Understand The Danger We Are In

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If you do not read a newspaper, or turn on the news.... you are uninformed.
If you do.... you are misinformed.


Welcome to the new Un-United States of Corporate America.

We all serve... which side are you?

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The billionaires are getting no real opposition from the fence sitters who claim to hate both parties

They should pick a side and work to make it better
Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
 

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If you do not read a newspaper, or turn on the news.... you are uninformed.
If you do.... you are misinformed.


Welcome to the new Un-United States of Corporate America.

We all serve... which side are you?

View attachment 284432
The billionaires are getting no real opposition from the fence sitters who claim to hate both parties

They should pick a side and work to make it better
Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
No.
Today people have gone Full Retard.
TDS is a real condition. 100%.

You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.
 

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We have a "news" media that blatantly lies to us! Not a lie here and there about little things...but on a minute by minute basis about things of global importance!

For example, in the last week the media has been telling us that we are moving very close to the impeachment of the president of the united states. It could happen at any time now.

The truth is we are no closer to impeachment than we were a year ago...2 years ago. There has not even been a vote to formally INVESTIGATE for impeachment, or draw up articles of impeachment...nothing!

This is dangerous folks! This is the stuff of nazi germany!
The liberal media and the democrats in congress will say anything to hurt trump and deny trump voters the fruits of their victory
Can't you just vote Republican and win the day for "your" side?
Can't you just vote Republican and win the day for "your" side?

Thats how it used to work

but the new Liberal democrat socialist globalist leftist motto is

“We might lose the election on Nov 3, but we’ll win the dirty tricks legal battle after the election”
So you're saying your party just can't git-r-done fer ya? Gee, perhaps you're being pimped son. Those "other" folks claim the same thing and it would appear to me that all those in authority have to do is wind you "both" up, point you at each other, and continue to extract societal wealth whilst you all sneer at each other. Your "two" parties appear to work in tandem representing the donor class to society's overall misfortune.
So you're saying your party just can't git-r-done fer ya? Gee, perhaps you're being pimped son. Those "other" folks claim the same thing and it would appear to me that all those in authority have to do is wind you "both" up, point you at each other, and continue to extract societal wealth whilst you all sneer at each other. Your "two" parties appear to work in tandem representing the donor class to society's overall misfortune.
I guess so

Trying to get corrupt swamp rats in washington to do the right thing can be a frustrating experience

Should I quit trying to improve the situation and become a political dropout like you?

We seem to have a lot of those sitting on the fence on forums like this
If you demand so little of your elected officials that you consistently vote for "your side", when all "your side" can do is tell you they would get-r-done for you, but that damn "other" side just wont go for it, even when "your side" has the white house and both houses?

You're on the just-can't-get-it-done-but-we'll-still-use-it-to-wind-ya-up status quo fence.

Sure, just keep voting for "your side" and make things better by playing by the rules in a system we all know is corrupt and rigged by concentrated wealth. To question gets in the way of "making things better".
 

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If you do not read a newspaper, or turn on the news.... you are uninformed.
If you do.... you are misinformed.


Welcome to the new Un-United States of Corporate America.

We all serve... which side are you?

View attachment 284432
The billionaires are getting no real opposition from the fence sitters who claim to hate both parties

They should pick a side and work to make it better
Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
No.
Today people have gone Full Retard.
TDS is a real condition. 100%.

You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.
Two teams who at the substantial people level of our ruling aristocracy work in tandem to thwart the will of the unsubstantial people.
 

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If you do not read a newspaper, or turn on the news.... you are uninformed.
If you do.... you are misinformed.


Welcome to the new Un-United States of Corporate America.

We all serve... which side are you?

View attachment 284432
The billionaires are getting no real opposition from the fence sitters who claim to hate both parties

They should pick a side and work to make it better
Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
No.
Today people have gone Full Retard.
TDS is a real condition. 100%.

You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.
You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.


Ok. What is your solution?
 

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The liberal media and the democrats in congress will say anything to hurt trump and deny trump voters the fruits of their victory
Can't you just vote Republican and win the day for "your" side?
Can't you just vote Republican and win the day for "your" side?

Thats how it used to work

but the new Liberal democrat socialist globalist leftist motto is

“We might lose the election on Nov 3, but we’ll win the dirty tricks legal battle after the election”
So you're saying your party just can't git-r-done fer ya? Gee, perhaps you're being pimped son. Those "other" folks claim the same thing and it would appear to me that all those in authority have to do is wind you "both" up, point you at each other, and continue to extract societal wealth whilst you all sneer at each other. Your "two" parties appear to work in tandem representing the donor class to society's overall misfortune.
So you're saying your party just can't git-r-done fer ya? Gee, perhaps you're being pimped son. Those "other" folks claim the same thing and it would appear to me that all those in authority have to do is wind you "both" up, point you at each other, and continue to extract societal wealth whilst you all sneer at each other. Your "two" parties appear to work in tandem representing the donor class to society's overall misfortune.
I guess so

Trying to get corrupt swamp rats in washington to do the right thing can be a frustrating experience

Should I quit trying to improve the situation and become a political dropout like you?

We seem to have a lot of those sitting on the fence on forums like this
If you demand so little of your elected officials that you consistently vote for "your side", when all "your side" can do is tell you they would get-r-done for you, but that damn "other" side just wont go for it, even when "your side" has the white house and both houses?

You're on the just-can't-get-it-done-but-we'll-still-use-it-to-wind-ya-up status quo fence.

Sure, just keep voting for "your side" and make things better by playing by the rules in a system we all know is corrupt and rigged by concentrated wealth. To question gets in the way of "making things better".
Sure, just keep voting for "your side" and make things better by playing by the rules in a system we all know is corrupt and rigged by concentrated wealth. To question gets in the way of "making things better".

You can try to rationalize your lack of civic responsibility and inability to get involved to yourself but it does not convince me
 

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If you do not read a newspaper, or turn on the news.... you are uninformed.
If you do.... you are misinformed.


Welcome to the new Un-United States of Corporate America.

We all serve... which side are you?

View attachment 284432
The billionaires are getting no real opposition from the fence sitters who claim to hate both parties

They should pick a side and work to make it better
Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
No.
Today people have gone Full Retard.
TDS is a real condition. 100%.

You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.
Two teams who at the substantial people level of our ruling aristocracy work in tandem to thwart the will of the unsubstantial people.
Two teams who at the substantial people level of our ruling aristocracy work in tandem to thwart the will of the unsubstantial people.

You are almost correct this time

But the Washington establishment is really just one team led by the Deep State

Trump voters upset the delicate balance among the swamp rats by getting an outsider elected president

But fence sitters are to dense to realize the rare opportunity that exists to make real change
 

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Can't you just vote Republican and win the day for "your" side?
Can't you just vote Republican and win the day for "your" side?

Thats how it used to work

but the new Liberal democrat socialist globalist leftist motto is

“We might lose the election on Nov 3, but we’ll win the dirty tricks legal battle after the election”
So you're saying your party just can't git-r-done fer ya? Gee, perhaps you're being pimped son. Those "other" folks claim the same thing and it would appear to me that all those in authority have to do is wind you "both" up, point you at each other, and continue to extract societal wealth whilst you all sneer at each other. Your "two" parties appear to work in tandem representing the donor class to society's overall misfortune.
So you're saying your party just can't git-r-done fer ya? Gee, perhaps you're being pimped son. Those "other" folks claim the same thing and it would appear to me that all those in authority have to do is wind you "both" up, point you at each other, and continue to extract societal wealth whilst you all sneer at each other. Your "two" parties appear to work in tandem representing the donor class to society's overall misfortune.
I guess so

Trying to get corrupt swamp rats in washington to do the right thing can be a frustrating experience

Should I quit trying to improve the situation and become a political dropout like you?

We seem to have a lot of those sitting on the fence on forums like this
If you demand so little of your elected officials that you consistently vote for "your side", when all "your side" can do is tell you they would get-r-done for you, but that damn "other" side just wont go for it, even when "your side" has the white house and both houses?

You're on the just-can't-get-it-done-but-we'll-still-use-it-to-wind-ya-up status quo fence.

Sure, just keep voting for "your side" and make things better by playing by the rules in a system we all know is corrupt and rigged by concentrated wealth. To question gets in the way of "making things better".
Sure, just keep voting for "your side" and make things better by playing by the rules in a system we all know is corrupt and rigged by concentrated wealth. To question gets in the way of "making things better".

You can try to rationalize your lack of civic responsibility and inability to get involved to yourself but it does not convince me
I have no desire whatsoever to convince a hominid of your caliber of anything, but my civic responsibility compels me to point out the illusion and to withhold participation and cooperation with an utterly corrupted patently dishonest system. You are free to continue to rationalize what we all know and see. I'll remind you that your donor class always has their bases covered "either" way.
 

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The billionaires are getting no real opposition from the fence sitters who claim to hate both parties

They should pick a side and work to make it better
Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
No.
Today people have gone Full Retard.
TDS is a real condition. 100%.

You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.
Two teams who at the substantial people level of our ruling aristocracy work in tandem to thwart the will of the unsubstantial people.
Two teams who at the substantial people level of our ruling aristocracy work in tandem to thwart the will of the unsubstantial people.

You are almost correct this time

But the Washington establishment is really just one team led by the Deep State

Trump voters upset the delicate balance among the swamp rats by getting an outsider elected president

But fence sitters are to dense to realize the rare opportunity that exists to make real change
Trump voters upset nothing but themselves, just like Hillary voters, there is no real change coming from begging your concentrated wealth aristocracy for incrementalism within the confines of what the system allows. While you were voting, concentrated wealth was extracting, concentrating and redistributing societal wealth regardless of party affiliations. "Neither" of your parties did anything but aid, assist and abet. Americans are understandably angry, but Don is no answer and neither would Hillary have been. But yahoos picked one or the other anyway. Still no real change, just like with Obama. Odd ain't it, we're soooooooooooooooooo exceptional, but every election cycle brings yet another unfulfilled sales pitch of "change".

Americans are by and large an utterly cucked population indoctrinated to sign off on evil so long as it is the lessor of 2 evils.

Your "deep state" is nothing more than concentrated wealth and authoritarianism, and Don is nothing but another symptom of a pathological dysfunctional society you support and refuse to call out.

Responsibility? No, that's not responsibility at all, never has been.
 

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If you do not read a newspaper, or turn on the news.... you are uninformed.
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Welcome to the new Un-United States of Corporate America.

We all serve... which side are you?

View attachment 284432
The billionaires are getting no real opposition from the fence sitters who claim to hate both parties

They should pick a side and work to make it better
Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
No.
Today people have gone Full Retard.
TDS is a real condition. 100%.

You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.
You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.


Ok. What is your solution?
Solution is it is going to take something very big to (literally) drag Americans back together.

Our biggest enemy is one that few talk about.
Corporatism. We are absolutely plagued by corporatist on BOTH sides of the aisle. And, like my little cartoon shows, they are very much interested in dividing the nation in two and keep fighting each other than to pause a moment and realized - WE ARE ALL GETTING FUCKED. And BOTH sides are equally hard at work to keep it this way.
 

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The billionaires are getting no real opposition from the fence sitters who claim to hate both parties

They should pick a side and work to make it better
Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
No.
Today people have gone Full Retard.
TDS is a real condition. 100%.

You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.
You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.


Ok. What is your solution?
Solution is it is going to take something very big to (literally) drag Americans back together.

Our biggest enemy is one that few talk about.
Corporatism. We are absolutely plagued by corporatist on BOTH sides of the aisle. And, like my little cartoon shows, they are very much interested in dividing the nation in two and keep fighting each other than to pause a moment and realized - WE ARE ALL GETTING FUCKED. And BOTH sides are equally hard at work to keep it this way.
Solution is it is going to take something very big to (literally) drag Americans back together.

It sounds like you are waiting for the asteroid to hit

I believe in incremental change where the hoards of complainers sitting on the fence decide to join the rest of us and make the necessary changes
 

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Hate?
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.
The only thing I "hate" is people who will only believe something if is good for their side...and then declared "ALL LIES!!!"...if it doesn't agree.
So...no... I will not join a side as long as both sides are wrong.
That, by definition, is a sheep.

Dont hold your breath waiting for the perfect water temperature before getting your feet wet

Because you will never see it

But thats the point for most fence sitters

As long as the tweeners dont pick a side they can always attack without ever having to defend
No.
Today people have gone Full Retard.
TDS is a real condition. 100%.

You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.
You do realize that Republicans cannot effect change with Democrat leaders, just the same as Democrats cannot effect change with Republican leaders. Both sides ONLY vote for each side. So the result IS THE SAME PEOPLE KEEP GETTING INTO OFFICE no matter how bad they are!
THAT is the result of thinking of America as TWO TEAMS.


Ok. What is your solution?
Solution is it is going to take something very big to (literally) drag Americans back together.

Our biggest enemy is one that few talk about.
Corporatism. We are absolutely plagued by corporatist on BOTH sides of the aisle. And, like my little cartoon shows, they are very much interested in dividing the nation in two and keep fighting each other than to pause a moment and realized - WE ARE ALL GETTING FUCKED. And BOTH sides are equally hard at work to keep it this way.
Solution is it is going to take something very big to (literally) drag Americans back together.

It sounds like you are waiting for the asteroid to hit

I believe in incremental change where the hoards of complainers sitting on the fence decide to join the rest of us and make the necessary changes
I honestly do not know entirely what is the answer.... main problems..

1) The Millennial generation and the newest generation coming up now, GenZ are without a doubt the most misinformed generation in our history. And it was done purposefully.
2) Conservatives and liberals have co-existed since the beginning sharing the same basic principles and goals as well as love for America. But now we have a third group, and they are growing every day. Leftist. Leftist do not share our goals. They most certainly do not share our principles and have absolutely ZERO love for America.
3) Corporatism. I am as pro business as they come, and that is precisely why I hate and intimately know the evils of it. Corporations control EVERYTHING now. Including all of the mechanisms that control what we think. - AND NO ONE EVEN TALKS ABOUT THIS.
 

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