temperament is a characteristic of the Slav" and asserting this view as an inborn and unchangeable personality trait in Poles as well as Russians.[101][discuss] Future U.S. President Woodrow Wilson called Poles, Hungarians, and Italians, in his 1902 History of the American People, "men of the meaner sort" who possessed "neither skill nor energy nor any initiative of quick intelligence." He later called these groups less preferable than the Chinese immigrants.[102] Wilson later apologized, and met publicly with Polish-American leaders.[103] The 1916 book The Passing of the Great Race similarly drew on intelligence studies of immigrants such as the Poles to argue that American civilization was in decline and society as a whole would suffer from a steady increase in inferior intelligence.[104]

The point being they were immigrants, not brought here by force and enslaved. And were any of them lynched?

The biggest single lynching was of Italians.

 

[LOIE]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

You are one racist SICK puppy.

He's no racist. You just think you can holler racist at every black person who talks about white racism.

LOL guessing the guy in the street advocating killing white babies isn't either huh? Do you racists even know the meaning of double standard? I mean just because you have so much hatred built up inside doesn't mean you shouldn't take a close look at yourself in the mirror once in a while. Although I realize it doesn't fit your narrative, racism can't be fixed unless everyone is willing to look at themselves objectively and see the part they play in it as well. All you're doing is creating more division. In other words you're not part of the solution...you're part of the problem.

I believe there is a difference between anger and hatred. Pointing out the truth as one sees it may stir up emotions, but it does not always signify anger. Most of us have been angry at our spouses and our children. We get angry at something they do or say. But we not not hate them.

 

[Skieler]

Same goes for anti-Polish, anti-Italian, anti-Hillbilly, anti-Jewish, anti-German, and anti-French prejudices in the U.S

No, because we are talking about racism, not prejudice and all these people are white.

What's so different about one who thinks of Poles as dumb, Italians as mafia, or Germans as Nazis, as opposed to one who views Blacks as such?

Yeah, there's a major difference.
Anti-White prejudices is more tolerated in this society, it's more rampant in the media, and there's no sensitivity training to combat it.[/QUOTE

but you have also consistently failed to produce laws and policies designed to deny you of opportunities by non whites based upon those perceptions. And that's to be expected from a stormfront trooper.

.

There were no laws put into place in the post Civil War North to particularly hold back Blacks, or White Catholics, or Jews.

There was however Liberty to deny jobs, or housing to such groups

Which did in fact happen to all those groups.

But, now, laws have been set in place to support any group which is denied housing, or jobs.

Furthermore there's Affirmative Action to prop up minorities, but Polish men at least can't take advantage of that

Outright discriminatory laws have been changed, thanks to people fighting for their rights. But people's thoughts and attitudes often remain the same and the bad vibes that go out create friction.

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

I totally agree. I believe that people of any color can have prejudices and preferences and call people names and even hate and despise them. That in itself does not make them racist. I agree that racism is systemic, not individual.

In the book "The Priesthood of all Believers" James Luther Adams refers to the "principality of pigment." He states that the more this principality favors the people of one pigment, the more it engenders resentment and resistance at the hands of the people of other pigments.

I believe we all know which pigment has been historically treated as the favored one.

Nah sorry, I don't get the distinction. No matter how you try to justify it, hate is hate. You can mince words all you like but if you hate someone that you have never even met as a person or on an individual basis and are simply judging them strictly by their race or skin color, then you by definition are a racist.

 

[baileyn45]

I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist

OK. This is the main point. So racism should not exist. Right ? And what is your definition of racism ? Because often when black and white people talk about racism. They are not talking about the same thing.

Personally, it's just judging or treating people differently just because of the color of their skin or ethnic background.