Understanding whites

[LOIE]

No, because we are talking about racism, not prejudice and all these people are white.

What's so different about one who thinks of Poles as dumb, Italians as mafia, or Germans as Nazis, as opposed to one who views Blacks as such?

Yeah, there's a major difference.
Anti-White prejudices is more tolerated in this society, it's more rampant in the media, and there's no sensitivity training to combat it.[/QUOTE

but you have also consistently failed to produce laws and policies designed to deny you of opportunities by non whites based upon those perceptions. And that's to be expected from a stormfront trooper.

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There were no laws put into place in the post Civil War North to particularly hold back Blacks, or White Catholics, or Jews.

There was however Liberty to deny jobs, or housing to such groups

Which did in fact happen to all those groups.

But, now, laws have been set in place to support any group which is denied housing, or jobs.

Furthermore there's Affirmative Action to prop up minorities, but Polish men at least can't take advantage of that

Outright discriminatory laws have been changed, thanks to people fighting for their rights. But people's thoughts and attitudes often remain the same and the bad vibes that go out create friction.

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

I totally agree. I believe that people of any color can have prejudices and preferences and call people names and even hate and despise them. That in itself does not make them racist. I agree that racism is systemic, not individual.

In the book "The Priesthood of all Believers" James Luther Adams refers to the "principality of pigment." He states that the more this principality favors the people of one pigment, the more it engenders resentment and resistance at the hands of the people of other pigments.

I believe we all know which pigment has been historically treated as the favored one.

Nah sorry, I don't get the distinction. No matter how you try to justify it, hate is hate. You can mince words all you like but if you hate someone that you have never even met as a person or on an individual basis and are simply judging them strictly by their race or skin color, then you by definition are a racist.

Here's the distinction: anger is defined as a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure or hostility. Hatred is defined as intense dislike or ill will. I can be angry at someone and not hate them. I can be angry at someone I like and have no ill will against them. They are not the same.

When someone writes something we don't like, we can easily say they are full of hate, but it may be a misinterpretation coming from something we already have in our own mind.

 

[IM2]

No, because we are talking about racism, not prejudice and all these people are white.

What's so different about one who thinks of Poles as dumb, Italians as mafia, or Germans as Nazis, as opposed to one who views Blacks as such?

Yeah, there's a major difference.
Anti-White prejudices is more tolerated in this society, it's more rampant in the media, and there's no sensitivity training to combat it.[/QUOTE

but you have also consistently failed to produce laws and policies designed to deny you of opportunities by non whites based upon those perceptions. And that's to be expected from a stormfront trooper.

.

There were no laws put into place in the post Civil War North to particularly hold back Blacks, or White Catholics, or Jews.

There was however Liberty to deny jobs, or housing to such groups

Which did in fact happen to all those groups.

But, now, laws have been set in place to support any group which is denied housing, or jobs.

Furthermore there's Affirmative Action to prop up minorities, but Polish men at least can't take advantage of that

Outright discriminatory laws have been changed, thanks to people fighting for their rights. But people's thoughts and attitudes often remain the same and the bad vibes that go out create friction.

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

I totally agree. I believe that people of any color can have prejudices and preferences and call people names and even hate and despise them. That in itself does not make them racist. I agree that racism is systemic, not individual.

In the book "The Priesthood of all Believers" James Luther Adams refers to the "principality of pigment." He states that the more this principality favors the people of one pigment, the more it engenders resentment and resistance at the hands of the people of other pigments.

I believe we all know which pigment has been historically treated as the favored one.

Nah sorry, I don't get the distinction. No matter how you try to justify it, hate is hate. You can mince words all you like but if you hate someone that you have never even met as a person or on an individual basis and are simply judging them strictly by their race or skin color, then you by definition are a racist.

The problem here is that number one you apply this only when blacks are talking about whites and not vice versa. Number 2, no one black here has stated any hatred of whites. We have pointed out that whites have enacted laws and policies that are racist, and that racism exists today and it's institutionalized within our system. These are facts.

 

[IM2]

No, because we are talking about racism, not prejudice and all these people are white.

What's so different about one who thinks of Poles as dumb, Italians as mafia, or Germans as Nazis, as opposed to one who views Blacks as such?

Yeah, there's a major difference.
Anti-White prejudices is more tolerated in this society, it's more rampant in the media, and there's no sensitivity training to combat it.

I see the difference as this - the things you mentioned are negative generalizations of a group of people that may be held by certain individuals within a society. But not only have powerful people in America held certain views of Black folks - they have written into their law that they are less than human and spent years oppressing them, discriminating against them, and criminalizing their very existence. I heard a klansman say on TV, "They were never intended to be our equal." Although, as has been mentioned on this thread, they hypocritically wrote on paper that ALL men were created equal.

The KKK also had anti-Catholic views in the early 20th century, due to millions of White Catholics immigrating to the U.S from Italy, Ireland, and Poland etc.

Furthermore there were government prejudiced comments regarding some Whites in the U.S, in the early 20th century.

History of the Poles in the United States - Wikipedia

A United States Congress Joint Immigration Commission study prepared on Polish Americans cited similar studies and said Poles were undesirable immigrants because of their "inherently unstable personalities".[100] In a historical text examining Poland, Nevin Winter described in 1913 that "an extremeness in temperament is a characteristic of the Slav" and asserting this view as an inborn and unchangeable personality trait in Poles as well as Russians.[101][discuss] Future U.S. President Woodrow Wilson called Poles, Hungarians, and Italians, in his 1902 History of the American People, "men of the meaner sort" who possessed "neither skill nor energy nor any initiative of quick intelligence." He later called these groups less preferable than the Chinese immigrants.[102] Wilson later apologized, and met publicly with Polish-American leaders.[103] The 1916 book The Passing of the Great Race similarly drew on intelligence studies of immigrants such as the Poles to argue that American civilization was in decline and society as a whole would suffer from a steady increase in inferior intelligence.[104]

The point being they were immigrants, not brought here by force and enslaved. And were any of them lynched?

The biggest single lynching was of Italians.

Don't be disingenuous. You are talking about one day, The most number of people lynched in this nation were not Italians.

 

[IM2]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And this is the type of ignorant ass false equivalence that destroy any attempt to erase racism.

Who has more authority, the guy in that idiots picture or:

Paul claimed that blacks can't be racist because they are never in a position of power, or "authority".

My example points out that that is utterly incorrect.

As, I made no counter claim that whites can't be racist because they are never in positions of power or "Authority" your post his completely moot.


My refutation of Paul's claim stands. Blacks are often in positions to be racist towards whites, as demonstrated by my example.


I can give more examples if requested.

No you can't. But what you will do is post up a picture then claim it's racism. For example what happens if in that picture the woman was his girlfriend? Or maybe he's hitting her because she made a racial slur. You don't know what happened and you post up a random picture of a black guy hitting a white person, claim he is in authority and is expressing racism. But one thing you will not be able to do is post up any law or policy made by blacks that deny whites rights or opportunities. You can try your little false race pimped argument about affirmative action all you want, but a white man is the one who created and signed that executive order. I've been kicking you guys ass all over USMB son. You guys have consistently lost which is why you call me a racist.

 

[Skieler]

What's so different about one who thinks of Poles as dumb, Italians as mafia, or Germans as Nazis, as opposed to one who views Blacks as such?

Yeah, there's a major difference.
Anti-White prejudices is more tolerated in this society, it's more rampant in the media, and there's no sensitivity training to combat it.[/QUOTE

but you have also consistently failed to produce laws and policies designed to deny you of opportunities by non whites based upon those perceptions. And that's to be expected from a stormfront trooper.

.

There were no laws put into place in the post Civil War North to particularly hold back Blacks, or White Catholics, or Jews.

There was however Liberty to deny jobs, or housing to such groups

Which did in fact happen to all those groups.

But, now, laws have been set in place to support any group which is denied housing, or jobs.

Furthermore there's Affirmative Action to prop up minorities, but Polish men at least can't take advantage of that

Outright discriminatory laws have been changed, thanks to people fighting for their rights. But people's thoughts and attitudes often remain the same and the bad vibes that go out create friction.

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

I totally agree. I believe that people of any color can have prejudices and preferences and call people names and even hate and despise them. That in itself does not make them racist. I agree that racism is systemic, not individual.

In the book "The Priesthood of all Believers" James Luther Adams refers to the "principality of pigment." He states that the more this principality favors the people of one pigment, the more it engenders resentment and resistance at the hands of the people of other pigments.

I believe we all know which pigment has been historically treated as the favored one.

Nah sorry, I don't get the distinction. No matter how you try to justify it, hate is hate. You can mince words all you like but if you hate someone that you have never even met as a person or on an individual basis and are simply judging them strictly by their race or skin color, then you by definition are a racist.

Here's the distinction: anger is defined as a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure or hostility. Hatred is defined as intense dislike or ill will. I can be angry at someone and not hate them. I can be angry at someone I like and have no ill will against them. They are not the same.

When someone writes something we don't like, we can easily say they are full of hate, but it may be a misinterpretation coming from something we already have in our own mind.

Spoken like a true liberal who believes in the law of double standards above all else. Personally I'm sick of that whining mentality and don't give a rat's ass about those who just want to sit around living on entitlement programs getting high all day feeling sorry for themselves while blaming everyone else for their poor lifestyles basically kicking that old worn out can of excuses down the road to justify their laziness. This while others in the black community ignore that defeatist attitude and have their noses to the grind stone getting an education so they will one day be successful and move up in the world. Most people, even whites weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and therefore have to do the same...so you have two choices, you can sit around crying expecting to be coddled or you can pick your ass up and hit the books. I mean everyone can get school grants these days so there really is no excuse anymore.

 

[Skieler]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And this is the type of ignorant ass false equivalence that destroy any attempt to erase racism.

Who has more authority, the guy in that idiots picture or:

Paul claimed that blacks can't be racist because they are never in a position of power, or "authority".

My example points out that that is utterly incorrect.

As, I made no counter claim that whites can't be racist because they are never in positions of power or "Authority" your post his completely moot.


My refutation of Paul's claim stands. Blacks are often in positions to be racist towards whites, as demonstrated by my example.


I can give more examples if requested.

No you can't. But what you will do is post up a picture then claim it's racism. For example what happens if in that picture the woman was his girlfriend? Or maybe he's hitting her because she made a racial slur. You don't know what happened and you post up a random picture of a black guy hitting a white person, claim he is in authority and is expressing racism. But one thing you will not be able to do is post up any law or policy made by blacks that deny whites rights or opportunities. You can try your little false race pimped argument about affirmative action all you want, but a white man is the one who created and signed that executive order. I've been kicking you guys ass all over USMB son. You guys have consistently lost which is why you call me a racist.

ROFLMAO...again you stuck your foot in your mouth. THERE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE FOR A MAN BEATING ON A WOMAN. Doesn't matter if she's his girlfriend or if she slung a hundred racial slurs. Words are never enough to elicit that type of behavior either.

 

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When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And this is the type of ignorant ass false equivalence that destroy any attempt to erase racism.

Who has more authority, the guy in that idiots picture or:

Paul claimed that blacks can't be racist because they are never in a position of power, or "authority".

My example points out that that is utterly incorrect.

As, I made no counter claim that whites can't be racist because they are never in positions of power or "Authority" your post his completely moot.


My refutation of Paul's claim stands. Blacks are often in positions to be racist towards whites, as demonstrated by my example.


I can give more examples if requested.

No you can't. But what you will do is post up a picture then claim it's racism. For example what happens if in that picture the woman was his girlfriend? Or maybe he's hitting her because she made a racial slur. You don't know what happened and you post up a random picture of a black guy hitting a white person, claim he is in authority and is expressing racism. But one thing you will not be able to do is post up any law or policy made by blacks that deny whites rights or opportunities. You can try your little false race pimped argument about affirmative action all you want, but a white man is the one who created and signed that executive order. I've been kicking you guys ass all over USMB son. You guys have consistently lost which is why you call me a racist.

ROFLMAO...again you stuck your foot in your mouth. THERE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE FOR A MAN BEATING ON A WOMAN. Doesn't matter if she's his girlfriend or if she slung a hundred racial slurs. Words are never enough to elicit that type of behavior either.

And if you could read then you don't see me making any excuses. I'm pointing out that tis picture is no indication of black racism, blacks being in authority or anything else Essen was talking about. Don't lecture me about words. You white folks fight over words and much less.

 

[IM2]

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There were no laws put into place in the post Civil War North to particularly hold back Blacks, or White Catholics, or Jews.

There was however Liberty to deny jobs, or housing to such groups

Which did in fact happen to all those groups.

But, now, laws have been set in place to support any group which is denied housing, or jobs.

Furthermore there's Affirmative Action to prop up minorities, but Polish men at least can't take advantage of that

Outright discriminatory laws have been changed, thanks to people fighting for their rights. But people's thoughts and attitudes often remain the same and the bad vibes that go out create friction.

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

I totally agree. I believe that people of any color can have prejudices and preferences and call people names and even hate and despise them. That in itself does not make them racist. I agree that racism is systemic, not individual.

In the book "The Priesthood of all Believers" James Luther Adams refers to the "principality of pigment." He states that the more this principality favors the people of one pigment, the more it engenders resentment and resistance at the hands of the people of other pigments.

I believe we all know which pigment has been historically treated as the favored one.

Nah sorry, I don't get the distinction. No matter how you try to justify it, hate is hate. You can mince words all you like but if you hate someone that you have never even met as a person or on an individual basis and are simply judging them strictly by their race or skin color, then you by definition are a racist.

Here's the distinction: anger is defined as a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure or hostility. Hatred is defined as intense dislike or ill will. I can be angry at someone and not hate them. I can be angry at someone I like and have no ill will against them. They are not the same.

When someone writes something we don't like, we can easily say they are full of hate, but it may be a misinterpretation coming from something we already have in our own mind.

Spoken like a true liberal who believes in the law of double standards above all else. Personally I'm sick of that whining mentality and don't give a rat's ass about those who just want to sit around living on entitlement programs getting high all day feeling sorry for themselves while blaming everyone else for their poor lifestyles basically kicking that old worn out can of excuses down the road to justify their laziness. This while others in the black community ignore that defeatist attitude and have their noses to the grind stone getting an education so they will one day be successful and move up in the world. Most people, even whites weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and therefore have to do the same...so you have two choices, you can sit around crying expecting to be coddled or you can pick your ass up and hit the books. I mean everyone can get school grants these days so there really is no excuse anymore.

Apparently you are tired of being white then. I have a masters degree in sociology bitch. I have 32 years of work in my field of study. Shut the fuck up.

 

[MizMolly]

White people aren't big on hugs and crying. They focus their attention on their own accomplishments. It makes them appear insensitive. If we are honest, we will acknowledge that white people really are selfish and insensitive. It is part of their heritage and their culture. White people were forced to live on feudal lands. The landlord came by once a year to collect their rent. The serfs got to keep the remainder. If they had bad luck or didn't work hard, they starved. If they had good luck or worked hard, they ended up living in luxury. The hard working and/or the lucky lived to reproduce. The unlucky and/or the lazy died. There was absolutely no community to fall back on. Over the generations they learned to be tough and insensitive for their own survival. They have been conditioned for centuries to be productive, lucky, selfish and insensitive. When you ask them to show empathy, they are probably willing to fake it for some political, social or financial benefit. If you want them to feel empathy then you are pretty much out of luck. Lip service isn't empathy. I'm sure you can get some white people to cower down and say uncle to avoid the harsh punishment of being called a racist. That doesn't mean they are sincere. It just means that they are typical selfish white people that feel uncomfortable with being labeled a racist. You are really asking too much of them when you ask them to be empathetic. Cut them some slack. This is who they are as a people. They are lucky, hard working, successful, productive, selfish and insensitive. You need to lower your expectations of white people or you are setting yourself up to be disappointed. White people are different. They don't think the same way. Their cruel heritage has molded them into who they are. Just as the cruel heritage of others has molded them into who they are. Cut white people some slack. They have something to offer as well. White people aren’t bad. They are just different.

Who is this really...Obama? Al Sharpton? Louis Farrakhan? Black Lives Matter? One thing's for sure, you sure as hell aren't white.

My race is irrelevant to the discussion. Europeans have a different history than Africans. The cultural differences of white people is fairly obvious and consistent with modern America. American whites have a mindset that is similar to European traditions.

Can you point out my incorrect assessment of white cultural history?

So, you are implying that all white people are alike?

 

[IM2]

White people aren't big on hugs and crying. They focus their attention on their own accomplishments. It makes them appear insensitive. If we are honest, we will acknowledge that white people really are selfish and insensitive. It is part of their heritage and their culture. White people were forced to live on feudal lands. The landlord came by once a year to collect their rent. The serfs got to keep the remainder. If they had bad luck or didn't work hard, they starved. If they had good luck or worked hard, they ended up living in luxury. The hard working and/or the lucky lived to reproduce. The unlucky and/or the lazy died. There was absolutely no community to fall back on. Over the generations they learned to be tough and insensitive for their own survival. They have been conditioned for centuries to be productive, lucky, selfish and insensitive. When you ask them to show empathy, they are probably willing to fake it for some political, social or financial benefit. If you want them to feel empathy then you are pretty much out of luck. Lip service isn't empathy. I'm sure you can get some white people to cower down and say uncle to avoid the harsh punishment of being called a racist. That doesn't mean they are sincere. It just means that they are typical selfish white people that feel uncomfortable with being labeled a racist. You are really asking too much of them when you ask them to be empathetic. Cut them some slack. This is who they are as a people. They are lucky, hard working, successful, productive, selfish and insensitive. You need to lower your expectations of white people or you are setting yourself up to be disappointed. White people are different. They don't think the same way. Their cruel heritage has molded them into who they are. Just as the cruel heritage of others has molded them into who they are. Cut white people some slack. They have something to offer as well. White people aren’t bad. They are just different.

Who is this really...Obama? Al Sharpton? Louis Farrakhan? Black Lives Matter? One thing's for sure, you sure as hell aren't white.

My race is irrelevant to the discussion. Europeans have a different history than Africans. The cultural differences of white people is fairly obvious and consistent with modern America. American whites have a mindset that is similar to European traditions.

Can you point out my incorrect assessment of white cultural history?

So, you are implying that all white people are alike?

Before you start the usual, this person is white.

 

[Paul Essien]

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

Name one thing that black people — as a group — have stopped white people — as a group from doing that they had a RIGHT to do ?

For example, denying them the right to work, own a home, live in a certain area, get a just trial, an education, or use any public facility.

And I’m not talking about people “harming” people. Yeah sure, a black person can come up to a white person and bash their skull with a rock because he doesn’t like white people but that is NOT racism, that is an INDIVIDUAL acting as an INDIVIDUAL and there is no SYSTEM in place that will support his right to harm you.

However, white policeman can murder black people and get away with it because there is a SYSTEM in place that allows them to do it. (the courts, the police, the judge, the prison SYSTEMS).

So, let’s stop playing word games.

White supremacy is Racism. Racism is White Supremacy.

White people are the ONLY people on the planet who have devised a SYSTEM to mistreat people based on skin color alone. This SYSTEM embraces EVERY aspect of human existence — education, economic, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war.

That is why black and non-white people CANNOT BE RACIST. We do not have a SYSTEM — the power or the institutions– that allows us to mistreat people based on colour.

And to be honest. I don't think black people have the heart to practice racism to whites.

If we had a black bank, we could never red-line white areas, the same way white banks red-line black areas,
If we had a black company, we could never rip white CV's and resumes the same way white companies rip up black CV's and resumes.
If we had a black hospital, we would not use white people as guinea pigs in black hospitals, the same way whites use blacks as guinea pis in there hospitals.
If we were in charge of the water supply, we could never poison the water in water supply in white areas, the same way white people poison the water supply in black areas

Honestly when I look at white people and their history sometimes I think we are dealing with another species.

 

[Correll]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority....

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And this is the type of ignorant ass false equivalence that destroy any attempt to erase racism.

Who has more authority, the guy in that idiots picture or:

Paul claimed that blacks can't be racist because they are never in a position of power, or "authority".

My example points out that that is utterly incorrect.

As, I made no counter claim that whites can't be racist because they are never in positions of power or "Authority" your post his completely moot.


My refutation of Paul's claim stands. Blacks are often in positions to be racist towards whites, as demonstrated by my example.


I can give more examples if requested.

No you can't. But what you will do is post up a picture then claim it's racism. For example what happens if in that picture the woman was his girlfriend? Or maybe he's hitting her because she made a racial slur. You don't know what happened and you post up a random picture of a black guy hitting a white person, claim he is in authority and is expressing racism. But one thing you will not be able to do is post up any law or policy made by blacks that deny whites rights or opportunities. You can try your little false race pimped argument about affirmative action all you want, but a white man is the one who created and signed that executive order. I've been kicking you guys ass all over USMB son. You guys have consistently lost which is why you call me a racist.

1. The image was posted to show an example of a black in a position to express discrimination, not to claim that that particular black person was attacking for a racial reason. Interracial crime stats shows that that happens a lot.


2. Your attempt to change the discussion to specific LAWS passed by BLACKS to prove discrimination is the Logical Fallacy of Moving the Goal Post. THus your post is illogical, debunked and invalid, and my point stands.

 

[ptbw forever]

I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist

OK. This is the main point. So racism should not exist. Right ? And what is your definition of racism ? Because often when black and white people talk about racism. They are not talking about the same thing.

Because black people don't understand what it is anymore.

 

[ptbw forever]

By all means explain to us the "present form of racism" practised by whites. Which by the way is a racist statement. I love these generalized statements with nothing to back it up. And could you point out the "excuses" posted?

No, that was not racist. You don't get to make up what racism is. OK? We have proven racism in the criminal justice system The educational system, hiring and employment, in fact there is a name for the current form of white covert racism-SYSTEMIC RACISM.

You want me to show you the excuses? Start with the the OP then read every post here by someone white besides delores and if sealybobo has posted, then figure it out.

It most certainly is a racist statement, decrying someone strictly based on the color of their skin IS racist. I didn't make up the definition that IS the definition.

You have proven nothing. Blacks go to jail at the same rate that they commit crimes, Period. Sentencing disparities have been disproven time and time again. In addition, you do realize that felonies are under prosecuted in the black community?

In the educational system? How so? How is it that some dirt poor kid can come here from China, and excel in the same inner city schools that black kids attend? Is it racism or is it that the chinese kid comes from a two parent household, whose parents and culture demand he work hard? That's as opposed to many black kids who are bullied and even physically assaulted for acting "too white" if they do the same. I've heard that from everyone from Neil Degrasse Tyson to Thomas Sowell to the son of one of my employees.

Hiring and employment? Again historically true, today nonsense. I'm in business and I and many of my compatriots are desperate to find good help and couldn't care less what the color of their skin is. I seldom hire black men. do you know why? They don't apply. The last time I hired was 6 months ago of 20 or so people that applied there were exactly 0 black men that applied. And this is in area that is at least half black. On top of that not working for an education isn't going to open many doors.

You don't get to make up what racism is. What I said was true, you whites here are making excuses for yourselves going back 500 years. You are the one making racist statement because you are making you comments based on false hoods. top of t hat you are referring to all blacks, I was referring to whites posting here. So you don't get to makeup what racism is because that is just exactly what you did. .I've run businesses. So here is your challenge:

Prove when racism ended and its effects were allayed. Show, with data and peer-reviewed studies supporting your argument, when the effects of the hundreds of years of anti-Black racism from chattel slavery through Old Jim Crow leveled off. Show when the wealth expropriated during that oppression was repaid to those it was expropriated from and through. And remember, after you’ve addressed the end of anti-Black racism you’ll still have to explain when anti-Latinx, anti-Asian, anti-Arab, and anti-Native racism came to an end as well.

By all means explain to us the "present form of racism" practised by whites. Which by the way is a racist statement. I love these generalized statements with nothing to back it up. And could you point out the "excuses" posted?

No, that was not racist. You don't get to make up what racism is. OK? We have proven racism in the criminal justice system The educational system, hiring and employment, in fact there is a name for the current form of white covert racism-SYSTEMIC RACISM.

You want me to show you the excuses? Start with the the OP then read every post here by someone white besides delores and if sealybobo has posted, then figure it out.

after you’ve addressed the end of anti-Black racism you’ll still have to explain when anti-Latinx, anti-Asian, anti-Arab, and anti-Native racism came to an end as well.

.

Same goes for anti-Polish, anti-Italian, anti-Hillbilly, anti-Jewish, anti-German, and anti-French prejudices in the U.S

No, because we are talking about racism, not prejudice and all these people are white.

You apparently don't know what "prejudice" is either....

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

There were no laws put into place in the post Civil War North to particularly hold back Blacks, or White Catholics, or Jews.

There was however Liberty to deny jobs, or housing to such groups

Which did in fact happen to all those groups.

But, now, laws have been set in place to support any group which is denied housing, or jobs.

Furthermore there's Affirmative Action to prop up minorities, but Polish men at least can't take advantage of that

Outright discriminatory laws have been changed, thanks to people fighting for their rights. But people's thoughts and attitudes often remain the same and the bad vibes that go out create friction.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

I totally agree. I believe that people of any color can have prejudices and preferences and call people names and even hate and despise them. That in itself does not make them racist. I agree that racism is systemic, not individual.

In the book "The Priesthood of all Believers" James Luther Adams refers to the "principality of pigment." He states that the more this principality favors the people of one pigment, the more it engenders resentment and resistance at the hands of the people of other pigments.

I believe we all know which pigment has been historically treated as the favored one.

Nah sorry, I don't get the distinction. No matter how you try to justify it, hate is hate. You can mince words all you like but if you hate someone that you have never even met as a person or on an individual basis and are simply judging them strictly by their race or skin color, then you by definition are a racist.

Here's the distinction: anger is defined as a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure or hostility. Hatred is defined as intense dislike or ill will. I can be angry at someone and not hate them. I can be angry at someone I like and have no ill will against them. They are not the same.

When someone writes something we don't like, we can easily say they are full of hate, but it may be a misinterpretation coming from something we already have in our own mind.

Spoken like a true liberal who believes in the law of double standards above all else. Personally I'm sick of that whining mentality and don't give a rat's ass about those who just want to sit around living on entitlement programs getting high all day feeling sorry for themselves while blaming everyone else for their poor lifestyles basically kicking that old worn out can of excuses down the road to justify their laziness. This while others in the black community ignore that defeatist attitude and have their noses to the grind stone getting an education so they will one day be successful and move up in the world. Most people, even whites weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and therefore have to do the same...so you have two choices, you can sit around crying expecting to be coddled or you can pick your ass up and hit the books. I mean everyone can get school grants these days so there really is no excuse anymore.

Apparently you are tired of being white then. I have a masters degree in sociology bitch. I have 32 years of work in my field of study. Shut the fuck up.

If that were true you would not write like a moron and would be able to express your opinion without the race baiting nonsense.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

However, white policeman can murder black people and get away with it because there is a SYSTEM in place that allows them to do it. (the courts, the police, the judge, the prison SYSTEMS)..

What about when Black policeman kill Blacks, what is that?

Because a study confirmed Black policeman are more likely to pull the trigger.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

And to be honest. I don't think black people have the heart to practice racism to whites.

But, African Americans in Liberia denied indigenous African people rights.

Mugabe of Zimbabwe denied Whites rights.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Yeah, I stopped here and just judged this post funny.


Here is one black guy that got in a position of Authority over a white person and seems to be using it.

we could never poison the water in water supply in white areas, the same way white people poison the water supply in black areas

So, Whites purposefully poisoned Flint's water supply, really?

 

[Skieler]

It really is unbelievable how some blacks the racist kind, never see their racism but always see it coming from white people. A black kid reportedly was told he was racist by another in school so he went home and told his dad who said there's no such thing as black racism .... only white people are racist...LOL.

I mean you can be in denial all you like but the truth is racism comes in ALL colors. If you stereotype a certain race and associate their skin color with detrimental remarks basically lumping them all together, then you are a RACIST.

When some1 says "black people can be racist"

What they are really talking about is "name calling"

That's it.

Black people can't be racist

A black person in an authority position can discriminate against a white person but this rarely happens because

A) Such persons are rare relative to whites in authority.

B) In virtually all cases, there are authorities above those black people who are white, and who can slap that black person down and wouldn't stand for such actions.

C) Even in cases where a black person was on top a power structure (as with President Obama), he was not free to do anything to oppress white people (even if he wanted to) given his need to attract white support in order to win election or pass any of his policy agenda.

There are no institutional structures in the U.S or in Europe in which black people exercise final authority : not in the school systems, labour market, justice system, housing markets, financial markets, or media.

So the ability of black folks to oppress white people does not exist.

Questions ?

“What about in majority non white countries where they have power. They could practice racism to whites ?”

This ignores that white supremacy is a global thing.

So racism to whites even in places like Japan, India, Nigeria and Ghana is limited by the reality of global economics and the desire for good relations with the West

“But let’s say a black person wanted to commit a violent act towards whites and said he did so because he hated whites, surely that is racism”

Not really.

Because that’s ACT 1

I could slap a Tiger in the face….but that would be ACT 1

ACT 2 would mean the tiger ripping my face of. So the thought of ACT 2 deters me from doing ACT 1

Black people are well aware of the harsher penalties that come with doing any shit to a white person. So the racism of violence is not really racism at all. After all, to exercise this racism, one has to break the law and subject themselves to legal sanction.

What use is racial violence to whites when you’re going to spend the rest of your days rotting in Shawshank ?

Racism is more potent when it can be used without having to break the law. So discrimination in lending, though illegal is not going to result in the perp going to jail; so too with employment discrimination or racial profiling.

Take this guy

He hates white people and thinks whites babies should be killed.

Yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He’s in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not racism.

Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that wholesale to whites, but there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them regularly.

Just as we can't imagine a black man writing a book the white equivalent of The Bell Curve claiming white people are stupid being published, being reviewed respectfully by mainstream media, or becoming a best-seller.

So when people talk about white people experiencing racism, what they are talking about is name-calling.

That’s it.

And even that’s limited because white people have created a system where they live as far away from black people as possible and they don’t deal with black people at work, because the system has shut that down too.

And white people have a system that protects them in case they get called too many names and if that black person dares get physical then white people have the system of white supremacy that will protect them and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Even if a black person threatens to call physical harm to white person. White people have the system of white supremacy to protect them. Even if a white person thinks the black person is threatening them then white people have the system of white supremacy to protect them.

Michael Dunn in Florida thought he saw Jordan Davis with a gun. He shot him, killed him and they could not convict this guy a murderer.

Even if that black person does not exist, the system of white supremacy will believe the white person. The Susan Smith case in the USA. This woman killed her kids and did the the old "A black man did it" they were rounding blk men up for weeks. White people do this all the time.

There is no such thing as systematic black racism

You are one racist SICK puppy.

He's no racist. You just think you can holler racist at every black person who talks about white racism.

LOL guessing the guy in the street advocating killing white babies isn't either huh? Do you racists even know the meaning of double standard? I mean just because you have so much hatred built up inside doesn't mean you shouldn't take a close look at yourself in the mirror once in a while. Although I realize it doesn't fit your narrative, racism can't be fixed unless everyone is willing to look at themselves objectively and see the part they play in it as well. All you're doing is creating more division. In other words you're not part of the solution...you're part of the problem.

Yeah, I know the meaning of double standard. It means a bunch of whites who do nothing but get into forums making racist comments, touting racist stereotypes and falsehoods about blacks calling bacs who speak to the truth of what you do racists. We aren't t he ones have the problem looking in the mirror idiot. We all can post pictures.

In 2015 according t the UCR whites made up 66 percent of all arrests for crimes against families. That includes domestic violence. Look in the mirror at yourselves first.

I'm sorry ...did i say white, brown, pink, purple men don't beat on women? I even tried to scroll back to find my post to see if it could have been construed that way. I just remember someone making an extremely ludicrous statement that the white girl could have been his girlfriend or she may have made some racial slur...I mean WTF does that mean exactly? It was okay for that guy who is twice her size to beat on her because he chose not to observe the "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" rule?

 

[Paul Essien]

So, Whites purposefully poisoned Flint's water supply, really?

That's racism 101 for a white person. White people do stuff like that all the time.